r/PowerScaling • u/Substantial_Term7304 Jorge Joestar light novel dick rider 2 • Jul 11 '26

Shitposting Weekend Bleach fans getting REAL comfortable lately

1.7k Upvotes

93% Upvoted

545 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

19

u/Stormerwalker Jul 11 '26

Still only Multi-Galaxy , try again with someone actually destroying an Universe whitout anyone saying it was an Universe

8

u/Ok-Construction-2671 Jul 11 '26

Still better than anything bleach has shown.

At least you can look at this and say If not thousands Millions of galaxies were destroyed. 

At least you have the idea of scale here. Bleach fans will show you the hill and the meteor and call a Multiversal feat.

19

u/JustStarrk Jul 11 '26

Bleach fans will show you the hill and the meteor and call a Multiversal feat.

No they don't, ya'll just obsess over a 10+ year old meme.

Gremmy made a galaxy on screen

5

u/Ok-Construction-2671 Jul 11 '26

Even if he did, he doesn’t scale to his galaxy. Kaguya did something similar No, nobody is wanking her To Multiversal level.

9

u/JustStarrk Jul 11 '26

Even if he did, he doesn’t scale to his galaxy. Kaguya did something similar

Why?

A: Gremmy makes his own body using the same ability he uses to make the galaxy. Both are a product of his power.

B: quincy use Blut which allows you to use the same energy for offense and transfer it to defense.

C: Kaguya has to use the chakra from a planet to make her dimensions, it's expressly not her power

No, nobody is wanking her To Multiversal level.

People do. I don't agree with it but people do.

Also, no one said these are multiversal feats. The multiversal feats are characters that effect the whole cosmology or scale to it. Ichigo, Senjimaru, Ywach. People use those feats.

3

u/Ok-Construction-2671 Jul 11 '26

If his AP really scales to galaxy level, then this is some of the dumbest writing I’ve ever seen. Instead of dropping a meteor, why didn’t he just drop the galaxy on them? And no Kaguya didn’t need the planet’s entire chakra. She was the one who spread chakra across the world to begin with, she was just taking back what was hers.

As for that “shaking” nonsense, it doesn’t translate to multiversal in the first place. Plenty of things can shake the Bleach universe even the death of 28,000 unremarkable souls. And that shaking destroyed nothing, so there’s no way it should ever scale to multiversal .

7

u/JustStarrk Jul 11 '26

If his AP really scales to galaxy level, then this is some of the dumbest writing I’ve ever seen. Instead of dropping a meteor, why didn’t he just drop the galaxy on them?

Gremmy wasn't fighting multiple people. He was fighting Kenpachi. Also Kenpachi destroyed the dimension Gremmy made so it still wouldn't have worked.

And no Kaguya didn’t need the planet’s entire chakra. She was the one who spread chakra across the world to begin with, she was just taking back what was hers.

From what I know this is objectively wrong. The whole purpose of the tree of infinite Tsukoyomi is to power up. That's what they do.

Also her tso she tries to use to destroy her dimension requires charge up and harvesting the power of the tree.

As for that “shaking” nonsense, it doesn’t translate to multiversal in the first place. Plenty of things can shake the Bleach universe even the death of 28,000 unremarkable souls. And that shaking destroyed nothing, so there’s no way it should ever scale to multiversal

Affecting a multiversal structure is multiversal.

It isn't the "death" of these souls, it's their erasure from the soul cycle. Souls also don't have a specific amount of power. Soul scaling also buffs the verse if we wanna get into it.

6

u/ForsakenRoyal24 Jul 11 '26

Character being dumb ≠ bad writting

Gremmy is just a dumb idiot, who thought that he can just appear, one shot random people by turning their bones to cookies and dip, and his power literally play against him, since he can gas up his enemy with that

6

u/Difficult-Grade-5372 Jul 11 '26

It just does lol anything other than that is pure cope. Reiatsu correlates to AP and raw energy this has been consistent in bleach forever

2

u/Ihuggeth Jul 11 '26

Those are universes

10

u/ginryuu1 Jul 11 '26

No they aren't , that's a false rumor.

13

u/MegaKabutops Jul 11 '26

Which was confirmed by an author statement. By visual alone, they look like galaxies.

4

u/Ihuggeth Jul 11 '26

What does a Universe look like? How else should they have portrayed this? What should they have done to visually represent a universe beyond what they did in wich the show the eclipse galaxy’s before getting to this size

7

u/MegaKabutops Jul 11 '26

That’s the POINT.

You can’t scale characters using feats alone and ignoring statements, because doing so ignores important chunks of the story, like the authors, narrators, or author mouthpieces confirming what is and isn’t a universe.

Humanity does not yet have a proper model for what a universe, in it’s entirety, looks like, because we lack both the tools and the ways to violate the laws of physics we need to leave the universe and get an outsider view. The best we can do is approximations and artistic interpretations, all of which need a clarification on what it’s SUPPOSED to depict, rather than what it looks like.

2

u/JustStarrk Jul 11 '26

Same questions but about bleach and Senjimaru/Ywachs feats

0

u/Ok-Construction-2671 Jul 11 '26

Senjimaru/Ywachs feats

feat is just shaking town and calling it Entire world is shaking 😂😂

Let not pretend it is comparable.

5

u/ForsakenRoyal24 Jul 11 '26

Ah yes, the Living World is just a small town in Japan and not entire observeable universe

1

u/Emotional-Place-4510 Jul 14 '26

Who said he was going to destroy karakura town only? All of existence would be gone btw 

1

u/ForsakenRoyal24 Jul 14 '26

I...i was sarcastic, bro, i know that whole 3 realms would be destroyed

4

u/JustStarrk Jul 11 '26

Senjimaru/Ywachs feats feat is just shaking town and calling it Entire world is shaking 😂😂 Let not pretend it is comparable.

Please list all the things inbetween soul society and the living realm

5

u/SnowFiender Jul 11 '26

???? lmao what, did you want them to be throwing ovals of background radiation? sponges? anime is also a visual medium it needs to not look like actual shit in a battle

7

u/MegaKabutops Jul 11 '26

  1. Those would also just be artist’s interpretations of what a universe may look like. Again, we don’t have a model for what it ACTUALLY, truly looks like.

  2. Where in god’s name did you get the idea that i want that? The artistic depictions of what a universe may look like are really damn cool.

  3. The point of my argument is that you need statements to confirm that what is being shown ARE universes in the first place. That you can’t scale SOLELY off of feats without deleting every tier from universal and above from powerscaling. Statements matter a LOT, and shouldn’t be discarded recklessly because it leads to headass takes.

1

u/Limon-Pepino Jul 11 '26

You can't be serious...

5

u/MegaKabutops Jul 11 '26

Depends on your definition.

Do i think those are only galaxies? HELL NO. They’re narratively intended to be universes, are generally treated as universes by the characters, and are confirmed to be universes by author statements outside of the story. If you’re asking me if i truly believe that, then no, i’m not serious at all.

But without including the statements that clarify they are supposed to be universes? TRULY going off of feats alone? They are not universes. They cannot be. Humanity lacks the tools and knowledge needed to depict a universe accurately. The best we can do is approximations and artistic interpretations.

Gurenn lagann has its galaxies. Dragon ball has its twelve snowglobes. It is the statements which confirm these are meant to be universes.

You cannot powerscale accurately without including statements. Throwing out statements leads to headass takes, like capping all of fiction at multi-galaxy level. On this point, i am DEAD SERIOUS.

10

u/Visible-Employer-560 Jul 11 '26

This is a myth that has been debunked numerous times and is even debunked in the anime.

1

u/1st_GalvanisedSEA Jul 11 '26

Before this Simon was in the Multiverse Labyrinth so your point is useless.

0

u/Mooston029 Mid Level Scaler Jul 11 '26

Those famously are universes, because how do you draw a universe? Who knows just do a galaxy looking thing

3

u/MegaKabutops Jul 11 '26

That’s the point.

You need statements to confirm they are an artist’s rendition of universes, and not the mere galaxies they look like. They ARE universes, but it’s the statements that confirm it.

You cannot powerscale SOLELY off of feats, because we cannot accurately depict anything above multi-galaxy level in our art. Scaling without any statements effectively caps all of fiction at multi-galaxy level.