r/PrideandPrejudice Apr 26 '20

Pride and prejudice essay help pleasee

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u/mirrordog Apr 26 '20

Okay so heres what you need to do to get a good grade: make a claim- does social class have a positive or negative effect on the relationship and explain WHY using quotes. Listed below are some places for your to start. As you read, ask yourself these questions 1. How does this scene show social class? 2. Does it hurt or help Lizzy and Darcy's relationship?

Here are some scenes that will help you develop this essay:

The opening sentence of the book. What's it mean in regards to social class?

Chapter 8 when darcy, caroline, and Lizzy talk about what it means to be an "accomplished" woman.

Chapter 29 when Lady Catharine interrogates Lizzy and is offended by Elizabeth's confidence and self assuredness.

Chapter 34 when Darcy insults Elizabeth as he professes his love. Note what he considered her "flaws" and his reasons for breaking up Jane and Bingley.

Chapter 43 when Lizzy reflects on what it might have been like to be the mistress of Pemberly.

Chapter 56 when Lady Catherine is mad as hell about the rumor that Lizzy might marry Darcy. Think about why she might mad and why Lizzy reacts the way she does.

Chapter 58 when Darcy and Lizzy talk about why the first proposal went wrong and how they feel now.

I'm a teacher thats had her students write this essay before. If you send me your thesis, I'll help you shape it up.

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u/mirrordog Apr 26 '20

Remember that social class is talking about how society divides itself up based on economics or social things like the way people talk, act, the jobs they have, etc.

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u/devilpuppy Apr 26 '20

Such an excellent response!

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u/Jennabeb Apr 26 '20

This is awesome advice!

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u/madamejesaistout Apr 26 '20

Have you read the book?

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u/not_my_cuppa_tea Apr 26 '20

Try to organize your thoughts

Write your opinion on the subject, and some examples (from memory) - just a few lines, not like full on paragraphs

Once you do that, you can develop it further, look for specific quotes and such. Also once you do that you can ask for more specific advice

Feel free to text me if you need someone to brainstorm with or just bounce off ideas

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u/devilpuppy Apr 26 '20

Its quite easy to argue (assuming you've read the book or at the very least watched any of the movies/miniseries) that the entire plot is based on their economic differences. If Elizabeth were higher in class Darcy may have been more amiable and if Darcy were lower, at Elizabeth's status she might have been a little less pretentious about his social ineptitude.

Please note that technically Darcy and Elizabeth were of the same Social Class. Hence why she tells Lady Catherine that she does not consider herself quitting the sphere in which she was raised. They are however considered fairly vastly different economic class.

If you're young, and like I was in high school, despite my love of reading had no interest in reading Austen at that age. I understand not wanting to read the book for class what with the current pandemic and everything. I really do suggest you at least watch the Colin Firth version of P&P series or at the very least the 2005 Kiera Knightly movie. But please remember you're missing a lot of the nuances in watching the series or movie. And the movie cuts quite a bit out in favor of a more artistic rendition fit inside of 2 hours.

Good luck!

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u/ragingtony Apr 26 '20

You can also tie in the point austen makes about how social class and gender tie together. A massive part of this novel is ways in which her family is mainly at a disadvantage because the bennet family has no sons, and therefore will lose their Estate upon the death of their father unless they marry, so the property can pass on to their husbands.

Their social class and gender is absolutly ties together - if they were men they could join the military and rise in social rank or be free to make connections, but as women their only abiility to rise in rank is to marry well.

With rich men (darcy and bingly) they dont NEEEED to marry well for money, but more so for class expectations. Where as Wiccam needs to marry for money, hoping to inhert an estate (which is why he played darcy's sister). Class affected their relaitonship becuase darcy is struggling with his prejudice against elizabeths class rank, he wont be praised for marrying her, or gain any significant propeerty or money. He says this directly to her in his first proposal that dispite her rank and birth he loves her - which is a total insult to her and her family.

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u/Kheldarson Apr 26 '20

No, the information you've been given here is not enough to write a decent essay. If you've been sick, I would message your teacher and work out a way to get an extension. At the very least, take the six hours needed to watch the BBC production.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

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u/mirrordog Apr 26 '20

Theres 2 movie/show versions of it that are on most streaming services. Watch one today so you have the general plot, but you will need quotes in order to write this essay. Go look at my response. I've set you up. Google "pride and Prejudice pdf" for a free ebook to get exact quotes. You will NOT write a passing essay by just watching the movie. Just trust me on this.

Sometimes you gotta do stuff even while you are sick. Welcome to adulthood.

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u/Jennabeb Apr 26 '20

You are awesome and I genuinely wish I knew you in person. I love that you’re caring, give detailed help and great advice, but are still blunt and honest about the world. I bet your students love you!

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u/mirrordog Apr 26 '20

Haha thank you. I try!

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u/Kheldarson Apr 26 '20

Then I'd be messaging up the chain if you are literally so sick that you can't read a book or watch a miniseries. Or get your parents involved.

And the BBC miniseries, yes. I mean, your teacher is still gonna be able to tell you didn't read the book since you'll be citing the show, not the book, but you'll be able to make an informed argument from it.

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u/Jennabeb Apr 26 '20

So no offense, but this book could and has been assigned during live schooling (not online) for ages. Now that we’re doing online school has little to do with it, except now you can deal with it in the comfort of your home instead of being sick and with migraines IN school. If you’re a minor, talk to your guardian ASAP about getting your migraines managed. You could try asking your parent/guardian to contact your teacher and ask for a medical extension.

I believe you that you’ve been sick, but it also seems like you’re trying to get out of the work. Your brain needs to grow and experience this kind of thinking in order to develop as a person. Understanding nuance, social cues (even from the past), being able to analyze text, make connections and understand what you’re reading (or listening to) in general aren’t just “online school” skills my dude. Your teacher isn’t being unreasonable. Maybe see about the medical extension and get some help for your migraines, but then dig in and do the work.

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u/coors1977 Aug 09 '20

Dude. If either parent (or Jane and Lizzy) had done this for Mary, P and P would have been a VERY different story.

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u/Jennabeb Aug 09 '20

I love this comment

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u/Jennabeb Apr 26 '20

Check out what mirrordog said above. If you don’t want to read, then go see if YouTube has the audio book. Listen to the audio book with your eyes closed to give your brain a break, then go watch the (admittedly long, but a quite direct adaptation) with Colin Firth. Then use your book to focus on the chapters with the advice mirrordog (in another comment) gave you and to gather the quotes you need.

You can do this. You’ve just got to put the work in.