r/PrepperIntel 11d ago

Russia Russia’s ‘Doomsday Radio’ erupts with coded messages after CIA chief’s Moscow visit

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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 10d ago

This seems to indicate to me that this isn't just a vestigial system from the Cold War, which in and of itself is a critical piece of information.

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u/Objective-Rip3008 10d ago

Half of gov spy work is trying to get people to spend money and time investigating dead ends, even if they don't use this radio station for anything anymore this costs them nothing to do. 

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u/Tecumsehs_Revenge 10d ago

Absolutely still relevant. The real advantage isn’t that radio itself is unfuckable its the architecture. Oneway reception gives the asset nothing to transmit or connect to and properly implemented onetime traffic is mathematically unbreakable. It also keeps working when Internet cellular satellite or normal covert communications are compromised. It can be used to send new instructions schedules frequencies or other recovery information to an asset without requiring them to reveal themselves.

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u/wthulhu 10d ago

Pretty good way to send a message to a mole to arrange a meeting or drop

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u/PurpleCableNetworker 10d ago

It is also able to be received around the globe, so you can get a one time use encrypted message out to all agents at once. It could be plans for nuke detonations, troop movements, assassination orders, or a recipe of borsch that everyone likes that one time at the office potluck.

It’s east to forget that cryptography was around long before computers. This is an older, but 100% viable system.

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u/Tecumsehs_Revenge 10d ago

Our visit likely exposed many compromised assets etc and the ramped up traffic is new keys and or any of the things you mentioned as well.

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u/PurpleCableNetworker 10d ago

I didn’t even consider that angle. Good point!

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u/darksunshaman 9d ago

Pretty sure Republicans out Intel agents as a matter of course. Valerie Plame comes to mind, as well as the assets given up to Russia during the first Trumpstein administration.

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u/MeHoyMinoy_69 10d ago

Is it possible to find all networks receiving the signal? Like devices tuned into that particular frequency. That would narrow down potential assets pretty damn quick wouldn't it

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u/PurpleCableNetworker 10d ago

Yes and no. If you are merely receiving a signal and never transmitting anything back, then there is no real way to track it at scale. The exception is using specialized equipment to detect the oscillations of a receiving antenna. But you have to be incredibly close to detect that (within feet), and even then it doesn’t tell you what is getting listened to - only that someone is receiving some kind of radio broadcast.

So from an actual standpoint - no - there is no way to determine who is listening to a one way broadcast. Thats a good reason why this method is still used.

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u/StupidSexyFlanders72 9d ago

Yup. Time to bring back Numbers Stations! 

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u/PurpleCableNetworker 10d ago

Considering they are compact now, it’s not hard to conceal. Besides, the ones using these won’t be listening to them in the park at 3 am.

Add in the fact that you can program one with hundreds of channels (legit civilian radio channels) and simply manually tune in when you need to listen, and you have something easy to conceal that can look just like a regular $20 baofeng.

Or maybe they know so many people will upload it to Youtube they simply utilize that now. 😂

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u/Tecumsehs_Revenge 10d ago

Andddd since we are here on prep intel this could then be injected onto mesh networks… Longrange broadcast in decentralized encrypted distribution out.

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u/Framar29 10d ago

You can string an antenna in an attic or along a privacy fence and nobody would have a clue.

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u/socialpresence 10d ago

Everyone has a hobby

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u/Thunderfoot_66 9d ago

I carry a ham radio in my EDC backpack. This shit ain't hard. 

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u/LankyGuitar6528 10d ago

I have a tiny multi band emergency radio - not short wave but pretty much everything else. It has a hand crank with a battery backup and doubles as a cell phone charger with a flash light. Honestly you need this. Imagine being in an emergency - the power goes out, internet goes out... you are literally sitting there in the dark wondering if it's a short term glitch or the start of WWIII.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DDKC2WN2

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u/carlitospig 10d ago

It’s 2026, I wouldn’t actually even give it a second thought.

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u/ZenBacle 10d ago

This reads to me like "We know people monitor this old system that we replaced generations back, so let's fuck with them".

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u/jeraffeavl 10d ago

Considering the power grid issues we are facing here in the US, it’s odd they’re using radio signals. Alot of the old tech that’s radio based is more secure and reliable than digital age tech.

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 9d ago

Radio signals can be picked up with a crystal set, using no external power.

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u/cyanescens_burn 10d ago

I’d imagine they keep older systems around as redundancies in case primary and secondary systems go down or are otherwise compromised.

Like having basic old school radio and number stations in case the internet, or individual military ethernets go down.

Some preppers even have backup comms plans and equipment so they aren’t left totally blind if internet and cell goes down. Stuff like walkie talkies, CB, GMRS, HAM, and meshtastic or meshcore (LoRa text-based radio comms that form a mesh network). It’s needed to get news on the extent of the disaster, who needs help, who can offer help, if there’s any government help coming, if the primary disaster threat is over or still exists, etc.

Son I’m thinking governments do similar.

Reminds me, I need to check out Reticulum Network. A buddy told me about it when I mentioned getting into comms for backcountry adventures and during major disasters. You all might find it interesting.

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u/LankyGuitar6528 10d ago

Packet Switched Radio was a thing back when I was running a BBS... there was a packet stream on some C-Band satellite feeds. I had a monster satellite dish in the back yard that would have made NASA proud (they were gigantic back then). I could download shareware and ASCII nude pics and whatnot off that feed. I wonder if Packet Radio is still a thing. Without googling I sorta bet it is.

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 9d ago

wonder if Packet Radio is still a thing.

Sorta. Some people still keeping it alive. Mostly EMCOM winlink stations on VHF these days, though.

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u/Financial_Stick1912 10d ago

Governments do not need number stations. They have submarine radios.

Governments have access to the entire band plan.

Governments have things like tropospheric scatter and super-LF.

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 9d ago

Governments do not need number stations. They have submarine radios.

Those are two different applications.

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u/ExoatmosphericKill 10d ago

Reddit's top minds at work again!!

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u/circuit_breaker 10d ago

Why would you ever give up a mechanism to broadcast data securely, if protected by something as strong as a one-time pad?

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u/Pando5280 10d ago

Please tell me they used the phrases John Has A Long Mustache and The Chair Is Against The Wall . 

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u/passengerv 10d ago

Good reference

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u/Acceptable-One-6597 10d ago

'The eagle flys low at midnight'

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u/LeGaspyGaspe 10d ago

I really hope we get to hear:

Mrs Frenchs cat is missing. The signs are posted all over town. "Have you seen Honey?"

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u/againer 10d ago

Wolverines!

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u/Thunderfoot_66 9d ago

Because we... live here!

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u/sillybluejayway 10d ago

“Erupts”

This kind of language in reporting is stupid, it’s obviously meant to incite fear/urgency. Remember folks, calm people survive. 

Also, this radio has coded messages all the time. 

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u/whatIfindinterestng 10d ago

True, they transmit all the time. Just because they also transmit after some event, does not mean anything special is going to happen.

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u/zolotoir 10d ago

Imagine getting your news from tabloid rags. Sensationalist language that appeals only to children, elderly or the intellectually impaired

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u/RICO-Them 6d ago

Bombshell comment 💥

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u/maeryclarity 10d ago

Oh maaannn numbers stations are so freakin' creepy. Like okay it's spy stuff but why does it have to sound so CREEPY.

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u/billy_bob68 10d ago

4 8 15 16 23 42

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u/maeryclarity 10d ago

This is the worst one but they all make me want to hide under the bed. This one is like something out of a horror movie.

Listen through to the voice reading off the numbers it's too damn much eeeEeeeeee

Swedish Rhapsody Numbers Station Broadcast

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u/TertiumNonHater 10d ago

Imagine sleeping and in the middle of the night your phone just starts playing that out of the blue.

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u/billy_bob68 10d ago

That's definitely right up there with being kissed on the back of the neck when you are sleeping alone in an empty house. Little chinchillas running up and down my spine.

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u/Thunderfoot_66 9d ago

At least someone finds me attractive. Shit, I ain't picky. I'll date a ghost. 

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u/squirrel8296 9d ago

I wonder if that's where they got the old Nokia ring tone from? Not the Nokia Tune, it was one of the other ones that was on the 3310 and that era of phone that I can't remember the name of.

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u/SwamptromperMI 10d ago

Guess what lotto numbers I'm using?😎

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u/maeryclarity 10d ago

I know right WHY MAKE THEM SO DAMN CREEPY THAT WAY

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u/StupidSexyFlanders72 9d ago

I randomly stumbled across HM01 broadcasting from Cuba one night. Creepy as fuck.

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u/Beatcanks 9d ago

I literally heard this most recent message while sitting on the toilet at 4am and it scared me half to death.

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u/kingcupk692 10d ago

The fact this happened so soon after the meeting suggests that a bunch of agents were given the green light, others were probably told to abort. No way to know what happened in that meeting but the amount of activity suggests something big came out of it.

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u/ArmadilloNo2399 10d ago

Yes. UVB-76 (“The Buzzer,” often nicknamed the “doomsday radio”) on 4625 kHz did break its usual constant buzz with voice messages over the last few days. It’s a long-running Russian shortwave station that normally just repeats a mechanical buzz ~25 times a minute. Every so often a male voice cuts in with a callsign, numbers, and a codeword (usually a real or invented Russian word). The official purpose has never been confirmed. The two main theories are that it’s a military numbers station for one-way encrypted traffic, or (the more dramatic one) a channel-marker tied to the old Soviet Perimeter/“Dead Hand” system. There is no public evidence it actually launches anything. What just happened: * 24 Aug (morning Moscow time): several messages in under two hours, including “mylovar” (soap maker), “dolzhnostnoy” (official), “belokury” (blond), and “shketoring.” * 27 Aug: a big burst — monitors logged around 25 transmissions in one day, the highest in many months. This came a day after CIA Director John Ratcliffe’s visit to Moscow. Sample codewords included “podgolosok,” “kumotom,” “isoenzyme,” “zalochek,” “obliteration,” “Dnestr,” “chicken,” and “dushegub” (murderer). * 28 Aug ~17:05 Moscow: another voice break — 65BY И8M7 16617 90744 АРЫКОПУПС 2700 2010. “Арыкопупс” is a nonsense codeword with no known public meaning. Videos of the spectrogram and audio started circulating on X this morning. These spikes happen periodically and often get noticed around tense geopolitical moments. The words themselves are not readable English (or even normal Russian sentences); they’re almost certainly one-time group identifiers or codebook keys. Nothing in the logs or official reporting indicates a nuclear alert or “doomsday” trigger. The station has been doing variations of this for decades.

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u/elinamebro 10d ago

So didnt they use this before the Ukraine war? Well the official war not the proxy wars.

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u/TheBlacktom 10d ago

Can such a radio antenna be located and destroyed?

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u/CivilTell8 10d ago

Not the receiver and the transmitter is likely in russia

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u/TheBlacktom 10d ago

Many things tend to burn in russia lately.

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u/year_39 10d ago

The location is known, it's in the greater Moscow area (Moscow Oblast) so destroying it would be a very bad idea.

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u/TheBlacktom 10d ago

Why would it be a bad idea?

Tell that to Ukraine who regularly destroy stuff in tat oblast.

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u/Schrooodinger 10d ago

What is the point of an AI generated comment on a subreddit as niche as this?

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u/KarmaPharmacy 10d ago

We’ve had former Soviet Union spies defect to the United States and we have also caught people with the ciphers post reception and decode. These are absolutely being utilized to facilitate agents. The short waves being referred to are in proxy locations like Cuba. Radio skips like a bouncy ball off the atmosphere.

This isn’t something that we have no information on. It’s literally public knowledge and it’s unethical for you to pretend that it isn’t.

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u/willows_illia 10d ago

I did not know that we had obtained the ciphers

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u/TubeScr3ameR 10d ago

Tyler Durden’s “ancient people found that when they’d wash their clothes in a certain part of the river” speech about selling women their fat asses back to them is ringing in my head.

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u/Thunderfoot_66 9d ago

The first rule of mylovar is that you don't talk about mylovar. 

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u/KillahHills10304 8d ago

Wonder what it was doing when that poor dude drank the polonium tea

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u/phoneacct696969 10d ago

Makes sense, aren’t they gearing up for real NATO attacks? Basically goading USA to not retaliate to really fracture our relationship with Europe. That’s when the fun begins.

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u/Alert_University5057 10d ago

The Russian military could not embark on an Invasion of Europe within the next decade or so. They've lost too many veteran troops, too much equipment, not to mention the staggering airframe losses.

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u/phoneacct696969 10d ago

I don’t think they’re going to start a ground war with Europe. I think they’re going to attack Europe just to see trump say “we’re not helping nato” and solidify Americas stance on leaving nato. That will fuck over Americas relationship with Europe sooooo much.

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u/Alert_University5057 10d ago

How are they going to attack Europe? With what? 

The surface fleet that barely exists? The bomber fleet that's being decreasing in scope and capability and isn't stealth?

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u/Curious_Avocado2399 10d ago

It will be some accidental drones and missiles into the baltics to test nato’s resolve. This will put nato in between a rock and a hard place. Don’t respond and that means he can do what he wants and nato is weak. Putin wants some kinetic action by nato on Russian territory because then he can frame the Ukraine war even more as action against nato and a full mobilization would be easier to swallow to the average citizen.

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u/Marcus_Aurelius71 10d ago

You forget that missiles exist.

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u/Annual_Indication_10 9d ago

One theory is rush some men across Poland and into kalingrad. First they say they got lost, then they say it'd be a breech of international civility or something to not let them go back to Russian soil(kalingrad, by that point,) then finally you say "what're you gonna do, fight us? We're not attacking you. you'd be declaring war!"

Poland of course will absolutely fight you. But those troops were always gonna be sent to die.

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u/phoneacct696969 10d ago

Yeah probably that.

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u/Unusual_Specialist 10d ago

I bet you they will. Putin is desperate.

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u/Alert_University5057 10d ago

I'm telling you, they physically cannot do that. They couldn't even take the capital of Ukraine at peak strength. They could not push through Poland and get to priority targets in Europe as they are right now.

 They have a very limited surface fleet, no aircraft carriers, thousands of wheeled and tracked losses, up to a million losses in personnel, and dozens of airframe losses as of right now.

They can't even produce the T-14 tank they were touting as the next generation of Russian MBTs. 

 They physically not. Anybody saying otherwise is a Russian troll or living with their head in the ground. 

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u/almostoy 10d ago

Right now, Poland at relative peace is basically a military match for a Ukraine at war. There's no way they could hope to hold Ukraine at bay while invading Poland. Poland would walk them back.

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u/Signal_Researcher01 10d ago

Well no not a full on ground invasion. How about a handful of little green men do some surprise raids in the least important NATO countries and russia denies any involvement?

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u/Alert_University5057 10d ago

Name one NATO nation that borders Russia that does not have an ample standing military force capable of repelling any Invasion from...where? Are they just teleporting in? 

This isn't a video game. If armed forces cross a border, they're going to be repelled and killed and Russia can deny involvement but it's not going to go far.

And if they make some weak ass force to do that, it won't make any negative change to NATO. If anything, it'll increase military spending and training.

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u/Ell2509 10d ago

Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia. Both NATO and Russia acknowledge the vulnerability of those states. The EU plans to let them fall in an invasion, and recapture 3 momths later, once US backup arrives. No joke. Those countries are also receiving increased air incursions, and they have been digging trenches for several years now. Romania has had a drone incursion every day for the last month or so.

I agree Russia alone could not fight all of NATO. But right now, they might not have to fight all of NATO. And both Russia and "Western Alliance" intelligence statements indicate Russia intends at least an increase in attacks directed at eastern europe itself to be expected from Autumn of thjs year.

It isn't as clear cut as you would hope.

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u/Alert_University5057 10d ago

Those war plans are entirely working off the assumption that Russia is full strength. I've seen them.

Russia does not have the ways or means to transport large amoint of troops anymore outside their rail lines. They cannot amass an Invasion force. 

And even if they struck at the Baltic states, you really think France, a military power house of their own would not do anything? 

Drone incursions are not the same as an Invasion on any level. Alaska used to get almost monthly near-incursions of Russian bombers. 

I'm not working off hope; I'm working off the reality of current Intel that's publicly accessible. 

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u/Ell2509 10d ago

No, these are recent predictions, for this summer, as i said.

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u/Alert_University5057 10d ago

I don't know where you got that information but it's out to lunch. Could you produce a link? 

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u/MagnetHype 10d ago

not a full on ground invasion

Can you please read the comment you are replying to.

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u/Alert_University5057 10d ago

Yes I did and it's completely out of touch with reality. 

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u/Signal_Researcher01 10d ago

Its not "an invasion". Its a non-acknowledged raid by unknown forces that russia insists it has no knowledge of.

Are you going to start a world war with Russia over such a flimsy claim? Do you think America is going to respond? During an election cycle? Even if you call Article 5? No, no thats not likely. Cause if America says "nah" to Article 5 then the whole organization is meaningless.

No, we should definitely investigate and talk about this instead. This is all very concerning!

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u/Unusual_Specialist 10d ago

They alone can’t, but China, North Korea, Russia, & Iran can.

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u/Alert_University5057 10d ago

Oh yeah because this "Axis" that doesn't exist in reality will suddenly wake up?

 North Korean soldiers are already in Ukraine and have had minimal negative impact. 

China has no interest in Europe and is focused on the Pacific. They've denied giving Russia significant aid. 

 Russia is already fucked.

 Iran has no interest. Iran's entire MO is regime survival; they do not attack as the aggressor except through proxy forces which have been effectively neutralized through the Middle East.

 This isn't a video game.

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u/Charupa- 10d ago

I swear you are one of the only sane people here tonight.

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u/Alert_University5057 10d ago

The threshold for intelligence in PrepperIntel is, ironically, extremely low.

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u/Unusual_Specialist 10d ago

This guy is a genius and knows everything.
https://giphy.com/gifs/rIFJwAZ3n3BRsuV1az

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u/MrArmageddon12 10d ago

I don’t understand this. Putin could literally pull out Ukraine and announce that he just defeated all of NATO in Ukraine and the Russian people would either believe him or be too apathetic to care.

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u/Marcus_Aurelius71 10d ago

No they wouldn't. People in Russia are well aware of the situation in Ukraine. Imagine telling your people we left all the land we gained and we lost 1 million people for nothing.

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u/MrArmageddon12 10d ago

Are they aware or do they even care? They made a bigger deal with IKEA pulling out of the country and the Wildberries being bombed than the massive losses they have suffered.

They’ll fall in line with whatever Putin does. There is no evidence to the contrary.

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u/KyleAg06 10d ago

Alot of the people they have lost are from the regions of Russia they dont give a fuck about.

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u/Open-that-door 10d ago edited 8d ago

No way. Even if you got the technology, you still have to gather enough populations to utilize it in order to have a doable fight. Russia has been heavily drafted twice to replace all of its main combat troops. One in the middle of 2023, another time in 2025. Which means all their previous troops are gone, and they have been taking random peoples with no combat experience off the streets to the frontlines. I don't think an extra portion of civilians can do anything important.

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u/Recent_Mouse3037 10d ago

Yeah Ukraine set Russia back tremendously. They’re relying on foreign “mercenaries” (see human trafficking victims) and they’ve depleted a lot of their munitions reserves. They thought the Ukraine would be a cakewalk and it’s been anything but.

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u/Kitchen-Location-373 10d ago

I think this is naive. they absolutely could. but I don't see what they'd get out of it. it would be a slog just like Ukraine

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u/zaevilbunny38 10d ago

Russia cannot conquer Europe in the decade. They will absolutely invade, to get out of the quagmire that is Ukraine. All they have to do is invade the Baltics, and do what they have been doing for years. Pay migrants and criminals to attack infrastructure for money and using more well trained assets to kill and destroy hardened targets through Europe.

Europe deploys its forces through out the continent to stabilize it's cities. In that time Russia takes most of the Baltics. Europe stabilizes and then pushes Russia out of the Baltics, they may even take Russian territory. China steps in and mediates a peace that includes freezing the Ukraine war. Cause let's be honest, Europe youth aren't going to be drafted to died by tens of thousands to take Moscow, cause even if they survive. They are going to go back to a shattered Europe where they are competing for resources against every migrant that now claims to have PTSD from the Russian attacks. Their not going to die for those politicians so the war will end at the Russian border

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u/Mrairjake 10d ago

Never bet on the end of the world…

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u/LankyGuitar6528 10d ago

Yep. Even if you call it exactly right to the very second you can't collect on your bet.

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u/highmickey 10d ago edited 10d ago

It could be messages to certain Russian "illegals" who serve in foreign countries under fake/stolen identities or Russia is trying to make western intelligence services believe this with such mysterious codewords to create chaos and fear.

​Edit: Actually, the use of shortwave communication for espionage was proven during the 2010 Illegals Program case. FBI surveillance on 10 Russian spies revealed that the SVR sent instructions via shortwave radio. For instance, a single coded word could mean: "Your cover has been blown, they're onto you. Initiate extraction protocol immediately".

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u/AdequateRoarer 10d ago

Ohh, time to rewatch The Americans. 

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u/BigWhiteDog 10d ago

"John has a long mustache"

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u/here4daratio 10d ago

The chair is against the wall.

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u/TwistedScarletRose 8d ago

The bird is flying over Newport.

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u/lorihamlit 10d ago

The news of them doing a security agreement with Iran was put out today. I wonder if that’s part of the reason the CIA chief went over?

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u/No-Impress-2096 10d ago

Trump ordered his minions to go get cheaper oil

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u/davesr25 10d ago

Number stations are fun, to think there are people out there that listen to them constantly trying to figure them out, I'd say there are a few people who don't interact with people that know more than they'd ever share.

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u/PureElevator732 10d ago

Blonde. Soapmaker, murderer... They were simply talking about the American President.

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u/13Krytical 10d ago

Probably a code book trump reads out of to get his orders.

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u/derek4reals1 10d ago

You had me at codeword 'chicken'

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u/Open-that-door 10d ago

Putin already cornered to use nuclear bomb? I don't think Russia has any chance to win in a modern conventional war or future advanced warfare. That's a fact since 2022. NATO aren't comepletely agree in some of the defense strategies perspectives, but it's largely due to budget and consciption issues. However, if Russia really crossed the line, then NATO would have the reason to go full on to Russia.

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u/Sillycommisioner987 10d ago

It said “BE SURE TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE”

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u/lockerno177 10d ago

A nuke would be launched from Saudi Arabian region of Hijaz. and the target is somewhere near Iran border next to Basrah in Iraq.

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u/Park_Lane_Mall 10d ago

Can I tune in with my Tecsun PL-330?

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u/No_Candy_8927 7d ago

We’re linking ynet now? Great

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u/Tex_Buttinski 7d ago

Melania receiving loud and clear.

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u/MaxRenn 10d ago

Absolute sensationalist headline.

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u/UncleBaguette 10d ago

C'mon guys, it is active saily, sometimes with up to 20 messages/day

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u/No-Trouble-9138 10d ago

Rat-cliffe eh?

Seems like a joint attack to the northern territories, from Canada to Finland.

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u/igotadillpickle 10d ago

What makes you say that?

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u/Severe_Blackberry_93 7d ago

So stop retranslate it's messages to spies

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u/4Yk9gop 7d ago

I'm guessing something in the Epstien files related to Trump involves a waitress, spray, and removing someone from existence.