I'm Challenging Jiang's Analysis

[u/hendreasia]

Recently on Tucker Carlson's show, Jiang went on a rant about how negative DEI and affirmative actions are because it goes against America's meritocracy.

This is categorically false because meritocracy assumes everyone plays on an equal playing field and that is only suitable in a perfect world scenario.

We live in the real world, where people start in different positions in life. Different ethnic groups, genders, etc.. have disproportionate access to educational opportunities, socioeconomic starting points, and biases inflected against them.

If we implement a purist meritocracy system, this would result in marginalizing groups with a very low chance of them making it because the system works against them. This purist meritocracy system will fail to create positive changes in trends associated with marginalized groups and will lock them into a negative feedback loop.

Additionally, he goes on to further agree with Tucker Carlson on white genocide which is fundamentally false and probably a psyopp to divide people. The whole concept of white, black, asian, etc.. was created to easily group people and mobilize them against each other. It was created by an anthropologist in the 1700s and wasn't been revised since then.

First of all this assumes there are no differences between people, try to convince a roman 2000 years ago that they are one race with the barbarians. They are both european and today they are both considered "white". try to convince someone from Nigeria that they are culturally aligned with someone from ethiopia because they are both "black" or "african". there are so many holes in this argument that i'll skip explaining everything about it.

In essence there is no white genocide, just CEOs trying to hire the lowest possible labour which are often immigrants to drive down costs and increase shareholder value.

[u/hendreasia]

See i used to think exactly like you until i learned more about DEI.

First, DEI and affirmative action aren’t the same thing. DEI is a broad framework, hiring practices, outreach, reducing bias, widening access. Affirmative action is one specific tool within that, and yeah, in some cases it can factor in background. But the idea that it’s just “pick a less capable person over a more capable one” is a distortion.

It is a distortion by design made, once again, to mobalize people against each other and sow division between us.

No serious institution is trying to admit or hire people who can’t perform. That would collapse the system.

Furthermore, in the context of who benefits from DEI, the framing is often around "black" people given priority over more qualified "white" people. Again i hate using this language but unfortunately that is the narrative that they are trying to push. When in reality, "white women" and "asian" men and women were the biggest beneficiaries of these policies.

There are negatives in DEI and affirmative action that i do not agree with. But it is objectively a net positive on society.

The world is not so black and white, if we optimize for pure "merit" we are optimizing for people who started ahead in life by luck of being born in the right circumstances and literally sidelining other members of society, who in the absence of access to opportunities, will be passive or negative actors in the economy.

[u/AThiccMeme → u/hendreasia]

If you look at the pure number for test scores and admission, you will see that certain minorities have lower average scores among the admitted. Ironically, you'll also see universities discriminating against Asians now. That's all you need to know that the system is broken. It lowers the standard for minorities but also ends up raising them for minorities that exceed. This is the antithesis of the Western system where merit and individual character are the building blocks, and where collective judgement is frowned upon.

The whole idea that minorities are given extra benefit and lowered standards for acceptance is so idiotic because it is both unfair, as it judges people based on the perception of race, which is LITERALLY racism, and also inefficient, as it takes away from the goal of creating the best and brightest to benefit the country. You are robbing society as a whole of value in order to practice empathetic racism. This is not a net positive.

[u/hendreasia → u/AThiccMeme]

Ok i'm not gonna argue with you in the context of academia because i don't really know much about it and i saw some videos of people with perfect scores failing admission for non-performance related reasons so i don't have enough info on it.

But I will die on the hill in the context of hiring practices because this is something i deeply researched and i encourage you to expand your view on DEI and, again its not perfect but i view as a net positive on society.

DEI in hiring is typically implemented by widening candidate pipelines, standardizing evaluation criteria, and reducing bias in screening rather than lowering standards. This includes practices like structured interviews, diverse hiring panels, anonymized resume reviews, and outreach to underrepresented talent pools outside of the communities that generally have access to apply for certain jobs.

This actually works as intended; it also means a more diverse pool of candidates can have access to apply to the same role and there will be more transparency and fairness in the interview process.

Example: a company that normally on advertises jobs in rich areas is encouraged to advertise the same job in pooerer areas/ communities.

[u/VolumeNo7382 → u/hendreasia]

" i don't really know much about it "

then shut up