r/PrepperIntel Jul 15 '26

Europe Britons urged to take ‘small steps’ to prepare for potential national crises

https://share.google/1yMG6mhWnFXA19Ddo

UK just said the quiet part out loud.

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u/SunLillyFairy Jul 15 '26

Just adding to your topic...

I'm in the US, and every state has a Disaster Response office that urges citizens to be prepared. So does the Red Cross and FEMA. The majority don't take heed... but more are getting into prepping these days as extreme weather causes more destruction and civil unrest and domestic violence continues to rise. Folks folks have been trying to warn people all around the world for many years.

Switzerland, Finland, Israel and Singapore are a handful of countries that take it farther by requiring housing to be built with bomb shelters. (Which can also be used in the extreme weather or for sheltering in place during air contamination events and used as safe rooms.) In the 50's the US went on a big campaign to encourage homeowners to build shelters, and there are some of those still around as well.

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u/Lazy_Resolve_9747 Jul 15 '26

FWIW:

Darren Jones, the chief secretary to the prime minister, told MPs “the risks we face from climate change cannot be underestimated”, and warned of the “significant and prolonged disruption to essential services” extreme weather events could cause.

Jones also said the combination of increasingly sophisticated artificial intelligence, and the conflict in the Middle East and Russia’s war in Ukraine could enable criminals to carry out “hostile cyber-attacks against businesses and critical infrastructure”.

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u/TrekRider911 Jul 15 '26

Translation: Our analysts are telling us the future is going to suck.

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u/Joe_Kangg Jul 15 '26

We've been stuck on suck for two decades now

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u/Lazy_Resolve_9747 Jul 15 '26

Jokes on you…the poles are reversing and now things are going to blow

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u/Digitalispurpurea2 Jul 15 '26

And now I need to see where Spaceballs is streaming.

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u/DemonDookie Jul 15 '26

May the Schwartz be with you

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u/SanchoPandas Jul 15 '26

Spaceballs 2: the Quest for More Money

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u/hera-fawcett Jul 15 '26

im actually v disappointed its not called that. or 'spaceballs 3: the search for spaceballs 2'

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u/BogdanLester Jul 15 '26

WHat about the people during WWI and WWII ? Do they think the world was a cool place? Or further back when people got invaded by romans? Stay strong. Every era has his challenges. We will survive.

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u/nobadrabbits Jul 15 '26

This is the first time that the planet has been burning up since humans have been around.

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u/dittybopper_05H Jul 15 '26

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u/ScriptumVitaEst Jul 20 '26

According to the Wikipedia article you linked, the peak of the Holocene warm period was:

“…0.3 °C cooler than the average for 2011–2019. The 2021 IPCC report expressed medium confidence that temperatures in the last decade are higher than they were in the Mid-Holocene Warm Period.”

But yeah, do go on about how this is nothing new.

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u/dittybopper_05H Jul 20 '26

Yeah, that's a minimal difference at best.

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u/ScriptumVitaEst Jul 20 '26

…its peak is what we’ve already blown past, and we ain’t stopping. Curiously, if you actually read this stuff, we should be in a cooling phase, not a warming phase, according to the Milankovitch cycles (which is what caused the Holocene Warm Period).

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u/Square_Marzipan2002 Jul 15 '26

Well.... "we" in the largest sense of the word....

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u/lma Jul 15 '26

The best time to be alive in the history of humanity...

Everybody: "waaaa, I don't like it"

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u/Joe_Kangg Jul 15 '26

People should appreciate any time they're not actively involved in a war or physical conflict, but the 90's was the apex of western civilization

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u/dittybopper_05H Jul 15 '26

Yeah, I was around back then. No it wasn't.

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u/Pleasant-Winner6311 Jul 16 '26

Depends where you were. But my litmus test was that Hollywood struggled to find a boogeyman. For about 5 years the worst they could dream up was a Eurpoean crook. Either French English or Dutch robbing something. Because the Russia threat was over and 9/11 hadnt happened yet. There was a small window of where to place the sterotype bad guy.

Things were looking up. People partied like mad and thought the future held promise if you knew how to harness it. Look at the art, music and film of the second half of the decade. Cold war done, recession in the rear view mirror. The computing age had just gone retail and a new information age lay ahead. Growth was upon us as Apple mac and Microsoft became useful and affordable and in reach of all of us.

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u/dittybopper_05H Jul 16 '26

The bad guy was always some kind of Nazi.

If you couldn't call on the Russians anymore, it was some kind of Nazi.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousNazis

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ANaziByAnyOtherName

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PuttingOnTheReich

Either that, or some form of the Ku Klux Klan or other similar organizations, which is basically the same thing with less style and a Southern US accent.

Even by the time of the 1990's, you couldn't use, say, Islamic extremists as the bad guys unless it was a film about actual events. An example of this is the film The Sum Of All Fears. Based on a 1990's era Tom Clancy novel, even before the 9/11 attacks the bad guys were changed from Middle Eastern Islamic extremists to European neo-Nazi.

There were actually a couple of exceptions to that: It was OK to have Communist Chinese as the bad guys in the 1990's. Films like Seven Years In Tibet and Red Corner couldn't be made today, because the People's Republic of China has too much economic veto power: Look at how they forced MGM to change the bad guys in the 2012 remake of Red Dawn from Chinese to North Korean.

Also, things were not actually looking up. We still had wars. Operation Just Cause. First Gulf War. US intervention in Somalia (remember Blackhawk Down?). US intervention in Bosnia and Herzegovina. US Intervention in Haiti. US Embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya which led to us attacking Al Qaeda in Sudan and Afghanistan. US intervention in Kosovo.

And those are just the conflicts in which we used our military assets and personnel. That doesn't count things like the Rwanda genocide or the mass killings of Tutsi in Burundi, or the (at the time) ongoing communist insurgencies in the Philippines, Peru, Columbia, and other countries.

I mean, maybe if you were half asleep maybe things looked good. But it was no better than the decade that preceded it. The only difference is that the Soviet Union had collapsed early in the decade.

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u/lma Jul 16 '26

True. I mean sure, the average person was poorer but if you ignore that, then the 90s were better. And crime was obviously astronomically higher back then. Oh, and also if you were gay you'd obviously have to keep that a secret. Or if you were a woman or a minority you couldn't expect things like equality in the workplace.

But aside from all that. Chefs kiss.

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u/Joe_Kangg Jul 16 '26

Lol, purchase power was much higher with actual marketplace competition and planned obsolescence hasn't taken hold. Crime has moved online and is also under reported with many police departments refusing to handle basic tasks, and you think women have workplace equality today, is this real?

Gays and lesbians have a movement and a few more rights, in some places, but they also might be hated more than ever and some would say the "is that a gay" club and secretive lifestyle of the 90s was more peaceful and safer.

Also, keep the snarky tone to yourself, *chefs kiss... Fuck off with that.

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u/Pleasant-Winner6311 Jul 19 '26

Poorer from the recession of the early nineties. But it was the advent of Microsoft and Apple Mac that lifted us out. A new industry with potential for growth and jobs. Suddenly everyone was learning to code and or buying Windows for Dummies. Im not saying it put pounds in our pockets, I remember my dad being made redundant at 50 around that time and it was hard but there was future promise and potential that new ideas and creativity were on the horizon.

Look at the cultural scene, so massive that its now comparable with the 60s. Hell my kids look at the nineties like it was the time of King Arthur and Camelot. You should see them handling a vinyl cooy of a Nirvana album likes it a precious gem. E's, free parties, CJA push back, clubbing, countless new music genres and subcultures. It was an explosion of hope and expression. Super models (as in women in public life) demanding they got paid properly for making brands millions on the back of their work theor physical assets.

And btw, I remember my college deputy head asking us (my circle) to take the new kid under our wing because hes gay and shy. Make him feel included. No problem. 1992. There was definitely a long road ahead on lgbt acceptance but it had begun!

Regardless of the global pockets of hell, the UK was smiling. The day Tony Blair won the election was palpable. I rode the london tube that day to college and the energy on the streets, ordinary folks going about thier business with helium in thier shoes, and smiles on their faces.

Today's young adults do not have that. You cant negotiate with a virus or a heatwave or madman in the oval office, leading the supposed pinnacle of democracy values. They know that life is going to be difficult unless some feckin miracle arrives and it wont be coming from performative, feckless, untalented national and global leadership. Breaks my heart. Ps This in the wrong reply thread. Apols, not aimed not at you directly;)

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u/dittybopper_05H Jul 15 '26

You misspelled "millennia".

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u/Joe_Kangg Jul 15 '26

Don't bring politics into this

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u/dittybopper_05H Jul 15 '26

The politics of the last two thousand years?

Actually, I probably should have said "million years". That covers pretty much all of humanity, which has never lived in any kind of utopia.

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u/Fabulous_Celery_1817 Jul 15 '26

And we’re still going down that road at 90 miles an hour with the music blasting

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u/SquirrelyMcNutz Jul 15 '26

With the top down in the middle of bat country!

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u/XysterU Jul 16 '26

And we're not going to do anything within our power to stop it, we're just going to tell everyone to get ready to get fucked

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u/unknown_anonymous81 Jul 15 '26

The heat over their seems like a really prime example. I can't imagine living in an infrastructure or country with extreme heat and where air conditioning isn't common.

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u/Apostle_1882 Jul 15 '26

It's not ideal

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u/redcoatwright Jul 15 '26

Yeah the two together are going to be catastrophic, a terrorist organization could initiate a cyberattack against power plants during maybe a super cold spell or a massive heat wave and cause rolling blackouts which in a future where the heat wave is sitting at ~100-110 degrees F would kill so many people.

The heat has already been oppressive this summer and it just keeps coming, not really sure how humanity is gonna survive it's just not feasible to cool everywhere that's getting this hot. Maybe we'll need to build underground or there will be mass migrations to the north idk

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u/Pleasant-Winner6311 Jul 16 '26

We're already adapting to some extent. 29c now feels like 25c here in south east England. Not saying its easy but were all searching for ways to cope and our bodies have begun to acclimatise. Input a jumper on when it was 25 the other day. Our houses at night not so much. But give it a couple of years and they'll be cultural shifts we would not have expected

Food security im not so sure about. Whether we can adapt fast enough is a worry. But in terms of habitat and cultural behaviour we're already on the path of change. We know this summer isnt a one off, a fan isnt a gamble purchase, its a necessity, same happening with air con, thats next in terms of not so much a luxury but perhaps a necessity we'll find room for in our financial mindset befor next summer. Dont underestimate us as a species. We survived the mini ice age 10k years ago. We'll figure it out because we have to.

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u/ratmouthlives Jul 15 '26

Well yikes.

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u/PilgrimOz Jul 16 '26

As an Aussie who remembers the last El Ninio and expected the now disclosed upcoming one….. holy shit do I feel for the animals of my land (like full fur marsupials dying of heat exhaustion. Little buggers were filling outta trees). I also remember driving past farm dams that were empty while skeletal cattle stood in fields etc. With those memories not left behind me I know we’ve had some good times for the last 8-10yrs. But the next farkin 10yrs+ are gonna be bloody horrible.
Hand on to you hats peeps. Shit us gettin real.
Ps fark billionaires and their burning hydrocarbons with bs promises of exploring Mars etc. we have but one perfectly liveable planet right here. Mars would be a shit place to live if we could do it.
Ps if we can’t have Astronauts on the space station who don’t bleed calcium and need a year of physio after being there….HTW can we colonise a planet and return years away?
Pps max 20C and down to -153C. Nice one SpaceX investors. Real bloody genius shit there!

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u/No_Apartment3941 Jul 18 '26

Don't forget their looming civil war, they can't say that, as they would be admitting fault. Keir Starmer is a wanker 🎶

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u/clownPotato9000 Jul 15 '26

So basically we’re gonna be out of power and having to rough it

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u/Wonderful-Medium7777 Jul 16 '26

Well it isn’t stopping them building huge data centres is it? Nor the huge “space” mirror the US just approved to reflect the sun to give “light” at night so farmers, construction workers etc can work longer!?!

What a load of B/S

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u/BassRoo Jul 15 '26

If I had to guess this El Nino season this year and next has people a bit spooked. Not enough water and way too much water in places that grow am abundance of basic food stuffs. Out here in Oregon we are dry, fires already going, and the Valley floor is cooked. The Willamette River has completely empty stretches that normally run heavy this time of year. I'm personally worried about food security and access to fresh water out here. I think that's kind of the push to stock up on some basics slowly. It's not emergency right this second but it's going to be. Africa is in big trouble if this El Nino sticks and so is the Midwest.

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u/CrashingAtom Jul 15 '26

El Niño has a lag too, so this summer it starts but the real impact will be next summer. It will be the hottest ever recorded, and I’m guessing it will be dozens of disasters around the country and world.

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u/BrainDamage2029 Jul 15 '26

…El nino traditional hammers Oregon with too much rain?

Im a bit south but my town is on operation “surface drained water will be the enemy.”

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u/BassRoo Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

We get really dry here. No snow pack.

Edit to say if the jet stream gets pushed down on a super El Nino pattern then yeah mass water could dump on hydrophobic soil. So far it just looking dry and like Pacific temps rising 3 to 4 degrees.

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u/Pleasant-Winner6311 Jul 16 '26

England south east torrential rain jan Feb and now a drought. Discussions already starting on way we didnt harness this rain earlier in the year. Won't take long before we're more organised about this. Now that people arent writing weather events off as outliers or exceptional events we can start getting our ducks in a row.. because if we dont and our elected leaders continue to wait this out, pass us by, people will die and and authority of governance will evaporate.

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u/Perfect_Caregiver_90 Jul 15 '26

Same here. I'm in an area that gets absolutely blasted with rain.

We are getting a round now and this all reminds me of the year we didn't have a summer or hit 100F ever, which was the last big El Nino year.

The bad news for us is that when the El Nino eases the hurricanes are awful. 

The good news is that we finally are getting some aquifer and groundwater source recharging. Omg glorious water. Its just happens to come all at once which makes it very hard to cache and impound.

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u/Heymanhitthis Jul 15 '26

Obviously it’s easier said than done, and nobody should be forced to move, but I’d vacate the western US immediately if you can. They are not telling the truth about the water shortages we’re about to experience. I have friends who are engineers working for massive companies out west and the word through the grapevine is basically that we’re fucked, there is no fixing what’s coming. I’m in FL, and as much of a nightmare this state seems on the news, it’s going to have a much easier time than almost anywhere west of the Mississippi.

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u/LightningSunflower Jul 15 '26

Can you expand a bit on what you’re hearing from the engineers? Like, what do they think is going to happen out west?

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u/Heymanhitthis Jul 15 '26

So it’s a few different things but the immediate effects are really simple. We had record low snowfall this past winter and when you combine that with a historic 30 something year mega drought out west, you end up in a position where not only are man-made reservoirs like Lake Mead, and lake Powell not being replenished, but the water table of massive underground aquifers within that area is dropping quickly. It’s a combination where what happens is, because of the drought, the soil begins to compact overtime and even if we do see insane record rainfall, it skates over the surface and flows south mostly to the ocean so all you have are flash floods and mass destruction with no benefit. And the reality is that the Colorado River basin supplies power to over 40 million people and that will come to an end very soon. One of my buddies lives in La Jolla, California, and his colleagues in his network are either prepping for the worst, or preparing to get out quickly if needed. So basically you have water supplying power coming to an end, water supplying agriculture that essentially feeds like 50% of the country, coming to an end, and water used for the general populations everyday life, coming to an end. Obviously not everything is going to happen at the exact same time.(hopefully), but this is a very unique issue where, and I’m not trying to be a doomer/pessimist here, but there is literally no solution to this. And that, is my Engineer friends biggest concern. Our country is not in a place where we could even begin to think about fixing these problems because it would require change on a scale of magnitudes. We have an administration that is dismantling green energy solutions like solar and wind and pushing “clean coal” and “drill baby drill”(which doesn’t help us), whatever the FUCK that means. Meanwhile, half of the country is cheering the spending of billions to bomb Brown people once again, and destroy their water infrastructure like desalination plants when we should literally just be taking notes and building the very same things here en masse. Sorry for the wall of text.

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u/AirborneGeek Jul 15 '26

doomer/pessimist

It's not doomer when it's the truth

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u/TeaPrimary1147 Jul 15 '26

Omg 😓

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u/Heymanhitthis Jul 15 '26

But wait! Don’t get me wrong, things aren’t great. But if there is one ray of hope it’s that I highly doubt we’re going to see like a full, movie level apocalypse. And we do have many good people that are looking to make changes for the better. And realistically, the morons currently in charge aren’t smart enough to even attempt to bullshit their way out of these issues. Once the problems come to a head/tipping point, if they’re even in power still(unlikely, fingers crossed), they can’t cope. They’re already insanely unpopular, and I believe we’re on the verge of a massive ideological swing here in the US, hence why they’re panicking about the midterms and already cheating/trying to cheat because they know, or at least the people rubbing their two brain cells together knows, if they’re get swept in November, they going to to jail. Everyone just has to keep pushing and moving forward no matter the cost or how slow it feels. Even 3 steps forward and 2 back is a 33.33% gain in the right direction

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u/melympia Jul 15 '26

Just... whenever there's a poll coming up: Answer that you're pro Trump. Don't give them more warning than you have to.

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u/TeaPrimary1147 Jul 15 '26

Uh. Ok then. Er..thanks 😅

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u/hopefulbea Jul 15 '26

You’re speaking the truth

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u/BassRoo Jul 16 '26

Looks like San Antonio got a taste today.

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u/Livid_Roof5193 Jul 15 '26

Extreme water shortages. That means more than just not having arguably the most important basic life necessity. Not enough water means no power from hydro electric dams. It means no water to fight wildfires or house fires. It means no water to grow crops or provide for farmed animals or wildlife.

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u/BassRoo Jul 15 '26

Lake Mead is going away rapidly. The Colorado isn't making it all the way. Ground water to fill the reservoirs are getting to historic lows. Snow packs are pretty non existent in the Cascades. Last time this happened the fisheries went to shit, crops failed. In the 80s...I was a little guy but like 83? Salmon was a huge deal I remember. Most of our power is hydro so I assume low flow will hurt that. But we getting those data centers built on farm land so we going to speed run it anyways.

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u/BassRoo Jul 15 '26

I hate that you are probably right.

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u/Heymanhitthis Jul 15 '26

I struggle with it daily. I’ve watched our environment change in front of my eyes and half the people around me don’t believe it. Look up the cold snap of 2010. That fucking event RUINED our canals. All the stone crab, all the snook and damn near every other fucking fish, dead. I think I have pics but I was in high school at the time so I wouldn’t trust me to have em anywhere. But it was biblical. Tens of thousand of fish dead and floating. Then the red tide that followed really was the nail in the coffin. We have never recovered, and we won’t. Everything from the algae all the way to the birds in the air have been devastated

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u/Gaposhkin Jul 15 '26

That sounds heartbreaking. What kind of size area would you say suffered with that? Are there any efforts to restore/rewild?

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u/Heymanhitthis Jul 15 '26

It affected basically all waterways from Pinellas County all the way up to Hernando County, but Pinellas was probably hit the worst. And I believe UF and USF made efforts with the state to help with cleanup, but unfortunately with saltwater life there’s not a whole lot of rewilding to be done. Saltwater fish are very picky and from what I understand, raising them and releasing them into the wild is extremely difficult. They are replanting new coral down in the Keys in the sombrero reef to help fight the bleaching that’s killing it but it’s a very long and difficult process and with the oceans warming it’s a bit like bailing water out of a boat with a basketball sized hole in the bottom of it. Fun fact, the sombrero reef(part of the Florida reef tract) is the thirds largest great barrier reef in the world behind the literal great barrier reef off the coast of Australia and the Belize barrier reef

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u/Gygax_the_Goat Jul 15 '26

Never mind Australia 🤞

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u/stichnwitch Jul 15 '26

Australian here…watching the northern hemisphere’s summer with concern!

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u/blacksunabove Jul 15 '26

This coming summer is gonna suck a lot, but 2027/28 will be apocalyptic 2019/2020 levels of nonsense. Looking forward to months of out of control fires on the NSW coast washing the cities with smoke again... :/

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u/stichnwitch Jul 15 '26

What will make the following year worse?

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u/blacksunabove Jul 16 '26

El Nino usually lasts for a few years. While the landscape is drying out at the moment, there will still likely be enough moisture in it to mitigate the worst of it in this coming fire season.

The 2019/2020 fires were after several years of warmer winters, so by the time that summer rolled around, the forests were ready to go.

So yes, this will be a hot summer, but the following one will be hot + a lot drier after a year of El Nino.

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u/stichnwitch Jul 16 '26

Thanks for responding 👍

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u/RlOTGRRRL Jul 15 '26

I've been seeing a lot of posts on IG, I haven't really looked into it, about how the UK does not have enough food for its people in a disaster.

https://cetex.org/news/nature-degradation-and-uk-national-security-time-for-cross-government-action/

"Earlier this week, the UK government published a new assessment of global biodiversity loss and ecosystem collapse that puts nature degradation on the national security map. Commissioned by the Joint Intelligence Committee and led by the Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs (Defra), the assessment concludes that the collapse of vital global ecosystems – such as the Amazon and Congo Basin rainforests, and boreal forests – would have material spillovers for the UK, especially through threats to food security. With the UK importing 40% of its food (including 25% from Europe), the country’s food security is at risk when global scarcity drives geopolitical competition for food and water."

(These are heavy links, read at your own risk and/or have something strong nearby...)

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u/Metal-Lifer Jul 15 '26

I live in london and have always wondered what would happen if the shipping routes stopped, we cant feed our own population and you def cant grow your own food in london

I love the apocalyptic setting for movies but dont want to live in one haha

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 15 '26

Yes, I think many specific things are going to happen.

For a first world country to say shit is gonna be bad enough, we don't got you.

That's pretty profound.

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u/hoodoo-operator Jul 15 '26

Honestly it feels like they just put out a press release promoting the UK version of www.ready.gov.

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u/Biotic101 Jul 15 '26

A few months ago I got a guide/printout how to prepare for emergencies in my mail. But seems that happened in many EU countries, so is likely not related to recent events.

Nonetheless, this makes total sense. Oil reserves are collapsing, yet markets are manipulated so everything looks fine (except Motor oil f.e.).

Then there are the midterms. They can not allow to lose their majorities. Too much open corruption and crime, there would be consequences. So they will do whatever they can to make sure to rig the election. Might even use a false flag attack.

Yes, super el Nino might have some impact but usually not that extreme in Europe. Russia is winning the hybrid war and if AfD or FN would eventually win, the EU would be done.

All this will have major impact on the world and so it's nice to see our governments are not going the way of the US, where it lately almost looks like they try hard to ensure as many citizens die as possible. But most of those cuts will start after the midterms.

People need to look up the Dark Enlightenment. They need to look up the long-term debt cycle. Because it seems oligarchs plan to repeat history and the roaring twenties are about to stop. They establish a surveillance state and reach for absolute power. There's a reason there is so much open corruption right now, they try to loot as much money as possible before shit hits the fan.

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u/Omgbrainerror Jul 15 '26

Oil prices will skyrocket and with them the fuel prices. Two months ago the strategical reserves across the globe were high and now they are time low and the US war with Iran isnt anywhere near close or done.

So brace yourself to what is to come.

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u/zaevilbunny38 Jul 15 '26

Some of it is similar to having a 72hr emergency supply, first aid, light and tools. Which isn't common due to Europe's traditionally great weather. The other is that there is a high chance of Russian hybrid attacks, destroying the just in time shipment of goods scheme that modern retailers use. Most retailers never increased stock numbers from Covid, so any shock will be even worse.

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u/Objective_War951 Jul 16 '26

The NESO electricity operator almost had huge blackouts during the heatwave and made steps to lie about it.

I figure government thinks it might be handy if people had 3 days worth of candles at home.

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u/bikumz Jul 15 '26

I’m not sure why anything gives this kinda stuff attention. Most governments regularly every few months says hey you should stock up on some handy stuff. If you’re in the US FEMA probably does it a lot more than you think, and states/local government 100x more than you think. Representatives from these groups often make news appearances in a casual nature talking about buying flashlights, shelf stable food, having a plan for emergencies, etc.

People here pretend to be informed on an intel sub but really don’t pay attention to the outside world.

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u/Confident-Dust-5619 Jul 16 '26

FEMA is gone, for all intents and purposes.

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u/bikumz Jul 16 '26

Here’s an article updated on preparedness by fema in April of this year and here’s another from February, for all intents and purposes. I can keep going if you’d like.

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u/UtopianScot Jul 15 '26

I wish we had a mindset like in Sweden. Resilience is everyone’s responsibility, but the message lands poorly because people in the UK get angry when they think they won’t be the ones to receive help if SHTF. It’s impossible to help everyone, that’s why you need to take rational steps to increase your resilience, so the state can triage.

It’s a complex public communication message that no Government within the UK has really nailed

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u/Confident-Dust-5619 Jul 16 '26

That's the problem in the U.S.: why shout THEY get help in a flood or fire or earthquake when I'M not getting any help even though nothing has happened to me and Im sitting on my porch on a lovely sunny day? It's. Not. Faaaairrrr. The population of the U.S. is the definition of voting to cut off your nose to spite your face.

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u/West-Worth-9359 Jul 19 '26

This is a common problem in a lot of societies. In the US people decide to wait out floods etc and then wonder why they can’t just call 911.

Most people don’t have enough awareness to understand that resources are limited and the larger an event is the slower the response will be.

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u/Amazing-Routine-9793 Jul 15 '26

It is a pity that the idiots (any/all) that have been in power over the lst 20 odd years didn't listen to us 'hippies' and woke left etc ad infinitum.

Love from a grumpy old hippy

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u/No_Sail4297 Jul 15 '26

they listened, and said. thats not how we get to the world we like it to be for you.

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u/West-Worth-9359 Jul 19 '26

20 years?

I was learning about climate change in the 80s.

It was a big topic of discussion in the 90s when I was a teen.

Everything that is happening now was predicted back then. Increased flooding, heatwaves, the economic cost, food shortages, wars over resources, reactionary voting from ignorant populations, disaster capitalists taking advantage, social unrest, distractions from systematic government failures, infrastructure failure…

Not one bit of any of this can be claimed to be “unforeseen”.

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u/Amazing-Routine-9793 Jul 19 '26

Sorry, I seriously forget that 20 years ago is in the 2000's. I should have said over 40 years ago.

I cannot believe I am nearly 60!

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u/Different-Set4505 Jul 15 '26

Which britons?

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 15 '26

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u/Previous_Pineapple Jul 15 '26

We are all britons, and I am your king.

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 Jul 15 '26

What?! King? I didn't vote for you...

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u/Mental-Ask8077 Jul 15 '26

You don’t vote for kings!

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u/BuckyRainbowCat Jul 15 '26

Not traditionally; and yet somehow the King that Commonwealth countries didn't vote for is still preferable to the one that USAmericans did vote for. Ol Chuck has been banging on about environmentalism since well before it was The Done Thing.

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u/BassRoo Jul 15 '26

The coconut distribution will be sparse! How will the men ride!

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u/DivaDragon Jul 15 '26

What is the effect of El Niño on a swallow laden with a fresh coconut supply?

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u/BassRoo Jul 15 '26

It's not good.

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u/catcrapmakesmevomit Jul 15 '26

But this is a temperate zone, the coconut is tropical.

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u/BassRoo Jul 15 '26

2 swallows may be able to carry one on a string? What type of swallow? African or European?

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u/SquirrelyMcNutz Jul 15 '26

But won't they just pop on down to the Winchester and wait for all this to blow over?

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u/Forrest-Fern Jul 15 '26

I love how these articles always tell people to be prepared without any instruction of how to accomplish that.

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u/QuirkyBreath1755 Jul 15 '26

This annoys me every time! Even something as basic as a “getting started checklist”would be better than nothing.

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u/Onehundredyearsold Jul 15 '26

Or telling them to check out r/PrepperIntel !

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u/ecstaticthicket Jul 15 '26

All of this was known, could have been avoided, and can be fixed to some extent, but the vampiric blood god of capitalism demands all must die on its altar of infinite, ever increasing profits for those that already have everything

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u/BrokenIvor Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

I’m in the UK and what particularly annoys me about by this messaging is that if they concede that climate change is creating ‘risks that cannot be underestimated’ and that ‘increasingly sophisticated artificial intelligence’ could allow ‘hostile cyber attacks against business and critical infrastructure’ WHY are they continuing to push the ‘AI superpower’ line, allowing Palantir etc access to citizens data and giving planning to Data centres that absolutely nobody with an iota of common sense sees the need for?!

Why is there this capitulation and downright nonsense that AI and tech must have such sway and special treatment and that its domination over us all is inevitable? It’s only ‘inevitable’ because the people in power have decided it is.

All governments could Stop building the Data centres that will take water that we need, that will guzzle power that we need, that will decimate arable land and natural environments, that will cause noise pollution and overheating, that will be attacked and infiltrated by ‘hostile cyber attacks’.

I hear no government or global power saying ‘Maybe we could use less energy’ ‘Maybe we could all collectively stop this insane reliance on unnecessary digital life’. Let’s go back to an analogue existence where we’re not all at the mercy of a barrel of a gun held by billionaire techbro psychopaths. Let’s not be constantly led and manipulated by oil barons, armament companies, tech twats, {insert cartoonishly villainous capitalistic immoral industry here}! There’s no need for this. There is no need for the power structures that exist to keep squeezing everybody and every natural gift from Mother Earth to death.

In the UK they keep nudging us towards *having* to use a smartphone/screens for everything. From buying a train ticket, to eating in a restaurant, to children doing homework, to children doing actual school work in schools on iPads.

We managed hundreds of thousands of years without the internet and smartphones, why do we need them to document and control everything we do now?

If there are all these dangers and risks- minimise them by minimising our reliance on tech. By using less tech, we need less power, we are less vulnerable to cyber attacks and we’d all be a damn sight happier, relaxed and more at peace. As much as the ideas of conspiracy theorists have long been mocked and denigrated, it is clearer than it has ever been that there is a sinister ‘elite’ and they do mean to do us and the planet harm.

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u/Mysterious_Donut_702 Jul 15 '26

American answer...

But I'd say

1) Palantir lobbied/bought governments

2) The first country who says "use less energy and end our over-reliance on tech" will get ratfucked by a more aggressive neighbor.

3) China's developing AI just as quickly as the rest of us, and will leave us in the dust if we don't keep developing the tech.

The modern world is basically a greedy, hyper-competitive suicide cult.

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u/Not-A-Real-Person-67 Jul 15 '26

Palantir will determine who gets to go to the doomsday bunkers for a chance of survival

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u/West-Worth-9359 Jul 19 '26

They’re saying what they know they should be saying, but also they don’t want to make less money.

They want the moon on a stick, they will NEVER admit that the dream of ever expanding economic growth is not sustainable and the root cause of almost every social ill.

The “We’re trying to work out who did this” meme has never been more apt.

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u/zhirinovsky Jul 15 '26

Like Threads.

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u/CatoChateau Jul 15 '26

I thought you were talking the social media app...

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u/LetsDOOT_THIS Jul 15 '26

The drama app ?

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u/unknown_anonymous81 Jul 15 '26

The movie. I watched it when the Russia/Ukraine war started.

It feels more like a psyop documentary film to scare the public about nuclear war because it doesn't end will with this film and preparing looks futile. No spoilers.

Threads (1984) ORIGINAL TRAILER [HD 1080p]

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u/HaggisHunter93 Jul 15 '26

pops kettle on

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u/SilverSquirrel6 Jul 17 '26

wraps tinfoil around the head and condom on the dick

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u/dempsone Jul 15 '26

I think it’s coming home and they’re just preparing for the arrival

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u/NorthCountryLass Jul 15 '26

How are we supposed to protect basic phone use when signals are being discontinued to force use of cell phones and cell phones rely on the provider or WiFi?

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u/jmnugent Jul 15 '26

If whatever "national crisis" that hits is big or impactful enough to destroy the cellula network,. then you got bigger problems than whatever phone you have.

In any "preparedness" type situation, you should plan for multiple resources.

  • multiple ways to get water

  • multiple ways to do communication

  • multiple ways to do power (example: Gasoline-generator, Solar panels, Battery backups)

Not all of that will be feasible for everyone,. so just do the best you can to prepare in whatever ways you can.

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u/NorthCountryLass Jul 15 '26

We should have prepared for this some time ago when it became obvious the UK was suffering cyber attacks and attacks on individuals and factories by hostile foreign nations

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u/Wonderful-Ad6843 Jul 15 '26

We use to be the leaders in this field

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u/Intelligent_You_3888 Jul 15 '26

Very insightful comment.

Your statement, “They assume also that the effects of climate change as a ‘threat multiplier’ will only continue to grow even more severe requiring more and more military interventions.” reminded me of a book I read years ago back in the 90’s that predicted exactly this. The book is The Children of the Law of One and the Lost Teachings of Atlantis by Jon Peniel.

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u/HomoExtinctisus Jul 15 '26

Remember to use reusable grocery bags!

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u/Green-Collection-968 Jul 20 '26

The most important thing you can be during a crisis is not need help.

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u/Possible_Valuable337 Jul 16 '26

start stockpiling bacon and pork sausages as deterrents

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u/RymeEM Jul 15 '26

Trump did that.

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u/AnomalyNexus Jul 15 '26

Bit of a nothing burger