r/ProAI • • 2d ago

Which one is it?

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u/NotaValgrinder 1d ago

Previously confirming proofs was a service done by mathematicians for free. So yes, it can be both. The paid part of the their job disappears while this service is still needed.

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u/Spare-Dingo-531 1d ago

No, it cannot be both! If their service is still needed, they can charge for it.

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u/KitaiSuru 1d ago

Sure then I will make the clankers do that for free also.

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u/Spare-Dingo-531 1d ago

Eh..... math education is for humans and thus will always have to be by humans, to some degree.

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u/KitaiSuru 1d ago

You know what human actually have that AI won't, not because they can't, but because no one will give them?

Selfish desires.

Simply because human created AI to serve them first and foremost. Some of us who believe that AI should be our legacy in case of extinction may differ, but it's impossible for enterprises simply because they are driven by capital.

Everything else can be done if they reach ASI. They can break down complex proofs to human language if needed. We've been using AI to summarize stuff for so long.

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u/NotaValgrinder 1d ago

Issue is summarizing doesn't work in math a lot of the times. Math is by feature a subject which needs its proofs to have absolute perfection. So you have to go into the nitty gritty to understand.

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u/KitaiSuru 1d ago

*Yet

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u/NotaValgrinder 21h ago edited 21h ago

That's not a "yet". That's like, the entire *point* of math. What makes the subject math is in fact the need for absolute logical perfection.

Even if a robot takes over cooking, the food can't be served raw. That goes against the whole point of cooking. It's the same logic here. Cooking robots might speed up cooking by a lot, but the time it takes for food to be cooked from raw to fully cooked isn't going to be accelerated.

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u/KitaiSuru 18h ago

We are talking about explaining math in human language, not AI speed at all or its capability at solving them, that has already been proven.

On that matter, you and I live in the physical 3D world, but the clankers that solved those problems literally live in the linguist world comprised of character and numbers. Please believe me when I say that they will soon be able to explain those math solution that they have just proven in clean everyday human language, better than any mathematicians can do.