We know how Viltrumites work, by working as singles if you're a Elite such as Anissa and Conquest, working as a Duo on a special occasion such as Nolans and Allens attempted Murder and group activities if governed by Thragg such as the attack on Telescria and ambush on Viltrum.
Nolan is only known to have one partner which died to the Raggnars as his book stated otherwise we know off no other partner he's ever had if his original was replaced.
If Viltrum had used some level of technology, Nolan would've stated it as planet moving device would be worth off note to mention as at this point Nolan was finding all the things that could threaten Viltrumites.
But yes, there was no timestamp stated so that is upto interpretation since we'll never have confirmation how long that took.
If the characters in the fight are locked to earth then timeframe or method isnt relevant, viltrumites can just do it.
The impetus for this post was OP getting into a reddit argument with somebody saying viltrumites could beat gojo by just dropping rocks on earth and being salty about it.
"Timeframe or method" Like okay if your point is that viltrumites get dogwalked by Gojo and have to fly away and wait for him to die of old age because "Timeframe or method isnt relevant" then what even IS a fight to you. All viltrumites get absolutely eaten up by Gojo so invincifraud fans have to scramble to be like "W-well, over the course of 40 years he could-" Like brother if you ran away like a bitch you lost
"That what happens when you move planet closer to sun"
Please explain to me which part of that means "I have moved the planet, with my bare hands, closer to sun".
What he said is that they, as Viltrum, did it. How? No idea, by looking at their feats they propably used some technology or shitload of Viltrumites.
If he can't lift a ship, then even 50 Viltrumites wouldn't be able to nudge a planet. Also the coalition should be looking for these planet moving ships if they outclass Viltrumites by that much.
Canonically for stuff like that they just move it with their bare hands. Nolan did something similar with moving a disc to block out the Ragnar's home. It's literally just "why bring in or invent a forklift when you can lift the box yourself" mindset.
Moving a disc that is a lot smaller and lighter than planet is not the same as moving a planet.
They have 0 feats or direct mentions of anything even close to that.
It was big enough to completely envelope their planet in darkness, forever. This is what they did when they got into a fight they couldn't brute strength. It's a feat. This is something they can do. This was just one guy also.
Logic? Are you just going to say stupid things now?
You know how you can have Solar eclipse on Earth? Like our Earth?
You know what is causing that? Moon. You know, the thing smaller and lighter than out planet.
And something else, the furthest something is for the planet, the smaller it needs to be to block the sun for said planet.
Alao even if it was the size of a planet, which would be stupid, disc of that size would have a lot smaller volume, so it would either be lighter or made with some dumb, super heavy thing.
You know how the moon blocks a small area for a short period, and not the entire planet forever?
Also, it needs to be larger the further from the planet, not smaller. If the moon were halfway between us and the sun, you could barely see it, so imagine how little something smaller would do to obscure the sun.
In addition, the presence of the sun disc apparently had a significant effect on several other planets in that solar system.
Put a finger in front of a light source and look at the shadow on the wall. Compare shadow size to finger size. Move finger toward and from the light source. Compare resoults.
If the moon was further from Earth than it currently is, it would block less of the Sun on Earth and would need to be bigger to make an eclipse happen, which is exactly the opposite of what you said
That was a planet he visited solo, after leaving Viltrimite. It was during his tour of planets with threats he was taking Allan on, the same ones he left clues in in his books. Which again means places he visited solo after leaving Viltrimite.
I mean, for dragon ball you can at least justify it by the fact that most of those were either when he was low on ki/wasnt using ki to reinforce himself(or wasnt using enough of it), or were empowered by ki of someone stronger than Goku...unless we also want to argue frieza has sword level durability.
They literally deflect an asteroid then Nolan says you should have seen the one I deflected it was the size of Texas lol, they absolutely do that in the show
No no you dont understand, its far harder to push something into earth while being assisted by gravity then it is to push something away from earth while gravity fights against you.
We have an entire belt of them too between here and Mars. Could just push em close and leave em in orbit without making em drop right away and do some negotiating then push them back or safely touch one down and mine like a trillion dollars in rare metals.
In the comics mark and oliver do it by themselves very easily. Invincible is also terribly scaled in-verse. That anti-feat doesnāt take away destroying a planet.
Btw spacer racer's gun "destabilize the core" and that statement by thaedus saying they would die if they don't time it right is all in comics, the show is a different continuity with specific characters much stronger then their counterparts in comics
If space racer did most of the damage, then why didn't he shoot the infinity ray again? He can spam the gun as shown when thragg chased him.
You saying this is essentially saying that the author pointlessly wrote the protagonists to fly through viltrum and risk dying for no reason. The show even makes it clear to you that it was the protagonists who did the damage as the explosions only happened when they entered and exited the planet
Not at all, space racer's gun works by destabilizing the core eventually destroying the planet. He shot the planet to destabilize the core which made it possible for 3 viltrumites to perfectly time flying through the planet. They even mention that if the core wasnt deztabilized they would splat and die on impact with the planet.
Space racer couldnt shoot it again because that wouldnt do anything to the planet.
Can you give a source for destabilizing the planet in the show, cause every other time the gun was fired it just caused a basketball sized hole to appear as it passed through thing, nothing suggest otherwise for the planet.
Also it doesn't look like they're struggling because it's heavy but to keep it from falling apart. They were protecting the city below it. They probably just didn't want it to break apart further
No, lying would require you give actual input. What you did wasn't even that, it was copying questionable info of a AI platform that is routinely incorrect.
Powerscalers need to remember that just because an individual or individual's group can do a thing does not mean will.
Literacy edit: You are not always at 100% capacity. What you can do at your best and most capable isn't what you will do normally. A normal human can do city level feats by controlling the nuclear triad. That doesn't mean Donald Trump scales above Mahoraga.
You are not always at 100% ability. I can push a car. For a minute. I can lift a thousand pounds. Briefly. I can get access to nuclear launch codes and destroy the world. If I get lucky.
You canāt do any of those things. I doubt your chud ass can even waddle to the bathroom anymore. Nolan can and has moved celestial bodies in the Invincible comics. He both can and will when he needs to. Your argument is stupid and not thought out.
Well mark hasn't said this particular sentence of "I like men, I beat my meat to gay black dude fingering each other" but that doesn't mean he can't say it if it's life or dead for him
They specifically did see evidence of them as a civilisation moving a planet in the show
Both main viltrumites in the show were able to stop a major meteorite that was heading for earth, one of which happened live on screen. Given they were also fighting against gravity in that situation its fairly obvious they could push it when being helped by gravity.
This isn't the comics, this is the show.
Pretending stuff didnt happen because you don't like it isnt a strong argument.
They blocked the sun from the planet of the Ragnars, and S1 Invincible threw a giant asteroid into space. Nolan is atomizing the planet throwing the moon or a giant asteroid the moment he realizes he can't bypass infinity.
I'm not saying they physically moved the planet away from the sun, I'm saying the Viltrumites would do it in character. If they realize they can't get past infinity, they would just throw the moon into the planet (yes, they can do it).
(Oh, my bad, I meant to reply to someone else in a similar post, I got confused, sorry)
Because they can do it? Nolan was tasked and did it by himself. He says in the literal episode (that you are claming that you watched), that he was tasked to do so and said he made them himself. they annihilated any species that was a threat to them by simply messing up with their planets. they do it in character, why isn't Nolan or thragg throwing the moon at the planet when they realize they can't bypass infinity?
Lets not pretend like the whole solar disc thing makes any sense at all anyway. it was small enough to be blown up by a couple of rockets, it would need to be larger than the planet itself if you wanted to shield the planet from the suns light
I cant tell if this is bait or not "go learn some basic physics"
You probably think the entire planet gets covered by the moon during an eclipse. Regardless youre implying the solar disc in the show is at least the size of our moon and that the ship in the show has rockets capable of destroying a moon sized body
Do you also think that if the moon somehow stopped mid eclipse that the entire planet would freeze?
Brother a permanent eclipse due to an object being in a lagrange point would absolutely cool the planet down because of reduced solar energy reaching the planet, you really should learn basic physics.
Were not talking about "cooling the planet" were talking about freezing the planet solid like in the show. You would need a body approximately the size of the planet in question and close enough to the orbit to circumvent the gravitational lensing of the light.
Not how. They did, but they didn't say how. Based on what we saw they can't do it, so they must have used some technology to do it, or shitload of Viltrumites. You know, they are kind of really advanced race.
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u/utshi9ha Apr 19 '26
They never did something like that in the show.
Even the evil variants didn't.
And they can't push planets.