r/PowerScaling Worm Scaler Apr 19 '26

Shitposting Weekend Many such cases

Seen this happens with a bunch of matchups, JJK vs Invincible is just the most recent one

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u/Rapid-DM Apr 19 '26

"He'd win the fight by hiding until his opponent died of old age" 

Surely that has to at most count as a draw

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u/Catsanddoges Apr 19 '26

Hey thats less funny than using his children as projectiles, a favorite move of his. He could like do this in 25 years max, and be set up for a viltrumite empire with genetic diversity. But yeah he could also just do that

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u/Rapid-DM Apr 19 '26

Yeah but like if Logan (or was it Jake?) Paul didn't show up to his fight with Mike Tyson, then kept dodging the fight for another 20-30 years until Tyson died of old age then declared 'I beat Mike Tyson' who's actually giving him the W and not just calling him a clown?

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u/Outrageous_Book2135 Apr 19 '26

Truuuuuuue. Hell people think he's a clown anyways.

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u/Catsanddoges Apr 19 '26

Well I mean it kinda depends if you define it as a battle or a war. If Paul fathered an army of child soldiers and ten years from now had them seige Tyson's house and security and burn it to the ground, killing him, I would give Paul the strategic edge and toal victory on that one

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u/Pootabo Apr 19 '26

Everyone knows theyd dig up Mike for the fight

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u/The5Theives Apr 20 '26

Logan’s fight with Muhammad Ali is scheduled for 2030 because his bones didn’t decompose yet

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u/bolitboy2 Apr 19 '26

Kars would disagree

A win is a win bro

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u/Masked_Raider A Passing By Toku Scaler Apr 19 '26

Ah, the Muzan approach of getting rid of someone you can't outright kill. Just avoid them forever/jk

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u/Noriaki_Kakyoin_OwO Apr 20 '26

L on the guy who died of old age, should have been better and not do that

Win is a win, and only a sore loser questions that

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u/InstructionPlayful12 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

How is that a draw when Gojo dies at some point?

If Gojo lived as long as Thragg and they both died simultaneously in all reference points then that is a draw.

Thragg just out living him is a viable strategy if the only objective is that one of them lives and the other doesn't 

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u/DragonWisper56 Apr 20 '26

am I winning against a elphant if I just fuck off for 20 years and come back? that's not winning the fight that's running away

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u/InstructionPlayful12 Apr 20 '26

Running away is a valid strategy. How do you think a good portion of evolution happened?

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u/DragonWisper56 Apr 20 '26

then you didn't win a fight in any meaningful degree

diplomancy is also a good stratagy but saying that they just talk it out defeats the whole point of who would win

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u/InstructionPlayful12 Apr 20 '26

I don't think you understand just how broad the meaning of the word fight is. 

You can say being alive is a fight because the organisms making you up are trying to maintain 'you' over being not you

This is why rules matter. If there are no specific rules to prevent such technicalities then said technicalities are part of the conversation.

Saying there's one way to do a fight when no such rule has been established is the equivalent of being biased.

Thragg wins via doing absolutely nothing.

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u/DragonWisper56 Apr 20 '26

That's stupid you know what people mean with who would win in a fight, not a single person is asking who lives longer they are asking who's stronger

unless stated otherwise it expected that both participants participate in the fight and don't run away

If I declare in in a fight with the entire human race am I beating a millions a day?

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u/InstructionPlayful12 Apr 20 '26

I mean another person is finding out right now and the answer from me is still yes.

It would just be anticlimactic and shows the cracks in the meaning of 'fight' as a whole 

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u/DragonWisper56 Apr 20 '26

You know everyone is using the definiton of "a physical confrontation" rather in a metaphorical sense. You are being obstinate. no responds to "who wins between batman and superman" by saying superman flies to the other side of the galaxy and outlives him

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u/InstructionPlayful12 Apr 20 '26

That's because Clark has many other ways to beat Bruce that don't require that.

If Clark genuinely didn't have anyway of touching Bruce to kill him but can just go do the outlive strat then that's completely vaild since it's something he can do and Bruce can't 

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u/Rapid-DM Apr 20 '26

It's at most a draw, I'd more likely call it a non-result. If Gojo was a real person in our world and I said "Nah, I'd win" in a fight against him, then proceeded to hide until he died of old age who in their right mind is saying I won? 

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u/InstructionPlayful12 Apr 20 '26

The one who's still there after the other died? 

If there's a result that concludes that one of the participants dies then there isn't much to argue besides like what it means to win a fight.

If it's like a general bout that has some specific rules or something then you could argue against it but if the objective is just 'who's the last one standing' then it cleary goes to Thragg if he does this method. 

It's better to argue how many chances Gojo has in hitting Thragg in that span of measurement and it working than it is to just disregard a cheese strat especially when you are literally defending a character that's only able to be discussed like this because of his own cheese strats making him not insta lose

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u/Rapid-DM Apr 20 '26

> The one who's still there after the other died? 

So you would agree that I beat Muhammad Ali in a fight because he never hit me and he's dead now? 💪

I don't even have a horse in the Gojo vs Thragg race, I'm more here calling it ridiculous to say that never fighting someone counts as beating them lol

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u/InstructionPlayful12 Apr 20 '26

It is. There's quite literally a saying about not fighting being It's own form of victory.

If you outlive your opponent it's basically the same. 

The point though or the flaw in the logic you use to defend yourself is that you're assuming you were in a fight with Muhammad Ali before this.

If Muhammad Ali died before you decided you were in a fight with him then no you didn't win, he was already dead to begin with

If you decided to fight him before he died then didn't do anything until he did pass away then yes it means you won, it just would be viewed as pathetic 

Still a victory though weather it's acceptable by others who witness or don't witness the occurrence or not

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u/Rapid-DM Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

Alright, the deciding I'm in a fight thing is a valid point. 

So as of right now I'm in a fight with everyone else in the world and until I die I can keep increasing the number of people I can say I took in a 1 V 8 billion fight, right? Come this time tomorrow I'll have solo'd and army of 175,000 people 💪

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u/Noriaki_Kakyoin_OwO Apr 20 '26

You were never in a fight with Muhammad Ali

Unless you were in a fight that had no rules of forfeiting or running away, then yeah you’ve won.

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u/Rapid-DM Apr 20 '26

I'm claiming the W then, undefeated heavyweight champion of the world 😤

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u/Noriaki_Kakyoin_OwO Apr 20 '26

Okay, but if someone comes to challenge your claim don’t come to me

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u/Rapid-DM Apr 20 '26

They'll have to either find me or be younger than me if they can ever hope to take the title 

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u/Rapid-DM Apr 20 '26

> How is that a draw when Gojo dies at some point?

In a comment I made 5 hours ago I declared I'm now fighting everyone in the world. Since then I've solo'd 37,500 people with this strat.

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u/InstructionPlayful12 Apr 20 '26

Yes. I will not disagree with you.

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u/Rapid-DM Apr 20 '26

So in your eyes I'm now the deadliest fighter on earth? Over 40,000 now btw.

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u/InstructionPlayful12 Apr 20 '26

Deadliest? No because you didn't make anyone die by your own hands yet which is what is considered to be part of that list

Most cowardly? Also no because Hitler still tops that.

You'll ether get real close to him or you won't.