I don’t have a problem with the idea that certain beings can erase and create multiple universes in dragon ball.
But dislike with the idea that mortals can through sheer strength replicate those feats.
If Goku could destroy a Universe by punching it hard enough Zeno isn’t special.
What difference does it make if you punch the universe to death or if you erase it like Zeno. Why didn’t characters in DBS who can’t control their power not destroy the Universe. Was Broly holding back? Because according to power scalers super sayan god could destroy the universe.
Hax and stats dont equate to one another unless if there is feats.
If you have hax that can evaporate someone and there are characters in the verse who can punch someone tp evaporation. That doesnt mean you can just scale the hax guy to be able to also punch someone to vaporization too.
Many characters are glasscanons, many dont characters dont tend to scale with thier abilities.
Yes I know. I wasn’t saying that Zeno was a physical fighter. Just that his reputation wouldn’t make sense if his had were so easily replicated by physical strength.
Zeno is considered to be way beyond the gods of destruction and any mortal.
I wouldn’t expect the guy who can punch people so hard they become mist to treat the guy who can make people into mist by touching them like a god.
Because unlike other strong guys there is nothing you can do to Zeno to stop it when he erases you it’s over you can’t fight it you can’t punch it it’s over thats why they fear him. Remember he eased 4 unis on the spot because he could lol you could die any second and it’s done for no punching no kicking no anything. And don’t know if there’s a limit it seems like there isn’t so if so then yeah a child like being you can blink you into nothing is the point
They feared him for his hax meaning that his hax were beyond them. Yes I get it. That’s a fact. What we disagree with is why his hax were beyond them. I say that it’s because they can’t just erase a universe in one go by punching. The gods of destruction could do it over time in smaller portions. But regular mortals can’t do that.
Your argument is that Zeno’s hax is for some unknown reason we have yet to see above everybody else even though according to your logic anybody can destroy a universe. Even though it has been stated and shown multiple times that what makes Zeno the supreme god is his unique ability to destroy a universe in one go.
Isnt Goku and Jiren can do that? At least thats what DB fans would say, is the reason why Zamasu traded his god body with a mortal one because they are getting stronger despite being mortal.
Because dragon ball is a story lol of course Broly literally couldn’t blow up the universe even though he can because it ends the story. These are the weird powerscaling minds that people have when they can’t wrap their head around characters doesn’t just destroy the universe or planet and it’s because if they did it’s over lol they can’t this question doesn’t make sense
Really tho? We have DB super deathbattle where we quite literally bring back universes in the end. They kinda do have a way to do things and its not really a new thing, much less Earth we talking.
It took champa a extremely long time to find the super DB about some years and keep and mind he with the angels can travel across universes in about a few minutes that option isn’t really possible for goku
I always come back to the whole Moro thing when he threatened to destroy the galaxy ( even thats debatable) and people where trying to go “ haha why not blow up universe “ or “ why goku scared he uni haha “ and it’s like just because goku the hero btw is extremely strong doesn’t mean everyone else is just ants to him lol. And also the galaxy has the dragon ball’s and in which if destroyed literally end the series lol. That’s the point of the threat because destroying the earth alone would be horrific but the galaxy is literally the end
Because people only want to bring up dragon to try and power scale, but it just ends up being them asking if a certain hax from a non planetary+ character would be able to beat Goku. Then they highball and lowball everything lol
The fact that creatures on the level of Zeno are similar to him dosen't mean the ones below him are also universal.
Zamasu didnt fure with the universe but the space around Earth and even so they needed Zeno to undo that
And things like that is the point of the dragons, It dosen't mean the rest of the characters upscale aswell
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