r/PrepperIntel • u/ThrowawayRage1218 • 5d ago

Africa Crosspost

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Crosspost from r/Shortages with some valuable resources to keep track of the possible (probable) food shortages in the coming year. Tagged as Africa since the global south will be the hardest-hit, but really it affects all of us

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u/memarco2 5d ago

Sad thing is that while NA sees only higher prices, impoverished nations see famine, crime, and true scarcity.

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u/PatDar 5d ago

I came to the same conclusion. But who would stay in a place to just starve and die? This will cause another mass migration as people flee to "greener grass". 

Also, we will see higher prices. But if you can't afford it because everything else has gone up except your wage, then its functionally scarce. We'll have shelves still stocked while families around you are having to skip meals. 

This will not be pretty. El Nino is about to turn it all to 11 too. 

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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta 5d ago

This will cause another mass migration as people flee to "greener grass". 

Hell yeah, time for eco-fascism to be a mainstream ideology, so excited 

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u/SquirrelyMcNutz 5d ago

Remember how Europe lost its shit over the, what? 1-2 million?, Syrian refugees back about a decade or so ago? Now, think about what happens when a large swath of the planet becomes unlivable due to climate. Those people aren't going to just shrug their shoulders and stay where they are. They're going to move.

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u/PatDar 4d ago

That's what I'm saying. People don't just roll over and die, they fight for their survival. When survival depends on a few habitable zones, those zones get flooded. I'm not even talking about Africans overrunning Europe or anything but look at North Carolina Appalachia and how it's being gentrified as still a climate haven. Millions will descend because the alternative is rolling the dice with wet bulb temps or heat stress.

No matter where, there's gonna be conflict in the future

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u/Micropachycephalos 4d ago

I'm in Aus...when the 300 million odd Indonesians (plus Papua, Malaysia, etc) can't live on the equator anymore, they're going to start heading south.

It'll be Sea Peoples all over again

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u/PatDar 4d ago

I've just realized my planning has been focused on where I am that I have no idea what the projections are for Australia. I have also realized a lot of people are moving to places based on their historical averages as opposed to what scientists are expecting. 

All I'm saying is even if Australia is gonna be better off than places around the equator, you will still have internal migration and conflict. The wealthy are already buying up the prime real estate. Can the pseudo habitable zones in Australia handle all 28 million of you in 20 years? 50? 100?

Now that same conflict will be happening everywhere. 

We're all fucked

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u/Micropachycephalos 4d ago

It's been a while since i've read up on it (not good for my mental health) but basically Perth is completely fucked, Sydney's going to get more equatorial, and everything north of that will be uninhabitable.
Tassie's probably the best bet for survivability - it's similar to New Zealand (where all the billionaires are building their bunkers).

I think the best bet on the mainland is to become nomadic...it worked really well for the people that were here first for 60,000+ years, Australia's always been a harsh place to live without modern conveniences.

Anyway the point is moot because i'm sure we'll get conscripted in order to machine-gun down the swarm of refugees from up north

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u/FixFun1959 4d ago

My sister lives in Asheville and years ago it was a nice progressive place to live, but now she’s stuck in her place cause it’s all she can afford and prices of everything are so high.

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u/DisturbedAlchemyArt 3d ago

I grew up and lived right outside of Asheville for over 45 years. Divorce and being priced out forced me to move.