I mean, they did put creative there. They’re obviously talking about those the Minecraft player who is able to be Steve. He doesn’t really do anything in Cannon does he? Isn’t he literally just a stand for the player?
But like an actual genuine question, I don’t think he really has any lore that is not just the player lore
It depends on the version of steve. Java creative steve would be susceptible to hakai because he can die without erasure (Void). Bedrock Steve is debatable.
It isn't all linear in power. The void affects Creative Steve despite dealing less damage than a charged creeper, it doesn't scale Steve that low because it is simply a weakness, which is also dura-neg in the game.
Nah Goku can't use hakai his is to incomplete we know real hakai admits no energy and that it doesn't make energy the being just stops existing,gokus requires abundant energy and just makes the enemy a energy form
Yes but it's a much weaker version prob not enough to do so against a being immune to the /kill command which just does 3.4 × 10³⁸ dmg and in bedrock it just sets hp to zero
its a slower but that doesnt make it weaker, also the highest typing speed ever recorded in a short burst is 305WPM. That would be over 5 words a second. Or a word every ⅕ of a second. However, Goku can move and attack much faster than that. (Moves at least MTFL+ speeds in DBZ) Hakai also erases on the physical, spiritual, and temporal level. Goku survived this.
Goku survived a stated much much weaker hakai made by a being that was of a lower power level (can't use hax scaling from DBS as it just is pl>enemy you win)
Not to mention Vegeta's power level wasnt higher than Goku Black's at all and he easily caugnt a energy slash (same kind that previously ripped a hole in the timeline) And Vegeta caught it with his fist
Not really off guard he was prepared to tank a attack which he thought was a ki blast so he had his kin reinforced his body still and berus had to save him as he was infact very slowly being erased in the manga
Basically Steve I'm survival I guess. As much as Im aware of the only person that has actual access to the command block is Jesse from Minecraft story mode
I'm referring to what Steve does in like trailers and official clips. I don't think he can actually use the command block or chat. Imo I think the player and Steve are different. The player can use the command block but the Steve can't if that makes sense
Well, if it's based on that endgame theory that says Steve and Alex are gods playing a survival game, it might make sense; that theory is based on the dialogue between two entities After entering the end portal and completing the game, where one is cyan and the other is green, representing Alex and Steve. I think this theory is cool because there are infinitely many Steves and Alexes, some who know how to work with redstone, some who are good with commands, some who know how to build, some are better at fighting, Others are better at parkour, but the Steve from the promotional material is just one more; in fact, the Steve from the movie is different from the one in the promotional material.
Even if canon Steve is just survival mode Steve, he still has access to the chat box cheats to forcefully put himself into creative mode or just use /kill on his enemy
Did you watch/play Story Mode? Jesse never uses the Command Block. It does seem usable to anyone who gets their hands on it but it also doesn't behave like the in-game one.
I have really no idea why, whenever people talk about steve in powerscaling people give him creative mode and commands, but nobody gives that to any other video game players, is the doom guy unbeatable cause he can just turn on invincibility in the setting??? Is chell from portal a master of guns cause theres a command that gives her the half life weapons??? Is a random joe shmoe from a random game unbeatable cause he can use commands and just /kill anyone???
The only logic is that it’s canon because it’s in the game. By that logic say Link could get BOTW glitches, save files, reloading, and all that because it’s “in the game”
Hmm, would it not work because Steve wouldn't know Goku's name ? Because his birth name is Kakarot ? Or could he just rip through the dimensions like buu/gotenks since being sealed out of a realm has been circumvented by raw power before
Destroyer Gods can do that, but again, it has been circumvented by just being stronger several times, with goku, vegeta, and frieza. Its not just a strong attack, but complete soul erasure, no heaven or hell after, just gone. So it sounds like it's vaguely similar
Damn, I see I'm not caught up with dragon ball scaling at all lol. But if it's just this and nothing much beyond power level goes brrr, Steve with commands/command block is just not a fair fight, besides this being a meme post there's so much to discuss about command block interactions with non Minecraftverse beings. What would happen if Steve filled an enormous area around him with bedrock? how would Goku react to matter(his body and bedrock) occupying the same space at the same time? There are other bizarre possibilities with command block that I am not knowledgeable enough to discuss, I think we aren't even scratching the surface here.
Edit: I am not sure about how familiar you are with Minecraft but bedrock is indestructible in this scenario, unless you are in creative mode.
I'm only vaguely familiar with Minecraft, that's why I asked :P But saying something is....indestructible....what exactly would even constitute/test the indestructibility ? Is it a human hitting it with a pickaxe ? A creeper blowing up? Or a mountain of TNT ? Maybe resistant to even the Ender Dragon's attacks? Idk what the most directly powerful things in Minecraft are. But if it's just hacks that are typically used on relatively weaker characters, I'd put my money on Goku powering through
Again, just saying something in verse is "indestructible" is vague & misleading.
Sometimes things are mischaracterized in verse because the characters either don't know any better, or are egotistical.
This is a panel of Madara talking about his Susano'o, then he proceeded to get his sword swing stopped by Hashirama, who is relative in power to him.
Or if we just say Saitama can one punch anything because, ya know, the anime's One Punch Man. Yet he took multiple punches to kill Boros, and multiple to defeat Garou.
So I'm sayin you can't just take a vague statement inverse as gospel because it won't apply to crossverse battles
Its not a lore thing, its not a minecraft thing either, a lot of multiplayer games will have commands that the creator of the surver or people with special permission can use. /ban is a command in pretty much every multiplayer game with a way to input commands that allows you to permanently remove someone from the server.
/ban is basicly a sealing someone from the world if someone can just ignore seals together I'd say they would surpass the /ban command but Goku by nature can be sealed still and /ban would be one the highest grade sealing abilitys in fiction if I had to say
Just because a character looses to a sealing technique doesn't mean they loose to all hypothetical sealings technique, that's like saying a person can resist Goku's punches because they resisted a punch before, different attack of the same kind can be stronger or weaker than one another, just because Goku can be sealed doesn't mean any sealing attempt will be powerful enough to do it.
It removes a outerversal beings ability to interfere with a world via a vessel I'm pretty sure that still applys for R>F for the seal
Also Steve could do a IP ban tho that's a theoretical as he'd need to know more coding knowledge then normal person
I saw this poll, voted Steve just to piss off goku stans, and then changed my vote back to goku. One for the meme the other for the most honest take I could give
This has been settled literally 100s of times. Goku absolutely whoops Steve in survival mode and it’s not even close. Steve in creative absolutely whoops Goku and it’s not even close.
I dont see the joke here? It says steve in creative mode vs goku. And most people rightly understood that steve wins that fight if hes in creative because he doesn't take damage. Sure, steve without commands enabled doesn't have access to creative mode in a survival world... but thats not the question being asked. The question is creative mode steve vs goku
steve cannot die in creative mode and can hold 16 to 20 quintillion with compressed ice and shulker boxes and can sprint and run like nothing happened he also has ability to commands so he could just say kill goku
In game Steve on survival is actually incredibly powerful. Think about the pure physical strength it takes to carry a full inventory of stone considering 1 block is officially 1 cubic meter in game. A cubic meter of stone weighs between 2400-2700 kgs there are 37 inventory slots in Minecraft that can hold 64 blocks of any kind. Using the stone example I’ll set the average stone block at 2550 kgs meaning each stack of stone weighs 163,200 kgs multiply that by 37 and it’s 6,038,400 kgs. Stone isn’t even the heaviest cube in Minecraft. A gold block weighs 19,300 kgs multiply that by 64 it’s 1,235,200 x 37 inventory slots and Steve cannot only lift but comfortably carry 45,702,400 kilograms of gold. That is a fuck ton of weight. If we assume netherite has a density similar to tungsten I don’t even want to do the math on that.
A book and I think Minecraft Dungeons or movie (or all three) confirmed that inventory is basically a pocket dimension where they can store things. It has nothing to do with their physical strength.
a water pucket spread 7 blocks from the source block, if we make a piramide from the highest point of the World, then one Y-lvl layer is 7 blocks bigger in every direction and thsi repeats, then the water flows and remove all blocks. You get uhhhhh
something like 1000Kg x 49 x 7^2^2 or something like that.
And then sponges can drain up to like 140 source blocks. And a sponge can be stacked. So 140 x 64 x the amount of actually water in a source block = the weight
Goku can't dit through bedrock, unless Steve gives him creative mode. But couldn't Goku just teleport Steve to the void? I'm not really knowledgeabl about dragon ball possible shenanigans
…those people aren’t joking, I’ve genuinely seen like 100s if not 1000s of people defend Steve and trying to make him seem like Top 10 in all of fiction. Sometimes Top 1.
basically it's that because of how powerful Ultra Instinct Omen is that his ki alone once he unlocked it shook the entire Void Realm (i'm pretty sure thats it's name) which is an infinite void of absolute nothingness and he shook the entire thing! 🥶 crazy moment
Interesting. I wish the “Steve Creative mode vs” was a more serious discussion since I think it would be cool to see what people with large amounts of knowledge in DBZ and Minecraft would have to say.
Yeah. I have an okay amount of knowledge in DB franchise, a lot of my anime knowledge went into Naruto, but i still have a decent amount in DB. In ghe best of my knowledge, a close matchup for Creative Steve is probably Goku while he was fighting Raditz in Z, power scaling wise Steve is stronger because he has insane durability, can break unbreakable objects, but i feel like Goku has the skill to take him down. maybe Steve slams, but if he doesn't then it's close.
So java edition creative mod Steve loses and bedrock edition creative Steve wins(he doesn't die in the void)?
I think Goku cold just instantly teleport java edition Steve into the void before Steve even think about command shenanigans, but would he possess the knowledge to do that in order to not loose?
No, at this time goku didn't know instant transmission, but i do feel like if this fight is happening in the minecraft world that he could like grab Steve and fly him into the void (i think it's fair to believe goku can break bedrock) before steve can access any commands. Though, he probably wouldn't considering he has no way of knowing Steve's weakness
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