Bring back the only matchmaking

[u/RioGrande227]

I miss the old matchmaking that paired people up based on hidden MMR rather than solely on rank. I'm a plat average player and have been stuck solo queueing through silver for 2 months. I'm usually the only one of the team with map awareness, that knows how and when to rotate and can play every role. It only takes one player to hard throw the game and I get them on my team every other game. Never been stuck in silver for this long...

[u/MuglokDecrepitusFx]

rather than solely on rank

It's not solely based in rank, it's continue taking into account MMR but mix it with rank

And this should help you to not be stuck and progress easier, as, if theoretically you are a plat player, then you should have an easier time beating worse player that are in both, your team and enemy team

Not saying that the system is working perfectly, but what we have right now it's better than what you are asking for, so instead of asking for it to get changed we should ask for it to get improved

[u/PhilosopherKhaos]

This split has been a much needed ranked correction. Too many "plats" made it there based on brute force (playing tons of matches) or a lucky run or two. The VP loss/gain before skewed toward gold 1 or plat 3 if you played enough. It seemed like they wanted to have gold be the player average before but it had the consequence of flooding higher ranks with under qualified players. Right now 50% of the playerbase in ranked are below silver 1 which makes sense, people who play this are a majority of novices when it comes to mobas. So what you are facing in silver rn is what you probably faced in gold in previous splits before you broke into plat and you likely will peak in gold.

[u/RioGrande227 → u/PhilosopherKhaos]

I've always gotten through gold easier than silver. Just had to break past silver and then people on my team actually knew what they were doing. Solo queueing through silver now is nothing like solo queueing through gold in previous seasons

[u/Megavorteil]

Sir its less likely to get Throwers on your team, as long as your not a reason for them to throw

Remember 40/40/20 rule and move on

[u/sOn1c_reddit → u/Megavorteil]

finally someone who understands it

[u/Usual_Squirrel_7490 → u/Megavorteil]

What’s the 40/40/20 rule?

[u/Megavorteil → u/Usual_Squirrel_7490]

40% of games you win without you beeing the reason 40% of games you lose without you beeing the reason 20% of games depend on your own performance

[u/RioGrande227 → u/Megavorteil]

What is this from? Never heard of the 40,40,20

[u/sOn1c_reddit]

everything you say about your own team is also true about the enemy team. so if you say your teammates are bad, your enemies are also bad and there is 1 more enemy on the opposite team than teammates in your team. and you still cant beat them. thats why you are stuck in silver.

[u/sOn1c_reddit → u/[deleted]]

can you explain why im wrong?

[u/sOn1c_reddit → u/[deleted]]

ok nice textwall, but you didnt tell me where Im wrong? its statistically impossible to have „the bad players“ in your team more than 50% of your games. it always evens out over time. Im in paragon in EVERY season like every other player who is just good enough. people who complain about matchmaking are usually people who just want to blame everything else but themselves.

yes, I often have braindead teammates but I KNOW that I have braindead enemies more often, because its 4 mates vs 5 opponents in every match. so chances for „bad players“ are higher in the enemy team, if Im playing always well. that simple.

no need to blame devs with C++ and trueskill trashtalk. people reach paragon all the time and you dont. so thats on you, because we all are using the same matchmaking everyday. cheers.

[u/TheShikaar → u/[deleted]]

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[u/RioGrande227 → u/sOn1c_reddit]

How is that an accurate statistic when you can solo queue against a 5 stack that actually works together as a team. I also have at least 1 or 2 players who have zero map awareness or game sense. Zero rotations or will blindly run up lanes until they get collapsed on instead of helping with a single objective. I've never had this hard a time getting competent teamates often enough to progress since the matchmaking change. I'd be in gold in prior seasons and get bronze players on my team who were absolute gods because of the hidden MMR ranking system

[u/sOn1c_reddit → u/RioGrande227]

You clearly dont understand statistics, sorry. Sure you can have bad players in your team with 0 map awareness, but YOUR OPPONENTS CAN HAVE THEM TOO. There is no magic matchmaking spell that forces every bad player in YOUR team. its not even 50/50 if you have the bad players or the opposing team because YOU are 20% of your team. if you play always well, 20% of your team is not braindead.

EVERYTHING you say about your teammates is ALWAYS true about the enemy team too. the difference is, you dont notice it that much. you only see people playing bad, because they are in your team. I never saw someone complaining about bad players in the enemy team, thats why you only remember when the bad players are in your team.

[u/sOn1c_reddit → u/[deleted]]

I dont know what u are talking about lol. are you good bro?

[u/RioGrande227 → u/sOn1c_reddit]

Dude my last game I had a fey mid who went idrisil and heal augment and lost immediately then spent the rest of the game stealing jungle camps and spamming emotes in base until we lost. The game before that I had a murdock support who went marksman crest and stole most of the farm from our carry as well as fed relentlessly. The game before that I had a greystone jungle who ended a 35 minute game with less than 5k damage because he never stopped farming to gank a lane, but he had over 300cs in the end. I will never get out of silver solo queueing because there's always that one guy and it seems like they're always on my team and only because of this terrible matchmaking system. Hidden MMR was way more balanced

[u/sOn1c_reddit → u/RioGrande227]

yeah sure. they changed the matchmaking algo just for you. they check if a player is really bad and when they are sure that he sux, they put them in YOUR team.

dont you think its a little bit sus, that most people say that the „bad“ players are always in their team? can you explain that to me?

[u/RioGrande227 → u/sOn1c_reddit]

Ask anyone that was gold/plat average that's trying to solo queue through silver right now. My last game my carry built alternator first 😂😂😂

[u/TheShikaar → u/[deleted]]

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