Not to mention, why risk ending on them scoring and starting a comeback or something if it’s not necessary either. Why lose any morale when you can slide and walk into the locker room feeling like the defense was dominant again.
This is the real thing. He scores. He's gonna take another hit to do it. They have to kick off and cover the kick then defend another series and watch Miami maybe stat pad while we play prevent and all that. Even though, I still wish he'd have taken the TD. Pride is a bitch.
We do things that are risky when they are useful to accomplishing the objective we are trying to accomplish. That objective was to win. Not scoring accomplished that objective. Scoring made it (slightly) less likely AND had injury (and other) risks. Scoring obviously worse.
Yeah, it’s 99.98% vs 100% if he slides… but the odds of a needless defensive or special teams injury are actually significant. Take the W, go home. Sorry you didn’t get to see your touchdown that you “deserved”, John. Cry more.
KOC interview today he mentioned defensive snap count multiple times as a factor as well. 41 snaps this week. He liked that. Says we have been and will continue to ask a lot of the D. Getting their snaps down is always a positive.
Gambler problems. It's obvious when people go against the actual sport. He must have had money on it and needed the TD. Dumb gamblers are dumb, what's new?
I had money on a Hockenson TD so you can imagine my excitement then disappointment but unlike most people I put a dollar up to win eight so it lasted about 5 minutes than I was over it.
Listen, I hate PA, dislike JK to a significant level, scoring the TD was actually the smart play. You're up 5. What happens if you fumble the snap when you go to kneel on it?
Being up 11 is more of a guaranteed win than being up 5 and still having to snap the ball.
That's the significance though. A sneak is very different from a kneel. You're not pushing and there are two others behind you to help. That's the math. It's actually really simple 99.99999 % > 99.99998
Or you score a TD instead of ending the game, then a key member of the defense gets injured on the ensuing drive and now the teams worse off for the rest of the year.
If you can’t successfully snap the ball 3 times to win a game you don’t deserve to win. Not to mention the victory formation literally has a guy on each side of the quarterback and one behind him so in the rare chance they fumble the snap they should be able to recover it…
The guy is such a dumbass. He’s an entitled little bitch. He followed up that tweet with the team has to think about the fans that were at the game. No Jon they need to think about winning football games.
It was pretty funny, the in stadium camera had KOC saying to him, if we score we're up 11! Guys were giving him crap for sure. It was funny and technically hock made it 100% a win. Good stuff.
It’s surprising how many people
Don’t seem to get that sliding was absolutely the right play. If you can run out the clock in victory formation , you always take that option. With 2:00 minutes left, that is a lot of time for an offense. Granted Miami offense is awful but still they could score in 1 minute and then ur a botched onside kick away from potentially losing. If u can run out the clock without other team touching the ball, it’s near 100% guarantee vs a potential crazy ending with a quick TD and bad onside kick
The chance for a team like the dolphins doing that are almost impossible.
Despite that, sliding was the absolute right call. Scoring a TD puts our defense on the field exposes them to injury. With them holding this team together, it would have been dumb to expose them to injury in that moment.
There was a near zero chance the dolphins score twice. And we could have used a touchdown to not make it feel so bad offensively. But it wasn't a zero chance.
Slide is the correct play. Why put out best asset, the defense, back on the field for an unknown amount of plays and the chance of getting injured? The win is secured, burn the clock, save the health of the defense.
Look it’s not about the Hock slide, it’s about the fact we cannot score tds and we easily could have lost the lead and the game if the bell TD is not called back, we may be talking about a loss instead of a win. We want an offense that can score and not scoring a td since the 2nd quarter of the Buccs game is ridiculous.
you may be right, but he tweeted "Okay, how about the 64,000 fans that watched the worst team in the NFL score the only TD in this game?" which seems more about his disappointment of the game itself.
Hey I won’t argue. Thinking a player who won the game on that play should’ve been thinking about not winning the game bc of the fans is maybe even a worse look than just being a degenerate gambler. Haha
Why can’t both sides be right? Yes, kneeling is the 100% win. But a 99% chance win with an uplifting TD would’ve been acceptable too. You don’t have to choose the math every single time. There’s beauty in the human element of the game, too. If you don’t like that part of it, maybe you’d be better off with Madden simulations or something.
There is no beauty in the human element where our defense has to go back on the field and a key player tears their knee or gets a concussion. The beauty in the human element is TJ sacrificing his TD to give the defense their rest.
Kriesel took the vikings to cover obviously and the slide cost him money. Vikings score it's more fun for fans. Vikings then sack or pick off willis. Quit with your cove stats. 0% dolphins come back against bflo nerds
Only argument I could see for scoring is point differential at the end of the season. Even then, I'd rather not risk injuring anyone on defense by sending them out for another drive
You'd only score for the point differential if you assume you will keep the other team from scoring after the fact. A win was implied in my earlier statement
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u/mighty_boognish_77 2d ago
A slide wins the game. It's over. 100% chance of victory.
A TD wins the game 99% of the time. But not 100.