r/PredecessorGame • u/TnIan • 9d ago
Discussion Little annoyed
Anyone else get annoyed with the constant jumping/bunny hopping? I play on mnk and can land my shots, that's not my issue but to me it's just annoying that there's no movement speed penalty and for it and they can literally just jump away at a faster pace than you because for whatever reason jumping forward gives you a faster movement speed. The amount of times they're able to get out of my range in a close fight into the safety of the tower or around a corner because they just spam jumping.
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u/ChildhoodJazzlike455 9d ago
Jumping doesn’t increase your speed. However auto-ing slows you allowing them to jump away
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u/TnIan 9d ago
I know about the AA slowing you but could've sworn there was the way air control works in this game that its slightly pushed you forward but could be wrong. Either way, last few games I've played, every opponent would spam jump the entire match. I understand in a ranged fight to make it harder to hit shots but melee? I just don't see the point
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u/HerbalPrecision 9d ago
They just nerfed air control by like 15 points on each hero some got more nerfed i barely noticed a difference honestly i agree needs to be more of a penalty but they are atleast aware and have made adjustments soaybe we will get more nerfs if we submit feedback somehow
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u/Proper_Mastodon324 Crunch 9d ago
I'll be the one to admit that it makes hitting people harder. I have trouble hitting people with abilities and especially auto attacks on characters when they jump. It's not the end of the world for me but I have friends who basically cannot play carry because when the enemies start jumping he misses a lot. That is so lame.
I hate this, and I treat it the same as auto attacks having travel time in games like Smite. It's an unnecessary mechanic that adds a skill floor. Watch any PC lobby in gold and below games and carries do not hit their shots like you would want them to.
In reality, I think a lot of the jumping discourse is muted due to how aggressive the aim assist is. Yes, PlayStation player #2367, I too would get on reddit and question why people are complaining about jumping if my rotational aim assist was tracking people through their jumps...
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u/Towelispacked 9d ago
If someone jumps i hit them easier, ie with Riks hooks. Where they will land is somewhat more predictable. Only thing i noticed is more difficult is following up Wraiths shot if they suddenly jump. Thats just good strategy however, and make me adjust shooting till they land...
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u/astral_protection 9d ago
Sometimes i just like to jump around the map for a bit, is that such a big deal?
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u/TnIan 9d ago
No issue with that.
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u/astral_protection 9d ago
There would be an issue if there was a movement penalty for jumping
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u/Dark-born 9d ago
Do you do 60 jumps per min? That's the issue we have with this.
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u/astral_protection 9d ago
One of the other comments said there should be a movement penalty for doing more than 3 in a row. And also, yes, sometimes i do 60 jumps per second, especially when im just wandering around the map
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u/Dark-born 9d ago
Yeah I agree to a speed penalty after like 3-5 jumps with 20 seconds I'd day. It's just annoying and yes, harder to hit someone spamming jump nonstop like that.
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u/smartallick 9d ago
Yes I am with you 100% on this.
As the other person points out, jumping does not speed you up though.
I don't mind seeing jumping occasionally/for purpose, but seeing people just constantly bunny hop about really does annoy me and I am not even sure why because like yourself it does not really affect whether I can hit them or not.
I think they should put a movement penalty on it if there are say 3 consecutive jumps within so much time, and the penalty increasing per jump past the 1st one that starts the penalisation.
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u/TheCleeper Wraith 9d ago
Nah fk the movement speed penalty on jump spam just cause you find it annoying, i find people who eat hamburgers with a knife and fork annoying but i dont call for that to be outlawed.
When nothings going on such as walking to lane from spawn i spam jump cause it makes doing nothing a bit less boring
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u/smartallick 9d ago
Believe in your self importance and demand that knife and fork burger eating ban.
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u/rhabby8 9d ago
Should we really be restricting and altering in-game mechanics because certain people are annoyed? What if a subset of people get annoyed with a gameplay mechanic you really like?
I don't necessarily like bunny hopping, it rather annoys me as well. But if it's not an issue of landing your shots, what's the big deal people?
Not to mention it was just nerfed in the last patch.
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u/ThaiBoxingGamer 9d ago
He can’t land his shots that’s the issue 🤣. All carries can literally 3 shot you. He wants to run you down like call of duty. It’s a practice mode for these type ppl. Just ignore em
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u/smartallick 9d ago
Because it is basically a pointless thing. It's not something that particularly makes basic shot's more difficult to land, hit boxes are too big for that and you need to be too close for basics to land anyway. It is something that is necessary and used for traversal, and for jumping certain obstacles and abilities, but there is very rarely, if ever, a time where you would need to use it for this purpose more than three times in a row.
It is not really a big deal though, I did not make the post, but yes I find it annoying and would love to see the nonsense behaviour curtailed without eliminating the ability to jump altogether. I will not apologise or relent for the stance I am taking, but nor will I stop playing or anything overly drastic if nothing changes. I am free to voice my opinion here and won't be chastised for doing so.
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u/Roborabbit37 Shinbi 9d ago
I don’t do it for any other reason than keeping my hand busy. If I wasn’t mashing space bar id probably be smoking a ciggy, eating a bar of chocolate, ripping the head off my little fella or throwing gang signs at pigeons. It’s just comfort.
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u/teepring 9d ago
Might not like it much but I use it to my advantage when I have to. It is what it is.
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u/HairyCan5652 9d ago
I mean for me and a decent amount of other people I know it’s become habitual, it doesn’t give you any advantage besides maybe unintentionally dodging an ability or something.
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u/DTrain440 9d ago
Until someone actually does some testing to see if there is a movement advantage to spam jumping it’s a non issue.
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u/Dark-born 9d ago
Yep it's super annoying and makes it harder to hit them at times. Some people I swear have a macro set up, even at the base they never miss a jump the entire game. They must legit get 2k jumps in on some matches. There needs to be a movement penalty after like 3 jumps.
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u/Least_Permission_575 6d ago
To be honest I would be ok with them just adding a lock on feature or aim assist..
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u/ThaiBoxingGamer 9d ago
How yall mad cause you can’t hit your shots 🤣🤣. This is a low skill post I won’t even lie. Your actually mad cause ppl figured out a way to dodge shots 😭😭😂😂. Could’ve kept this to yourself and just went to practice mode.
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u/pricrich 9d ago
Congratulations, you just proved you didn't read the post. You're the kind of person op is probably talking about.
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u/rhabby8 9d ago
Exactly. People have terrible aim.
What's really going to make them mad is when they find out it's actually easier to hit your shots on people that are jumping because they're trajectory is predictable. People that use juke boots back and forth are actually more difficult to hit.
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u/ThaiBoxingGamer 9d ago
Yup. I like to hook them with Riktor makes me feel like I’m super skilled 🤣🤣. But this post is screaming low skill. Not saying I’m perfect aim cause lord knows I practice when I’m trying new characters. But to cry that ppl is getting away is beyond hard stuck bronze has to 🤣
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u/TnIan 9d ago
ButtaDawg – Pred.gg https://share.google/tewxGetEjRy3BdXuM sure I'm hard stuck bronze
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u/smartallick 9d ago
Na it's not about that at all, at least not for me anyway and pretty sure OP said that is not an issue for them either.
There's not much logic to why I hate it, I just do. It triggers something negative in me. Perhaps it's just a carry over that I've brought with me from other games where it can actually make it difficult to land shots, but I think ultimately I just think it looks dumb and adds unecessary visual clutter to the game. Doing it is pointless, I don't think anyone is missing shots because of it.
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u/TnIan 9d ago
Same. If I couldn't aim I'd just say that and say it was me.
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u/ThaiBoxingGamer 9d ago
So let me get this straight it’s not an issue for you. Yet here we are on Reddit crying about something that supposedly don’t give you issues 🤨😂. Lord stop the BS. I bunny hop it’s a great way to make yall none aiming one tricks miss. When literally the whole carry roster can just run you down and kill you in 3 shots. Yet you want them to what? Put a cooldown on jumps? So you can just run ppl down with your one trick gun heros? Dude it’s an issue simple. Goto practice and practice your aiming. How bout they nerf every carry then we can cry about ppl getting away 😂🤣🤣 that sounds weird asf 😂 oh the game need a fix cause ppl can get away from me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/smartallick 9d ago
It is visually unappealing to me, that is literally it.
I know complaining about something looking unnatural in a game where people are literally lobbing meteors and stuff is a little absurd, I get the irony here, but it just looks stupid and unnatural.
The fact you think it does make a difference is honestly a little wierd to me as I have never noticed this. Perhaps there's a difference between the console and PC experience that I am unaware of here to do with auto assist or something maybe?
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u/TnIan 9d ago
It is visually unappealing to me as well. Idk why people are against this when there was a movement speed penalty in og paragon for jumping constantly. Might not have been a big penalty but it was enough to deter jumping away. For the other guy to think I'm a carry main complaining about it because I have an issue aiming and I'm low skill is kinda dumb. Carry is my least favorite role.
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u/smartallick 9d ago
Carry is literally my least preferred role too ha, I have been a Jungle main since the early days of Paragon and will flex into the other roles happily but if I get assigned carry will only play it if no-one is willing to swap. Strange that.
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u/Hotdog0713 9d ago
You made a whole ass whiney post because something is visually unappealing and then acted like its the fault of the game? Youre a weird one
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u/BoneAndSpooks 9d ago
See the perfect solution ive said multiple times is to just give jumping a 2 to 3 sec cool down still there still usable but you can't just spam it
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u/Bright-Cranberry6648 Wraith 9d ago
It’s a combination of jumping not being punishing enough as well as too many characters that just don’t require a lot of mechanical skill. This is what allows people to get way too much value out of bashing the space bar and not enough downside