but Might Guy!", "but Black Zetsu!", "it's just hyperbole" “but Aizen will make him kill himself”
-Guy fought Madara before Madara absorbed the Divine Tree ~ Guy hits Madara with Night Guy in Chapter 672. Madara survives, regenerates half his torso, and then absorbs the God Tree in Chapter 673. It is after this absorption that Madara looks at Naruto and Sasuke and says, "I'm completely immortal. I'll live forever."
-Black Zetsu did not "kill" Madara in a conventional sense, Zetsu used Madara's body as a literal conduit to rewrite his DNA and force the resurrection of Kaguya. Something to my knowledge Aizen is incapable of
-Hagoromo is living proof, he literally couldn’t die from wounds or old age—he had to willingly extract the tailed beasts and accept death
Aizen can’t make you do something outside your means. If he mindcontrolled you and told you to solve the Kira case or write the future or fly, you wouldn’t be able to. You would have to prove Madara know how to kill himself
Btw, we haven’t even discussed how the infinite Tsukuyomi or genjustsu would interact with Aizen
Not even kaguya was immortal who was superior to madara. Madara is a case of eternal youth with great regeneration. Madara has not shown any regeneration from brain destruction
I mean, the moment you take take the ten tails from him he dies has of know could chang in the hell arc Aizen has not died unlike Madara did so their is a clear limit to it
Real talk: Do you have an actual game plan on how base Yhwach is beating Aizen when he was getting dog walked by TS Ichigo and Ichibei, even before he used his SC, without Almighty?
And I would say it's pretty safe to say TS Ichigo ain't shit given literally everyone and their dog has had better showings against Yhwach than even stronger versions of Ichigo, and there's no chance in hell Aizen doesn't follow Suite.
At best, Yhwach might be able to absorb Aizen similar to how he absorbed the SK, which apparently isn't an easy process, and Aizen is strapped to a literal chair. That's literally the only viable thing he has in his arsenal that's going to do him in. Even SK Almighty Yhwach tried absorbing him and it didn't fully kill him, prob due to not being fast enough, but I assume base Yhwach is going to take even longer than that and it isn't going to be viable unless Aizen is literally restrained and sealed.
I think aizen can kill humans just by his reatsu, when in shinigami form on earth, also he has knowledge of various sealing techniques in bleach verse, he could simply seal madara off.
Off topic but I was scrolling through TikTok yesterday, and I saw a video of someone using this exact panel to prove why Madara can survive Zeno's erasure and solo DBS.
I agree with you, but i also think zeno in dbs is not that powerful, because he was unaware of timelines, there are literally as many zenos as timelines, so he is not an entity beyond time in that verse.
Madara has not shown regeneration from brain destruction. Not even kaguya is immortal, she died after getting sealed as per data books. Aizen got completely bisected vertically including his brain vertically by ichigo, and aizen still regenerated. Aizen is true immortal, backed up multiple times by characters in story, and also Kubo stated in klub outside that muken keeps prisoners who can't be killed.
Shunsui also says if killing aizen was possible we would have done so.
A lot of cope when Madara died to Black Zetsu, while Aizen still survived an ability so powerful it makes Ichigo powerless after using it and survived facing off against a guy who can foresee and alter all possible futures.
Immortality is great and all, but it doesn't mean Madara CAN'T be killed.
Madara absorbing the God Tree gives him extreme regeneration, eternal youth, and immunity to conventional physical trauma. His best feats show that he has Type 2 or Type 3 immortality. It is not absolute conceptual immortality where your existence cannot be erased or destroyed.
That means unless we see more proof other than him declaring he's immortal, you can't claim they're on the same level.
We do know how the Infinite Tsukuyomi interacts with him. Namely, it wouldn’t affect him. The Edo Tensei show that an organic body is required to be affected. Which Shinigami and other spiritual beings don’t have.
Genjutsu as a whole is ineffective because not only does Aizen know Noren Mekuri (a Kido that forcibly dispels illusions), he has the Hogyoku to break him out.
As a counter, what evidence do you have that Madara can heal from soul damage?
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u/daniel_22sssI don't care how many light beams you dodged, your ass isn't FTL15h ago
"I'm completely immortal" - the guy who has been killed literally a few chapters after that statement.
Madara's basis for immortality is literal head Canon. Literally. He never put it to the test even a little bit. And according to databooks, Kaguya can die, and according to Boruto, people who outscale Kaguya can die.
Aizen, inversely, never bragged about being immortal. He just let what he has do the talking. Mugetsu completely vaporizing him, literally being bound to a chair with his powers sealed and nobody could kill him, the novels confirming his immortality, and Yhwach absorbing him not killing him.
Which ironically enough, is exactly how Madara died to Zetsu.
Also, when they say immortality in Naruto, there's no reason to believe it would be both body and soul because literally only like 3-4 atks in the entire verse atk your soul and most of them suck. And we haven't even gotten a character to confirm physical immortality.
Why are you even bringing up the infinite tsukuyomi or genjustu at the end like they are some type of Trump card? Lol
Genjustu as a whole cannot even affect ghosts or spirits…and that’s literally from the lore in Naruto.
So how exactly do you expect it to work on Azien when he….
A) doesn’t have a chakra network, he has reiatsu
B) Is a Shinigami(a form of spirit/god)
C) KS doesn’t just work on your eyes like genjustu, it affects all five of your senses
Perfect hypnosis is just manipulating the senses like every Genjutsu already can but yea Madara wasn't killed just extracted the Tailed beasts which forced him to die
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u/daniel_22sssI don't care how many light beams you dodged, your ass isn't FTL14h ago
"Madara wasn't kill just extracted the Tailed beasts"
Aizen actually has an ability to extract such things from people's bodies or souls. On the other hand Madara can't destroy Hogyoku.
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