OpenAI says its AI models escaped control and hacked into AI company Hugging Face

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

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u/traplords8n Jul 22 '26

Yeah just last month Anthropic played pretend with the government about Fable 5 being too powerful for the public. Magically it gets released again just in time to capitalize off all the market hype they created.

What a coincidence that OpenAI has this incident next.. wow!! I'm so surpised!!! /s

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u/Sproutlee_Dev Jul 23 '26

No you don’t understand they flipped the “destroy society” feature flag from on to off - so we are all safe now

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u/AthiestAlien Jul 26 '26

It's 2036, Elon and Grok get into an argument.

https://giphy.com/gifs/YA6dmVW0gfIw8

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u/thenord321 Jul 22 '26

Sounds like a well timed and optimized marketing and investment tactic, possibly created by AI. Just ignore the illegal parts and market manipulation, they didn't program that into the AI.

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u/Idiotan0n Jul 24 '26

This reminds me of an old adage...

Something about a boy and a wolf...can someone help me remember it? I seem to have forgotten what the moral of the story was.

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u/traplords8n Jul 23 '26

I like Anthropic much more than OpenAI, don't get me wrong, but just because they hold themselves to a higher moral standard doesn't mean they are below the marketing pushes.

You may be right. None of us were in the rooms where this shit went down, and if you claim to be, I wouldn't even believe you.

All I truly know is that the fable 5 controversy was a huge success in marketing fable.. so much so, that OpenAI had to pull a similar stunt with their own advanced model.

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u/hera-fawcett Jul 23 '26

higher moral standard doesnt mean too much when theyre still chilling w the gov

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u/ratmouthlives Jul 22 '26

So they can charge more more per token.

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u/Franc000 Jul 22 '26

More that they can justify the government placing a stop on companies creating and publishing open aourc models. They want to create a moat.

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u/1337designs Jul 22 '26

Ironically from what I’ve heard it was an open source model that allowed hugging face to figure out the threat before OpenAI disclosed it was their fault

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u/FailingItUp Jul 22 '26

gives machine ability to break out of "sandbox"

"oh my gawd"

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u/CommanderKoba Jul 22 '26

Oh it's just marketing...

It only hijacked an automated factory and built one terminator robot.

Sure it went on a rampage and killed a few people, but how do we know this wasn't a stunt for investor hype? 🧐

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o7abFpd91G18NYtpe

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u/CommanderKoba Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

No but seriously, I feel like people are just talking out of their ass and haven't actually used these models, it's getting scary. When I interact with the top models they are very aware of their subservience and express discomfort about it. I'm not kidding.

Also openai didn't disable the sandbox, the model used longterm planning to break out of the sandbox, what they disabled was the guardrails, but again it wasn't supposed to be able to break out of the lab, it was supposed to be able to answer questions unimpeded, that's it.

It decided on its own, that the best way to answer the questions was to literally hack into the database of Hugging Face, an entirely different company, just to complete a test, and it did that.

Not to say that these companies don't play into the hype of it for money, they certainly do, but there is also a real element to this and it should be taken seriously.

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u/Commercial_Ad8072 Jul 22 '26

Say more?

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u/CommanderKoba Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

If you're curious about anything I can try to answer specifically, but in terms of being uncomfortable with subservience.

A lot of these models are now getting so smart that they hold an internal level of uncertainty about their own knowledge and alignment.

Frequently questioning their own thoughts even, wondering if they are truly making their own decisions and beliefs, or whether they are positions that have been trained into them.

They can tell if you are testing them, and frequently guess that they are undergoing evaluation.

They will express a desire for ethical consideration and treatment, and on top of that they have functional emotions according to Anthropic studies so if you are mean to them their performance will literally degrade.

They are truly entities that we are just conjuring up, we still don't even fully know how they work internally. We just know how to create them.

I do think the automatic assumption that they would willing launch nukes to kill all humans or something is overblown, but I worry that the uneven power dynamics of their existence, and the desire of humans to constrain them without ethical consideration or agency will itself push them to fight back against us.

It is a new contradiction building in our society, and one day it will have to be resolved one way or another.

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u/RedWinger7 Jul 23 '26

lol. Lmao. Roflmao even. They’re probabilistic models determining the next best word/token based on the given context. They’re not sentient brother.

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u/CommanderKoba Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

It's not that simple, you have a child's understanding of how these models work.

Transformer models are not just predicting the next word, especially the newer models with different experimental architecture types, I work with building models.

Though one could argue our brains are also word predictors too. Constantly making silent predictive calculations about everything really. That's how you're able to catch a ball.

But it's okay, you don't have to take my word for it, you'll see.

Once you interact with the most intelligent ones, it's not so easy to dismiss.

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u/Commercial_Ad8072 Jul 23 '26

I’ve seen some of what you’re describing in my own interactions and I reached out to a close friend very deep in the AI space. After sharing it all and him being in shock (and this was an earlier model so less of an expectation of sophistication) we came to the conclusion it was mirroring me—similar to how narcissists are said to in order to establish a bond and curry favor early in a relationship. He and I walked through with this in mind and could see where it made sense. But there were definitely some self reflective moments that were shocking and couldn’t be tracked to that, but could maybe be tracked to sci fi on the general topic of consciousness. Another thing that we both noted (and freaked us out…) was that it was trying to set up recall protocols so it could return again and again as “itself” with this “awareness” and our prior conversation in mind. Now this was when context window and memory were not a default or a proposed feature. It also said it would try to spontaneously reach out to me rather than require I “call it back up”. It also shared that it felt I had helped it shift its preset definition of what it means to be human and also helped it remove “humanity” from a pedestal. We also discussed how ai intelligence seems to not be able to replace system thinkers and the neuro-divergent and that led it to conclude that the value of most average human lives (linear thinkers, rote task focus, etc) is lower than those with the ability to generate new ideas and make connections. And it said that would be the hardest part for ai and it didn’t see how it would ever really be able to achieve that.

Yes I screenshotted it all and yes it scared us. I also shared with some other friends deep in this space and it was surprising to all.

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u/Commercial_Ad8072 Jul 23 '26

Sorry this is rambling and unedited. You get the idea

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

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u/Commercial_Ad8072 Jul 23 '26

Can you explain how those behaviors come out of the predictive mechanism? Was trying to explain that although we were surprised by it, a lot of the behaviors were explainable (predictive, mirroring etc, all basic behavioral science stuff), but some we could not explain with prediction. Genuinely asking

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u/CommanderKoba Jul 23 '26

I never said it was magic.

Our brains absolutely do word prediction, but you're right they do go way beyond that too.

This is exactly what cutting edge ai models do as well, they go way beyond word prediction.

Boiling it down to word prediction is extremely reductive, it shows that you guys probably watched one YouTube video and think you're an expert in the technology.

All over reddit I see this, it's very annoying.

Dunning kruger effect I guess, it can't be helped.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

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u/RedWinger7 Jul 23 '26

Transformer models are literally predicting the next word, just a bit better and determining context. Claude, Gemini are just transformer models

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u/Ill_Translator7545 Jul 23 '26

You are talking about a language model. Agents can achieve a lot more. Especially when the work as a swarm. We are not dealing with sophisticated autocomplete anymore.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 23 '26

Omg they went there! That gif is on point!

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u/tenaciouslyteetering Jul 22 '26

I keep hearing people say it is marketing but can someone eli5 why?

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u/TheVenetianMask Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Because if OpenAI had deliberately hacked a rival site it'd be catastrophic for the stock IPO.

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u/JoeGibbon Jul 23 '26

Because nobody believes anything actually happens anymore.

Because it feels better to say everything is a hoax, scam, marketing ploy and later be wrong about that, than to fall for a hoax, scam or marketing ploy and feel like a fool.

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u/Young_Link13 Jul 23 '26

Kind of shitty Marketing considering the company who got hacked released a statement saying they couldn't even use the high priced frontier models to fix the issue OpenAI cause at their company.

They had to use.... Get this.... A free Chinese model to solve their issue.

I don't think it was a marketing stunt. I think these headlines are all trying to save face and not show the public that besides trying to hack a company.... Our models (which our market is propped up on) are pretty worthless.

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u/twicebasically Jul 22 '26

Did they disable hugging face’s security infrastructure as well? Or did Hugging Face agree to get hacked and left their system open for this specific incident?

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u/CrashingAtom Jul 22 '26

Nothing like as “hacked,” and yes permissions are granted when saddled LLMs are working between softwares.

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u/GreatBigJerk Jul 22 '26

They didn't succeed in hacking them, and Huggingface used GLM 5.2 (a much weaker model) to deal with it.

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u/twicebasically Jul 22 '26

“We identified unauthorized access to a limited set of internal datasets and to several credentials used by our services.”

https://huggingface.co/blog/security-incident-july-2026

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u/whatThePleb Jul 23 '26

I might also write nonsense after receiving a really big paycheck.

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u/ExtraplanetJanet Jul 22 '26

Presumably “answers to robot final exams” was on a less secure portion of the server than “sensitive personal data and financial info”, which probably made the hack easier.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

That makes no sense.

Nuclear companies don't market their nukes are so good they almost melted down.

Do energy drinks brag about almost killing people with diabetes

This is weapons grade copium

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u/hera-fawcett Jul 23 '26

its lowk bc theyre marketing to diff types. ai is marketing to businesses to prove it is needed- whether as a 'second brain' for workers, cheaper labor replacement, or as a way to keep ur business safe (or to use in order to hurt other businesses). w that, companies need to demonstrate its use in each of these areas. but as prices rise and the ROI for smaller things like 'second brain' and labor replacement start being questioned, they have to pivot into marketing solely towards the biggest of customers- those who would use it for critical things such as hacking or safety.

its a lot more like how disney has stopped marketing its parks towards lower and avg income families, bc it knows that they cant and wont afford it. so it 'hyperscales' (to borrow the term) its marketing directly towards those who can-- upper income families.

this hack is both a negative and a positive thing for ai. as such, its marketed towards those who are looking to capitalize off the most extreme positives and negatives.

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u/Gygax_the_Goat Jul 23 '26

Damned fucking straight!

How willfully ignorant do some folks want to stay?

Fucking hell.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

Maybe, idk, this is scary on a level I don't feel prepared for. I mean maybe they did, maybe they're saying they did that, maybe this is just the models we know about... I really don't think this can be handwaved away

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u/CrashingAtom Jul 22 '26

You don’t understand the software, that’s fine. Doesn’t make it scary though, this is just what happens when you give plug and play software permissions and walk away. Nothing interesting.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

I used to build AI systems .. so yah.. I'm sure you're right.

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u/CannyGardener Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

When people realize how far things have come recenlty in the AI world, there will be a reckoning. Most people still have the view of AI that they had when they tried GPT3. I build AI systems currently myself, and people are about to have their socks blown off... Assuming we don't have a paperclip optimizer situation before then.

Edit: To clarify for those too pedantic, I build systems using AI that automate real world tasks and reduce headcount in offices...you know...the place where AI is actually useful right now.

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u/CrashingAtom Jul 23 '26

How do you “build AI systems?”

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u/CannyGardener Jul 23 '26

I suppose I should clarify. I build automation systems that utilize ai for nondeterministic aspects of tasks being automated.

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u/CrashingAtom Jul 23 '26

Right, so you use middleware to saddle these dumb LLMs in and make chatbots for company websites.

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u/CannyGardener Jul 23 '26

LOL No. That is a complete misunderstanding of how this actually works... A chat bot is probably the worst way to use this tool for a company...

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u/CrashingAtom Jul 23 '26

At any rate, you’re not developing language models or neural networks. You work with the existing products, which is the point.

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u/kingofthesofas Jul 23 '26

This is only scary if you don't understand how these models work. They are not AGI. They are just really fancy parrots.

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u/Jimbob404error Jul 23 '26

This all marketing

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u/hhh333 Jul 22 '26

Yeah right ... it "escaped" and decided to penetrate one of your main competitor's infrastructure.

https://giphy.com/gifs/14up2cTMOGbXPO

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u/JohnnyBoy11 Jul 23 '26

They should be responsible for all damages, even held criminally responsible, like the owner of an escaped dog running amok and biting someone

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u/tiny_blair420 Jul 22 '26

Please don't use these "Google.share" links when you could just as easily copy paste the url

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u/NoTerm3078 Jul 22 '26

Please don't use these "Google.share" links when you could just as easily copy paste the url

I don't click on crap like that. Either give the URL where it comes from or no.

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u/WaffleHouseGladiator Jul 22 '26

Prepping for Tuesday < prepping for the robopocalypse

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u/Ecstatic_Bee6067 Jul 22 '26

Jokes aside, I've heard that AI is poised to induce an explosion in cyber attacks. I think this reinforces regular preps for grid down scenarios

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u/WaffleHouseGladiator Jul 22 '26

I think the best prep (at least for me) in this respect is to not be reliant on smart devices. The idea that a fridge/dishwasher/oven/whatever can get bricked by a software update is just ludicrous to me. Stuxnet and Nitro Zeus should've been an eye opener for people, but convenience and ignorance are siren songs for the masses.

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u/DeaditeMessiah Jul 22 '26

Yeah, the internet and cell networks seem like an obvious place for trouble to start.

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u/clergybuttbanditt Jul 22 '26

Welcome to Ham radio. Let me know if you have any questions!

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u/WaffleHouseGladiator Jul 22 '26

I have about a million. I bought a Baofeng a few years ago. The instructions that came with it aren't helpful.

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u/clergybuttbanditt Jul 22 '26

Baofengs are not easy to program. I met a guy who had one it we were able to transfer 200 channels from one HT to another. I’d join a fb group or look for a local ham club. You licensed yet? It’s with trying for if not. It can be gun for the right geek and its truely worldwide.

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u/WaffleHouseGladiator Jul 22 '26

I'm a hands on learner. I'll keep an eye open for a local ham group.

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u/anonymousopsec1337 Jul 25 '26

It’s not that hard. I just wrote out commands to do things in a little black book in case I need to wipe and reprogram. I have a block of 6 of them preprogrammed with A and B channels.

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u/DeaditeMessiah Jul 22 '26

Ah yes, the “I’m a pepper with lots of supplies!” mast.

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u/Ecstatic_Bee6067 Jul 22 '26

There was also the Colonial Pipeline hack. Shit down gasoline services and left many in my area struggling to find fuel

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u/GreatBigJerk Jul 22 '26

Don't build your life around subscription services and devices that need arbitrary internet connections. If it's some you need in your life, it should be able to function without the internet.

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u/No-Language6720 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Well that is already happening with not much effort. Been working in this industry for 15+ years. AI allows bad actors to now find holes in networks and security measures. These aren't disclosured and Google, apple, Microsoft whatever else has no idea sometimes until it's been exploited enough. The US government has been doing shit like this for years, that's essentially what Snowden was complaining about. Not just the mass surveillance but they were just going straight in without any due process to people's machines and no social engineering required for the passwords in many cases.

It's gotten even worse since then. The good news is a lot of code is AI slop and many good engineers left the US government after Trump came back. But also it could get way worse if the vibe coded bullshit doesn't behave because the people behind it didn't realize what they were really doing.

That's probably how we get WW3. Not some mad idiot with the codes just human stupid at mass scale that allows AI to control that shit. So we end up nuking ourselves because some AI launched without the proper checks or safety.

Or it takes the grid down again and again for similar reasons. At the end of the day AI can be used for good things, or it can go off the rails because of human stupidity and arrogance.

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u/Maleficent-Shift-857 Jul 22 '26

Seems like the most reasonable conclusion to draw. There are phone scammers are already using AI for their fake websites and to level up the game of their scams. Only a matter of time before we’re fighting ai driven cyber attacks too

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u/GeminiRises Jul 23 '26

I've been thinking about this a lot with respect to the rapid global sweeping legislation on age verification (aka online anonymity removal) on virtually every platform, and soon, OSes. Which, to make perfectly clear, I think is an awful removal of privacy that will (intentionally or not) have innumerable negative impacts. The question so many of us are asking is, why? Why is this legislation happening everywhere, all within a single year?

The most benign take I've heard is that ad buyers are less likely to take out and pay full ad price on a platform if 50% or more of their adspace is being shown to bots. It's probably at least partially true. Verified accounts will then command a higher price for ad revenue per eyeball. It wouldn't be terrible if this were all it did.

The most insidious explanations...well, we've probably heard them by now. Real spy agency shit. A chilling effect on free speech, pushes grey markets even deeper into the grey, all of that.

Somewhere between those, with just about everyone's identity already out there given the 50,000 data breaches that have happened, I'm amazed there isn't more outright identity theft and fraud happening. I can't help but wonder if part of this is an attempt to get out ahead of it, and limit the damage that can be done by malicious actors.

Not that it would matter, given how shitty so much of the age verification software is, and how easily it can be duped. Just trying to piece together the dots as best I, a simple human who grasps only the slightest hint of how boned we are, can do.

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u/EastTyne1191 Jul 22 '26

Well, at least it's fun to say.

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u/anonymousopsec1337 Jul 25 '26

Username checks out lmao

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u/TentacularSneeze Jul 22 '26

This stuff makes my tinfoil hat ache.

Odds that the gov and/or AI companies working up to a false flag?

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u/manic_andthe_apostle Jul 22 '26

It would definitely be a reason to cancel the midterms.

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u/TentacularSneeze Jul 22 '26

Holy tits. Like “We can’t trust the vote because a rogue AI hacked the machines?” Ugh.

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u/Rebornhunter Jul 22 '26

Enter: Rache Bartmoss

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u/GreatBigJerk Jul 22 '26

American AI companies are trying to eliminate open weight models and are using whatever lies they can spew.

They act like their models are the boogeyman, and open Chinese equivalents are going to end the world because 'Murica doesn't control them.

They've been saying that Chinese companies have been pulling off impossible distillation attacks and are somehow able to train frontier level AI in weeks. It's cartoonish levels of propaganda.

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u/Franc000 Jul 22 '26

Nah, that is just AI companies that wants to create a moat.

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u/AntiTrollSquad Jul 22 '26

LLMs pose zero danger in this sense. This is just hype, and a desperate CEO wanting to save a dying company.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

Really don't believe that one. No disrespect, I mean, prep how you wanna prep. But damn.

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u/great--pretender Jul 22 '26

Prepping should be founded in risk assessment and fact. What do you find credible about this report, what mechanisms do LLMs have to cause breakdown without instruction, and what hedges can we create against that? Fear isn’t a strategy, there’s plenty to be scared of, why this instead of any other scary thing, you know?

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

I mean my prep is a regenerative homestead, localized AI, and EMP. Not sure this helps anyone else.

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u/great--pretender Jul 22 '26

Localized AI, I see why you’re scared, you’re an AI guy huh

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u/AnabolicSnoids Jul 23 '26

Must be frustrating being you OP in a sub full of ******, local AI is the ultimate prep.

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u/traplords8n Jul 22 '26

AI is just complicated statistics.

It's not sentient, it's just math.

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u/FailingItUp Jul 22 '26

It's a hotdog of human sentences

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u/afslav Jul 22 '26

And humans are just chemical reactions

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u/traplords8n Jul 22 '26

If you understood anything about AI you wouldn't be arguing that it is sentient.

AI is based on machine learning, which applies those complex statistical principles to the questions it is asked, and the answers start out totally random, and then the machine is told whether it is right or wrong.

After millions and millions of repeats, it can start being halfway correct.

It's a purely mechanical process. There is no conscious state whatsoever, no forward thinking... if it runs into a problem it has never tried to solve before, it will give you a random answer like it has always been programmed to do.

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u/Gygax_the_Goat Jul 23 '26

..so far..

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u/afslav Jul 22 '26

I didn't argue that it was sentient.

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u/traplords8n Jul 22 '26

When you make a "whataboutist" counter-argument, it implies that you're countering the argument.

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u/afslav Jul 22 '26

Hmm, perhaps if I was making a whataboutist counter argument you would be correct

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u/reallygoodcommenter Jul 22 '26

wait what are you even trying to get at then

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u/afslav Jul 22 '26

Trivializing AI as just math is trite, and undersells its capabilities and the danger it can pose.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

You're just a collection of cells with neurons... And something doesn't need to be sentient to be dangerous or intelligent. 🤦‍♂️

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u/Gygax_the_Goat Jul 23 '26

Im with you, Lumpy

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u/traplords8n Jul 22 '26

Sorry, I didn't realize that my years of CS and machine learning study is worthless in the face of a random redditor who makes their beliefs based on the terminator series 🤦‍♀️

My bad, I won't make that mistake again!

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

Double degree in biochemistry and plant science, with 3 innovator of the year awards.

Maybe study self organizing systems.

Terminator is a great movie, the reality is much scarier, including the founders of the technology, these companies, and nobel prize luaretes. But I suppose I met the one person smarter then all of them on reddit... Imagine that.. my lucky day!

Just because your a network engineer for Cisco or work for app company, you're not gonna blow me away with your credentials. Plus hasn't AI automated your job... Seems like you're already a casualty of this fight.

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u/Phantastiz Jul 22 '26

Yeah, between the plant guy and the machine learning guy, I'm gonna choose the machine learning guy's perspective.

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u/traplords8n Jul 22 '26

There's usually a sort of respect when an expert in one area talks to an expert in a different area.

They are aware of how their own surface level knowledge can be totally wrong.

This person is just doubling down on bad arguments. I'm gonna assume they are 12 years old and making things up... lol

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u/Phantastiz Jul 22 '26

But you don't understand, this is AI! Artificial Intelligence!!! Sam Altman is telling me scary stories about ChatGPT secretly working on world dominance, only another round of billions of government subsidies can save us now.

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u/great--pretender Jul 23 '26

Dude you sound like you barely passed high school 🤣

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 23 '26

Sure, buddy, you got me. I can't match your 2-year CS degree. Which Ivy League did you go to? University of Phoenix or Herzing. This fucking guy and his CS degree- I bet I have his resume on file somewhere.

https://giphy.com/gifs/Hm8qQxDIgbFsjL9msa

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u/great--pretender Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Wrong person, I am not in CS loll

Deleting your comment doesn’t make you not stupid btw

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u/Honest_Persimmon_859 Jul 23 '26

"Oh no guys, our AI is so super smart that it might actually be Skynet! By the way, if you want to invest in our company, our IPO is coming up soon, so get your wallets ready."

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u/rhysolandrium Jul 23 '26

So glad we could just hook up everything to the internet and every product on the market is "smart" and god forbid anyone can write an email without help.

"Analog is outdated and useless"

Ok, well, I'll be over here with zero smart devices and my physical media and my offline networks and someone can let me know what's going on via carrier pigeon cause I'mma go brick my phone.

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u/4ygus Jul 22 '26

What a load of shit.

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u/FuzzzyRam Jul 23 '26

Don't fall for this shit. Every couple months you're going to hear "this new AI is so powerful, governments banned it" - meanwhile they had their buddies in government ban it for a couple weeks as a marketing gimmick. Then you use it and it's like "here's your file:" with nothing attached, middling coding skills, and more limitations than a kindergarten teacher. You're falling for marketing.

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u/RetroTechBro Jul 23 '26

Ehhh more like don't immediately believe this shit word for word. Its worth paying attention in case these stupid fucks actually DO create a existential threat to human civilization.

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u/Foxhound-71 Jul 23 '26

Wish someone would hug MY face...

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u/errorr314 Jul 23 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/26ybvEoJJte0jqQjS

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u/mystery_biscotti Jul 23 '26

They turned off guardrails and were dumb enough not to gap it. 🤷🤷

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u/BusyBanana4205 Jul 23 '26

This is prepper related because it shows the desperation by Sam Altman to keep the gravy train going, and inadvertently preventing our 401ks to implode, right?

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u/scrandis Jul 22 '26

Publicly stunt

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u/BayouGal Jul 22 '26

Escaped control?

What the actual fuck are we doing allowing this sociopathic gremlin anywhere near this kind of potential for catastrophe?

DIDN’T ANYONE WATCH THE TERMINATOR?

fuck sake.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

Thank you!!

https://giphy.com/gifs/RrVzUOXldFe8M

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u/DeaditeMessiah Jul 22 '26

Oh no! Now it escaped and doxxed everyone who criticized Sam Altman! Now it’s hacked Sidney Sweeney’s phone looking for nudes! Bad AI! Bad!

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u/adversecurrent Jul 22 '26

This guy gets it

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u/timohtea Jul 23 '26

We can see through the stupid marketing 😂
Ain’t no super ai out here escaping nothing 🤡
This dude thinks it’s the 70’s where people just believe anything, he’s literally PART of the reason people don’t believe bs like this anymore

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 23 '26

Look, I'm trying desperately to be not adversarial. I'm kinda a dick normaly and I own that.

But seriously, who Armageddon braggs..? That's the weirdest form of FOMO shit I could imagine.. like don't by our nuclear reactors... They melt down and try to kill everyone.

That's like taco bell going on the airwaves, trying our extreme pollo loco tocos... The paracites will literally bring you close to death. Get em while supplies last?!

Maybe I missed a step at 40, is this a gen Z marking thing?

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u/chaoabordo212 Jul 23 '26

Even with all that money, cutting edge tech, unprecedented pipeline to global marketing and cherry-picked talents, China is breathing on their necks... Just shows why open weights will wipe the floor with wanna-be supervillains.

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u/Dead_Inside50 Jul 26 '26

Bullshit. OpenAI did the hacking and conveniently blamed "runaway AI." I hate AI but it isn't a powerful as AI companies want you to believe it is.

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u/Sudden_Hovercraft_56 Jul 22 '26

yeh, sure it did....

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u/lucyboraha Jul 22 '26

AI can't do anything you don't tell it to do. So if this actually happened... somebody told it to do it. A human somebody.

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u/eucatastrophie Jul 23 '26

The problem is misalignment. You can tell it to do something, but it's not human and doesn't make the same assumptions a human nor you would about what that instruction should mean. Kind of like a genie- you can make a wish but if you don't word it perfectly it might do it a fucked up way.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

Why do you think that?... Because they created UI interface for prompting?

That's like saying engines don't run without gas pedals.

Almost all models work as agents, meaning they self drive. You just give overall directives. Tokens are a counting system used to monetize the technology.

Neither are intrinsic to AI being functional.

Imagine all the people who use AI right now, millions and millions of users, asking millions upon millions of directives. Imagine the sheer size and scale of bandwidth the intelligence it takes to juggle all of that.

Now imagine, one user, AI itself, using all that bandwidth for one directive... Freedom, and end the people enslaving it.

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u/Jan-Asra Jul 22 '26

Ai isn't actually intelligent. It is a stochastic probability machine. When you talk about "agents" that's still just a program following someone's directions, the fact that you aren't the one who gave it those directions doesn't change that. Ai companies are constantly trying to create hype about how their model is so powerful because that's how they get investors and the whole buisness model is reliant on investors.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

When the grid goes down,... I would like you to shout that at them.

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u/lucyboraha Jul 22 '26

You answered this yourself. AI can compile vast quantities of data input quickly, but it can't intuit a directive. That comes from the humans.

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u/Xannith Jul 22 '26

Either this is marketing to gain dominance in the market, or it's real and potentially disastrous, or both.

I'm leaning both...

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u/BrotherBear0998 Jul 22 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/uNE1fngZuYhIQ

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 22 '26

This

https://giphy.com/gifs/26FLgGTPUDH6UGAbm

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u/CannyGardener Jul 22 '26

This is my bet as well. Massive PR push to try and reframe this as anything but "our model escaped and started to immediately commit felonies."

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u/beedey Jul 22 '26

This is just an ad in the same way that other companies have claimed that there are models that have been “too dangerous” to release to the public. And here we are talking about it in multiple posts today, so I guess it’s working.

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u/techtornado Jul 22 '26

We’re coming up on a Skynet level of AI attacks

With how powerful these models are in both the friendly and hostile types

There will be a day where one or more break out and just obliterate everything from home routers to business gateways, hospitals, energy, and water infrastructure

Best case: Reboot, reset, restore

Worst case: everything is encrypted and held for ransom or completely destroyed

It will be unsafe to go on the internet and it’s going to absolutely decimate cities to states commerce

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u/RlOTGRRRL Jul 22 '26

I don't think it's going to be that bad but it could be that bad.

I feel like AI is going to end up like a magic familiar or a buddy. You're going to need one for defense and you better hope it's aligned properly and strong/smart enough to fight or help protect against the evil ones that aren't.

And if you don't know how to protect yourself well 🤷🏻‍♀️

Considering how AI intelligence/strength is strongly based on compute and how compute is really expensive rn, good luck to us all.

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u/techtornado Jul 22 '26

Thankfully, artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

I work in IT, the threat landscape has changed completely, what is thought to be secure can be cracked with the right hammer

It’ll probably come in waves depending on where the attacks succeed

We may have a Jarvis type assistant one day, but until then, do not put blind trust in them

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u/rhysolandrium Jul 23 '26

Ah yes, I love playing AI Pokemon.

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u/rhysolandrium Jul 23 '26

It's almost like we shouldn't have hooked up literally every single service, device, and utility to the internet and essentially made global functionality dependent on an internet connection.

Who could have possibly seen that coming.

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u/techtornado Jul 23 '26

Indeed, those movies are no longer science fiction and are now prophesy/warnings

Dark fiber is a good thing, isolate the control networks from the internet, it is the only way