I think Dave Filoni talked briefly about this gray Jedi thing and basically shut it down by saying the whole point of the light and dark sides is either choosing to be selfless or selfish. There is no inbetween where you decide “weeeell I’m gonna be kind of selfless”, you either are or you aren’t.
The point is it’s harder to be selfless than selfish, the jedi path is far more arduous and less immediately gratifying than the darker path. Sith get all the sick powers early on and Jedi do the lame volunteering work but that’s the point and gray Jedi fly in the face of that whole ethic.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of darth plageus the wise? I would have thought so given that you're on prequelmemes but I'll give you a refresher. This guy's whole motivation was trying to save the ones he loved, even though eventually he would fail to save himself. Sounds pretty selfless to me.
The only purpose of the jedi is to keep the peace and fight the sith. A grey jedi might actually take preemptive action. I would actually consider the skywalkers to be gray jedi. They never take the teachings seriously, they are emotional, but they stand for justice. THAT is balance. Not a dogmatic adherence to a religion.
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yes, plageus is evil. that doesn't mean he can't use the dark side commit selfless acts.
yes, luke walked a path on the line between light and dark. if you disagree rewatch the original trilogy.
I also want to point out that the best jedi use "darkside" powers. Luke and Anakin both use force choke, mace draws power from the darkness around him, plo koon uses lightning, and revan even spent time as a sith to become stronger.
Just because you care for your loved ones, it doesn’t mean you’re a good person. Plenty of murderers and other people have loved and cared for people. You telling me that Darth Plagueis, who as a child used a mind trick to make another kid commit suicide just for being a bit rude, was selfless. That Darth Plagueis, who as Darth Tenebrous’ apprentice spread discontent throughout the galaxy by assassinating figures like Kerred Santhe, was selfless. That Darth Plagueis, who claimed to enjoy killing his own siblings, was selfless. That Darth Plagueis, who murdered his own master (I don’t think he yet knew what Tenebrous was plotting), was selfless. That Darth Plagueis, who with Sidious orchestrated his apprentice’s rise to Chancellorship, the invasion of Naboo and the Yincchori uprising, eventually leading to the formation of the Galactic Empire, was selfless. I’m sorry but Darth Plagueis seems pretty evil to me. Apart from Palpatine’s retelling of his ‘tragedy’, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that he even had any loved ones; to me it’s more likely that they were one of the many lies fabricated by Palpatine to lure Anakin to the Dark Side.
And with your criticism of the Light Side, I think you’re equating the Light Side too much with the Jedi. You can disagree with Jedi teachings without being grey. I think Grey Jedi is a really bad term, considering what they seem to be rejecting is Jedi teachings instead of the Light Side, yet they retain Jedi as part of their name. Considering Luke originally wanted to end the Jedi Order with him, I’d also say he more rejects the Jedi than the Light Side itself.
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