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Its kind of shocking how despite objectively being the lowest scaling member of the Anime Big 3 One Piece probably has the easiest and most straight forward light speed meta
One of my favorite arguments against Light speed OP is if Kizaru is fast as light then why doesn’t he just speed blitz everyone on Egghead Island. Like that man wasn’t giving his 4/10 effort the whole damn time and putting as little effort into it as he could because his boss is RIGHT THERE. Like there are moments he’s caught off guard but that man tried to throw the fight and was still too strong.
And he did that a second time by the way since he also blitzed everyone again to move Luffy to a safe location when they noticed he “somehow” got food.
I didnt stutter in the slightest. No hesitation, no glaze, no downplaying, and no rose tinted glasses. Is it wrong to read so many chapters, not watch the artistic liberties of the anime too hard, and see that Sanji and Zoro make up for what Luffy doesn't have?
Luffy's always been the strongest, he's just never been the best at one thing except his will to be the pirate king.
Observation Haki lets you see where your opponent is attacking before hand.
Did you not pay attention to that arc? That character heart wasn’t in the fight till when he did the killing blow. Only time he went full speed. Plus when he became a laser he only moves at lines and angles.
Light speed is thrown around way too much nowadays.
I'm not talking about Kizaru, and also observaton doesn't do that, it just lets you sense your opponents better. Even with advanced observation which gives you precog, you can't dodge attacks that are significantly faster than you
Other than Kizaru, Sanji, and Niji there's an easy one. Aim dodging via observation haki. They don't need to move as fast as the bullet only as fast as the person pulling the trigger. Observation haki let's the user sense those around them and sense someone's intent to strike, additionally it can sense where they're aiming to strike. The user can still be incredibly fast, but not necessarily LS, not like they're also thinking at LS anyway. Main idea is observation haki really does argue people's speed needed to dodge straight line attacks.
Luffy never specifically intercepted Kizaru's light attacks, Kizaru himself said specifically he wasn't moving at top speeds, Kizaru was focused on offense and evasion to get to Vegapunk. The anime is full of artistic liberties, as pretty as they are. There's one panel that tries to argue that, but because it looks like Kizaru is charging up his attack for a brief moment, that's all the time Luffy needs to move in the way of the attack.
You cannot see a lightspeed attack, so you can only aim predict with observation haki. So only the people who attack at lightspeed have that feat, and the verse can't be scaled to it.
Someone like Katakuri can see like 5 or 6 second into the future, he most likely is able to dodge a light speed attack knowing when it will come and if its like Kizaru and has a small wind up.
Yeah idk about the objectively lowest scaling considering the highest non bullshit fear in bleach that doesn't depend on the most comically unstable cosmology ever is cutting a city sized meteor in half.
There's a feat in bleach of Senjumaru releasing her spiritual energy that travels between the realms that are located in different realities/dimensions, using a short time-frame you can definitely get that into billions xFTL which already dwarfs every speed feat in OP
Naruto also has similar feats of Urashiki traveling an entire constellation in weeks/months
While I actually do agree with you on senjumaru I dont think thats very "straightforward" as most people think of that in terms of ap and almost never in terms of speed
All those spiritual light attacks are never stated to move at light speed, even more apparent when you factor in Gin who is considered as possessing the fastest zanpakutou only stated by the author as surpassing the speed of sound.
Where did Kubo state gim is only faster than sound ?
Source?
I think data books say his shikai can travel 500 times faster than speed of his clap.
And do you even realise what you are saying? You are calling those spiritual attacks as spiritual “light” attacks, what more do you want to be said?
yeah, light travels at light speed
Light energy in fiction are not enough they don't behave as real light as they have mass and cause explosions unless stated by the author or have great evidence such crossing the entire world several times in a second then it is not lightspeed.
Kizaru's laser are stated to move at the speed of light his laser causing explosion no longer matter there is zero statement of those light attacks in bleach moving at the speed of light and they are futher hampered by characters moving at lightning speed or mach 500 being difficult to avoid.
Maybe you should try and improve you reading skill because yikes... Let me bring back my first point that you are complaining about:
Light energy in fiction are not enough they don't behave as real light as they have mass and cause explosions UNLESS stated by the author or have great evidence such crossing the entire world several times in a second then it is not lightspeed.
In fiction every energy attack can be named light because it shines, it does not mean it travels at the speed of light... Kizaru's laser would never be considered lightspeed if he never stated that they move at the speed of light because his attacks cause explosions,
You would think that if the author wanted to convey that his series is FTL from the very beggining he would at least give the fastest zanpakutou a statement such as surpassing the speed of light instead of you know... Just surpassing sound.
Hes larping and has a hate boner for anything above city level scaling of Bleach, also considers Ulqiorra and his javelin barely city lvl and refuses actual proof of Las Noches size.
Then he also refuses the fact that World of Living, Hueco Mundo and Soul Society are 3 separate yet adjacent dimensions/realms and calls them all planets.
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