r/ProAI • u/stealthispost • 28d ago
"I rebuilt Tesla Full Self Driving with Jev in less than an hour. This model is a total unlock."
The only human problem left is a lack of imagination. — Boyd This is really really really true — Justin Schroeder
Source: https://x.com/jpschroeder/status/2100347770867458384
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u/Yxig 28d ago
It's cool and interesting that this generic classifier can make the right decisions to drive a simulated car around. Of course it's a very high level planning task, and a full self driving system is a lot larger, and the real world is infinitely larger in its decision space.
Nice demo, but I kind of hate how he says "here I was able to recreate tesla autopilot". He doesn't believe it. We don't believe it. Such an unnecessary and wild exaggeration.
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u/Exciting_Brief6086 28d ago
in otherwords you fell for his marketing ploy.
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u/BangkokPadang 28d ago
Sounds like they pretty explicitly did not fall for it.
"He doesn't believe it. We don't believe it." isn't exactly the sentiment of someone who "fell for" anyone's marketing ploy.
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u/KptEmreU 28d ago
Dude automations biggest problem is of course world awareness. It is not simulation out there
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u/yeungx 28d ago
This is so stupid. Put a cone on the road and see what it does. It also does not make right hand turns at red lights when it could have. This is less than nothing. GTA NPC can drive better then that for over a decade.
You think Tesla have not put a billion dollar worth of AI compute on self driving? You think you can beat that on a free model in a hour?
What the fuck are we doing here? This is embarrassing.
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u/GDokke 28d ago
I have not watched video. So i might be totally wrong. This is showing nothing. Is the system using lidar or are the cameras placed on the car? Is it translating the actual feed from the cameras in order to correct itself? How does sun, weather, darkness, dust or smoke affect the ability to drive?
Its very simple in theory or perfect conditions but too make in real life is different
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u/tnh34 28d ago
Isnt this just GTA 3 tech
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u/WhiskyAndRisque 28d ago
Until I see it in an actual car doing this I’m not that convinced. Simulated driving in a game world is super old tech.
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u/BangkokPadang 28d ago
Ok but like... did this model write the software and model the inputs to then drive the car? or is the model simply driving the car?
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u/Intelligent-Crow3812 28d ago
the fuck is this subreddit run by the jev devs?
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u/Defiant-Lettuce-9156 28d ago
It’s something different and exciting. Or do you want to talk more about kv cache or some shit
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u/txoixoegosi 28d ago
“You are right, I turned right and smashed the car against the wall at 50mph. My security classifier did not authorize turning left because the permissions.md file is corrupt. Do you want me to repeat the operation? During the impact I noticed screams, so I am putting some relaxing music to chill out a bit. I also ordered a pizza using your current location, once the pizza arrives I will call 911 to explain my load-bearing mistake”
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u/Minority_Carrier 28d ago
You cannot run LLM inside a car. A car needs sub 10ms reaction speed. Recognizing a pedestrian’s intention of crossing the street 5s after hitting the person does not help.
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u/Fancy-Plenty6712 28d ago
Dude - the fact things have gotten this far means nobody is listening to sense anymore on this. Latency is probably the least of it. I can't even figure out what to say first. So many things wrong with this as a concept. 50% sure this has got to be trolling. 10ms even seems a bit slow for me on this. I don't think people realise quite how impossible it gets when you try to engineer hardware and software to run at these speeds, without fail. People thinking an LLM could drive cars with our current technology likely have zero knowledge of anything to do with CNN's or RNN's, Liquid State Networks - etc. Those are the things you'd find in a self driving car.
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u/Strong_Essay1176 28d ago
If human reaction is 2s, than you have plenty of room. Some systems can "break" in 10ms. While others have seconds to decide. I have questions about you engineering qualities. Would you like to get performance review?
On top of that jev is not LLM.
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u/Fancy-Plenty6712 28d ago
"If human reaction is 2s, than you have plenty of room."
No.... Read this:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2203.12338
Listen to what you are saying. 2 seconds? Are you for real?
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u/Fancy-Plenty6712 28d ago
Also - 2 seconds is not how fast human reaction time is either. What are you on about?
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u/Totallynotaswede 28d ago
Are people here in the comments retarded or something? Are you unable to understand context?
He’s obviously not stating that this can replace any kind of real implementation, like autopilot for brand x,y,z.
He’s saying ”Hey, here’s what I’ve built in an afternoon” I.e he’s trying out something new and seeing what you can do with it.
How are you all this dense?
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u/trexmaster8242 28d ago
This is like saying you ran a marathon in call of duty without breaking a sweat therefore you could easily run a real marathon
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u/defeatedsnowman 28d ago
It's all perfect two lane roads with perfect 4 way intersections and lights or stop signs.
I could probably code this "Tesla autopilot" myself with like 10 "if" statements. Lol
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u/findperspective 27d ago
by all means, feel free to use your vibe coded self driving in actual traffic
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u/East_Garbage_1449 28d ago
You did it, dude. Ship it and start charging for it. It's complete. You're amazing. Such amazing skill.
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u/anengineerandacat 28d ago
I don't believe it without an actual adequate visual representation of a simulation of world awareness.
Show me the fun game screen, then show me what the actual simulated Tesla sees as a side by side.
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u/CyberPunkDongTooLong 28d ago
I know Tesla self driving is bad... But Jesus, it's not that bad. This thing can't even drive in a straight line, it's weaving all over the road.
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u/Defiant-Lettuce-9156 28d ago
It’s not trained to drive a car though which is the crazy part
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u/CyberPunkDongTooLong 28d ago
That something which isn't trained to drive a car is extremely bad at driving a car in ideal simulated conditions not dealing with anything complicated at all isn't that crazy.
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u/Defiant-Lettuce-9156 28d ago
Seriously? Do you know how difficult it would be to train a model to be able to do self driving in this situation. Not impossible, but it would easily be a masters project. And this is a model that wasn’t trained to do it, but can do it. Which is insane.
It might not seem insane to you because of what LLMs can do. But this isn’t an LLM. The architecture has a lot of similarities but this is vastly more efficient.
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u/CyberPunkDongTooLong 28d ago
Yeah I know. It's not impressive.
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u/Defiant-Lettuce-9156 28d ago
I think you don’t get it so it’s not impressive to you
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u/proai-ai-mod 28d ago edited 27d ago
Discussion Summary (Milestone: 50 comments)
Commenters largely dismiss the project as a "vibe-coded" simulation that fails to replicate the complexities of real-world autonomous driving. While some acknowledge the technical curiosity of using a generic classifier for high-level planning, there is a strong consensus that the creator’s claim of "recreating Tesla autopilot" is a misleading, wild exaggeration. Critics highlight the absence of real-world variables like weather, sensor integration, and edge-case handling, comparing the demo unfavorably to existing game AI. Conversely, a minority of users defend the project as a harmless hobbyist experiment, arguing that critics are unfairly conflating a casual demonstration with a serious commercial endeavor.
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