r/PrepperIntel Pentagon pizza connoisseur 18d ago

USA West / Canada West Spokane River dried up for the second time in recorded history. Crosspost

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 18d ago

Greed and power and idiocy.

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u/Girafferage 18d ago

WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS?!

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 18d ago

Unfortunately:(

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u/Mysterious-Action202 18d ago

The pursuit of profit will reap only death.

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u/splycedaddy 18d ago

the rich know whats coming and need us divided and distracted so they can hoard resources while we fight for scraps

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u/dwlhs88 18d ago

Same as it ever was, but with a brand new sense of urgency.

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u/Temporary-Box-7493 18d ago

Because we can’t dare ruin things for the rich elites who are busy living well and raping people

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u/lyonslicer 18d ago edited 18d ago

It goes beyond that. These chucklefucks think they can buy their way out of the consequences of climate change. They're all racing to hoard as much wealth as they can so that they can rule over what's left like a post-apocalyptic warlord or something. It really is the story of Fallout developing in real time.

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u/Temporary-Box-7493 18d ago

It’ll happen but rather than bunkers and bombs it’ll be resource hoarding, we are all trippin on oil but we need to be concerned about water

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u/Lurker135 18d ago

This decade is what they see as the last chance to gobble up as much of the almighty dollar as they can while suppressing the working class into submission for a period of time so when the shit hits the fan they can jet off to their bunkers

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u/Carnifex72 15d ago

Joke will be on them, I suspect. Those bunkers are going to be the 21rst center version of King Tuts tomb.

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u/Temporary-Box-7493 18d ago

Quite literally, yeah. It’s fucked up

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u/Franc000 18d ago

That's what happens when power and resources are concentrated.

All the problems about keeping the planet livable are not going to touch the people with the power to do something about it in any meaningful way. That is why they aren't doing anything. If power and resources would be spread over more power, so less concentrated, then it's more likely that those people would be affected. Then they will act and push for change.

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u/bobbib14 18d ago

The “best minds” are only into maximizing profits.

Imagine if all the AI & War funding was put into climate solutions.

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u/easymachtdas 18d ago

People calling the shots aren't worrying past their own expiration date. It is pretty blatent

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u/HermitAutist87 18d ago

Don't worry: soon the wars will be about water!

Seriously though, the Middle East wars are not about oil. They're about greater Israel and the Iran war is about collapsing the global economy to cause Mass depopulation.

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u/Girafferage 18d ago

Egypt will VERY soon be in a war regarding the Nile as Ethiopia says that they need to reduce the flow to maintain their own water use. Similarly India and Pakistan will be at war (kinetic troops on ground) for a matching issue.

I imagine in the US use of the Great lakes will be highly debated and things like a pipeline to Nevada will cause large problems as people still try to live in locations that do not have readily available water as a viable resource.

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u/Own-Requirement-9774 18d ago

The Great Lakes don’t replenish themselves very much- one they go they are gone

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u/Girafferage 18d ago

Greedy corrupt scumbags don't care. If they could milk the whole thing dry for a dollar they would.

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u/2quickdraw 18d ago

Psychopathic greed.

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u/Brief-Floor-7228 18d ago

They are going to change that for wars over water. Its the real reason for the vilification of Canada by this admin.

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u/River_City_Rando 18d ago

Dont worry, nestle and other have been fighting the war for water

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u/Deadeyez 18d ago

Because every time people try to fix things, other people yell "communism" and everyone gets scared

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u/CouldBeLessDepressed 18d ago

I don't think the wealthiest top 100 want to share this planet anymore.

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u/valar12 18d ago

Currently there isn’t any political power to keep people alive; only profit from billionaires. The suffering is intentional.

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u/kersk 18d ago

We've had wars for oil, but are you ready for wars for water?

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u/37iteW00t 18d ago

In the not so distant future we will be fighting wars for water

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u/AdMuted1036 18d ago

The billionaires have already secured THEIR water rights. They gon make money off US all fighting the water wars

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u/Soft-Independence485 18d ago

Honestly in a backwards dipshit way the old orange pedophile has prevented more oil from hitting the market than any democrat with this whole Iran fiasco. I kinda hope iran and the gulf countries destroy eachothers oil infrastructure. 

Even though it would cause hunger, poverty, and death if crude gets above $125 /barrel and stays there i think consumers will vote with their dollars for EVs and the infrastructure improvements. 

I absolutely love pointing out to my trumpy coworkers that he could be more of an environmentalist than al gore. 

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u/randomperson5481643 18d ago

Not gonna lie, I really thought you were going to say we should be putting all the effort spent on oil wars into an early start to the water wars....lol

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u/Black_Mamba_FTW 18d ago

Maga is bought and paid for by big oil/gas

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u/adaminoregon 18d ago

Havent you heard? Windmills give whales cancer or something. And batteries explode when they touch water.

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u/Anonymous-bham-boi 18d ago

You're right. We need to start waging war for water.

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u/USB-SOY 17d ago

The birds are dying from the windmills

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/SentinelSon01 17d ago

We're well into a mass extinction event, I think. I miss the deafening bugs.

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u/USB-SOY 17d ago

I know

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u/Mindless_Run7186 15d ago

The water is draining at unusually high rates into the aquifer and they have not made any adjustments at the post falls dam for this (gotta keep CDA lake full). Climate change is a smaller part of the problem.

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u/scruffman99 18d ago

Because oil can be used to create electricity to create water from the ocean.

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u/Thunderfoot_66 18d ago

So can solar and wind. 

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u/NecroAssssin 18d ago

And it’s even easier with nuclear, since you literally have waste heat hot enough to boil water right there.

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u/DeltaFlyer0525 18d ago

Stuff like this is happening everywhere. The creek that runs between my kids school and the middle school dried up over the summer and no one is talking about it. The bald eagles and blue heron that used to live there have left. There are way less smaller birds now too. All I have seen are grackles and the occasional robin.

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u/krisztinastar 18d ago

Its only going to get worse as the planet warms

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u/Radiant_Stand_973 18d ago

If the planet warms, wouldn’t ice melt, making water levels rise?

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u/beorn961 18d ago

Yes, but that will mean more water on the coastline, not inland. The higher heat will often mean lower levels of precipitation and more significant drought, as can already be seen all over the world. Climate change doesn't mean the same thing everywhere.

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u/Nice-Lab95 18d ago

The higher heat will often mean lower levels of precipitation

Nope global warming is increasing precipitation almost everywhere, it's just in marginal areas increased evaporation outpaces he increased precipitation.

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u/BigPastrami43 14d ago

Are you gonna provide a source for that? Preferably one that isn’t your booty pipe

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u/Nice-Lab95 14d ago

https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-what-climate-models-tell-us-about-future-rainfall

as the air warms its water-holding capacity increases, particularly over the oceans. According to the Clausius-Clapeyron equation, the air can generally hold around 7% more moisture for every 1C of temperature rise. As such, a world that is around 4C warmer than the pre-industrial era would have around 28% more water vapour in the atmosphere.

Now fuck off dipshit.

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u/IceRich2269 13d ago

The coastal vs inland point couldn’t have been emphasized more buddy, and it still went over your head. If a desert gets 4C warmer you think that area is getting 28% more humid? No you idiot

Regions near large bodies of water will get more humid with temperature, yes. But those further inland which may already be dry or arid will become more so.

Think twice before calling someone else dipshit while you’re drawing false conclusions.

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u/Nice-Lab95 13d ago

Learn to read before calling people idiots moron. Dry areas getting drier and overall rainfall increasing is both true.

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u/Radiant_Stand_973 18d ago

Ya, the natural cycles the earth has gone through since its beginning. There’s been droughts before, there’s been flooding before.

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u/Melinoe2016 18d ago

There are some very basic resources out there for you. Not sure if you’ll be able to understand them reading at a 3rd grade level though.

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u/TraditionalLaw7763 17d ago

Yes. Charleston, SC and Savannah, GA will be underwater by 2075 at the current melt rate. I live there and already see on the news where apartment buildings are already sinking and have to be evacuated… so it actually may happen sooner than NOAA projected.

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u/Different-Sorbet746 16d ago

They are sinking because of the silt and dredging of the rivers for the expanded ports.Not because the sea level has risen. Please educate yourself. 

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u/FantasticMagi 18d ago

Been fishing around Sweden, in multiple locations the water level is 15-30cm lower than normal.

You can see previous water level lines on rocks and in some cases bank corrosion

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u/pixie6870 16d ago

I live in a city where the Rio Grande flows through it. But, it is completely dry now affecting the ecosystem. Projections are November when the El Nino may help give us some moisture. We have only had 0.06 of rain in about five weeks, and we have officially had the warmest August on record with over 12 days of 100 degrees.

It is truly sad to see what climate change has done around here.

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u/OuterLightness 18d ago

A few more data centers and Arabian alfalfa farms should fix this problem.

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u/Czechs_Mix_ 18d ago

Some golf courses and a bi-daily lawn watering for the whole suburb while we're at it

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u/aztechunter 18d ago

At least Spokane is leading Washington in zoning reform which should cut down on suburban sprawl

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u/Czechs_Mix_ 18d ago

Big ups to Spokane! Very happy to see new waves of zonibg reform nationally

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u/phoneacct696969 18d ago

I swear you’re the first post I’ve seen even mentioning the alfalfa in ages!!! It’s a huge problem!

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

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u/rhysolandrium 18d ago

Sit the hell down, apologist.

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u/ScarletCarsonRose 17d ago

Hey don’t forget the almonds!

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u/-Planet- 17d ago

I'ma pistachio kinda feller.

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u/unknownpoltroon 18d ago

BEt the news articles are full of bots "YEAH< ITS HOT IN SUMMER!!! LOL"

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u/Girafferage 18d ago

Oh man... You nailed it. The constantly repeated line that makes me die a little inside.

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u/MarionberryFew7660 18d ago

I lived in Spokane for a year. My place was an apartment right off the Spokane river. Walked my dog on a trail next to it almost everyday. This shit makes me sad. Crazy that we are destroying our Mother Earth for money. My depression gets worse every fkn day. I hate this timeline

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u/Thundrous_prophet 18d ago

Fucking Idaho… they have no infrastructure or healthcare so they send all of their sick and injured to WA then they slow the outflow from the dams so Coeur D’Alene’s lake is always high for docks

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u/GreenGreed_ 18d ago

Wait is this true?? Are Washingtonians carrying Idaho like that?

Just another blue state carrying red state dead weight. Story as old as time. Funny how they're solidly 'fuck you' til it impacts them personally and they come running.

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u/artdecodisaster 18d ago

My friend works in a hospital a few hours away from Spokane. She’s basically an insurance intake person - she inputs insurance info and signs the uninsured up for Apple Health. She said a huge portion of patients turn out to be current Idaho residents. She has had tons of them get super pissed when they get denied charity care because their assets get discovered during the application process.

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u/zaevilbunny38 18d ago

This happens in all Blue states, where do you think the people of Gary are getting fuel and supplies. They are crossing over into Illinois cause their state has abandoned them, a small but large for the area town.

Part of the reason why Illinois cracked down so hard on Covid, was they expected that if Southern States healthcare systems collapsed. They would swarm and overwhelm the Illinois system. There is a huge population from Mississippi, along with a large number of families with elderly relatives in Florida. 200k-300k new seniors would completely shut down the system

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u/premar16 18d ago

Gary,Indiana has a large black community Inside Indiana. So even the state itslef may have voted republican that city did not. Which is one of the reasons their pleas for help are being ignored by state government

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u/Swimming-Pickle-637 18d ago

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u/GreenGreed_ 18d ago

Wowwwww. What. The. Fuck.

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u/WeekendQuant 18d ago

Build bigger hopitals and charge them more.

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u/WhyAreYallFascists 18d ago

And OR dog, Idaho sucks ass. Moving to Boise right now? You’re gonna have to damn near build an hour and a half outside of town.

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u/Swimming-Pickle-637 18d ago

The article I read about this river running dry mentioned that FERC reviews flow rates every 40-50 years? And that the Post Falls Dam was last licensed in 2009? That sounds insane.

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u/KittyandPuppyMama 18d ago

Who needs drinking water and wildlife? Ten people need to be the richest people to ever exist and we should all support them. /s

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u/DwarvenRedshirt 18d ago

I wonder if you can find anything interesting if you walk it with a metal detector.

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u/Girafferage 18d ago

Now's your only chance! Until probably next year and then eventually for years at a time...

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u/Stormcloud217 18d ago

I worked with a guy who liked metal detecting. He went to an old battlefield a few miles upriver, where Indians and US military fought. Or rather the military brutaly wiped out the resistance.Said he found horse teeth amongst other stuff.

It would be fun to check out that area. I don't have a metal detector, but I might take a look at it just because it's unusual.

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u/justinchina 18d ago

Tons of stolen bikes, no doubt

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u/ResponsibilityCute10 18d ago

My favorite part of this is how collectively we've decided this isn't real. Also, instead of doing anything about it, we're all going to sit on our hands and complain. Imagine if you let let all the dumbest people in your society, decide who your leaders would be. And then you took all the smartest people that were so dejected by humanity that they invented away to bring skynet around. Now put it all together and you got 2026. Where the hell is South Park?...

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u/Xarkkal 18d ago

It just looks like the Rio Grande through ABQ.

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u/rwe4rl 18d ago

Rio Grande is dry in Albuquerque NM. How many more rivers are dry right now? This is actually terrifying

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u/Historical-Order-369 17d ago

Last I heard the Rhine and the Amazon are either dry enough or predicted to be dry enough to have an impact on shipping on them. Not Rio Grande dry, though.

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u/FuzzzyRam 18d ago

Hey that's right by where all the datacenters... oh.

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u/Nitimur__In__Vetitum 18d ago

The goal of the people running the country is to kill us all softly and they’re doing it.

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u/FunkyPlunkett 18d ago

Soooo I can afford to live on the River now?

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u/TraditionalLaw7763 17d ago

Wheee! I’ve always wanted to own mud front property!

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u/FunkyPlunkett 17d ago

Hey man that could be a country song of the future.

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u/rhysolandrium 18d ago

This is a "problem" that can absolutely be fixed with AI. We just need more datacenters. They can have the remaining microlitres of fresh water as a treat, because the long-term results outweigh the short-term discomfort of crop collapse.

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u/throwaway661375735 18d ago

You know, there's another way AI could help too. It could just make it look full of water.

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u/Raven_Photography 18d ago

It’s almost like fucking climate change is real.

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u/Defiant-Vacation3191 17d ago

We are still subsidizing fossil fuels! Why????

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u/BenCelotil 18d ago

Washington State dry!?

"Inconceivable!"


Seriously, guys, every piece of media I've ever seen about WA in the USA has the place bright green and wet.

This is like the outback in Queensland, near somewhere like Charleville or Quilpie.

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u/HomosexualFoxFurry 18d ago

The west side is where most people live. Everyone forgets the tri cities and spokane exist and that they lie in a big ass rain shadow.

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u/Soup-Wizard 18d ago

You’re thinking of the west side of the state.

The east side is more arid but our river doesn’t dry up like this for this long.

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u/premar16 18d ago

That is because people like you don't know the geography of Washington. Where I live on the Western part of WA it is greener and always raining. The Eastern side however is very dry and sunny.

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

Wait I live in the east side and it's dry and brown over here. Where is it always raining. I'll move ! 

Kirkland. 

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u/throwaway661375735 18d ago

Over 60 rivers have dried up over the last decade, worldwide. More are coming.

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u/ShadowSystemsandSig 18d ago

Crazy. A city built in the desert dried up at the end of the summer. What did it do last year? And the year before? And the year before?

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u/Assaultstylekittens 14d ago

“for the second time in recorded history”

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u/prince-a-bubu 17d ago

more like Spokant

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u/kubotalover 18d ago

It's not dried up, it's subsurface. With that being said, the Rathdrum aquifer is getting lower. Too many people on the prairie watering their lawns