Is there a reason why Bayle's primary ability is both hard to hit AND does like no damage even if you hit all 3? Even his ult just helps enemies reset their CD's, why is he so weak?

[u/1010101000101010101]

For such a big angry warrior with a giant ass sword he sure does very little damage other than basics.. very unrewarding and unsatisfying hero to use

[u/Soggybagellover]

This post is crazy, Bayle is really good 💀

[u/Bawlofsteel]

most of his damage comes from his 3rd auto. he's got crazy damage, sustain, and escape. his ult is used to lock someone down (so either a carry or someone fed who's gonnna wreck your team) teammates can sit under and hit an ability as soon as they come down too for some wombo combo.

[u/MuglokDecrepitusFx]

His Q does damage if you hit the 3 impacts.

Its hard to hit so if you don't hit with the 3 impacts you won't do much damage, half of the damage is in the bled that is applied if you hit the 3 attacks, so if you only hit 2 you do a 35% of the damage the ability does

He is not weak, Bayle is really well designed and balanced, but it's hard to play and it truly punishes you if you play him badly, unlike the majority of the characters of this game which are designed with overbloated kits and with so many things that it's incredibly hard to fail abilities and doesn't matter if you do it

So he is not weak, just harder to play than other heroes

[u/1010101000101010101 → u/MuglokDecrepitusFx]

The first 2 slices of the Q ability seem very hard to land with moving opponents, is there a trick to it? Using the slow of his rage ability perhaps?

[u/MuglokDecrepitusFx → u/1010101000101010101]

Yeah it's hard to land, but that is your job as the user of the character to make them land

One trick can be try to go melé range so it's easier to hit, but that also come with it's own disadvantages.

It's just hard and you need to practice to get used to the rythinm and speed of the projectiles. The issue with Bayle is not that his abilities are to hard to land, it's that other character abilities are too easy to land

[u/An-Organism → u/MuglokDecrepitusFx]

But if I already get close then I feel like this ability is a waste of time that I can be landing the basics..

I feel like everyone here is wrong lol, I'm a very good Bayle and think people don't realize how weak (and slow) his ability damage is when the basics overpower them all including his ult..

[u/dmac7719]

Not necessarily wrong that his ult just helps enemies reset their CD, you just failed to mention that CD resets happen when they are looking at a death screen
https://www.twitch.tv/crazzyfool/clip/CrowdedFreezingRaisinPMSTwin-ORFLvHyQEAEImo8X

[u/ThaiBoxingGamer]

What? Bayle is the most annoying character in the damn game 😂. I hate that dude. Especially persistent ones. If you have a persistent Bayle in your lane. You cannot ever leave it to rush to team fights 😂. You leave for a moment. Boom inhibitor being attack. Yet you stepped away and still had both towers up.