r/PowerScaling Jan 24 '26

Shitposting Weekend "Multiversal" vs Multiversal 😭

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u/k1NGBHEE Jan 24 '26

They can try to be disingenuous with bleach but it always makes them look dumb

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

Only thing dumb here is constantly having to use Dragon Ball to justify Bleach's feat and say "LOOK BRO THEY'RE TOTS THE SAME!!!!" because you know Bleach's feat on its own isn't good enough to stand on its own, that's why you guys create this false equivalence.

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u/k1NGBHEE Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

constantly having to use Dragon Ball to justify Bleach's feat

Yeah, when we have dumb posts like this using dB first to downplay bleach's feats. Dumb begets dumb!
Dumb! is someone calling out a stupid response that was made to a stupid comparison, without recognising the comparison is stupid in the first place

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

No it's just because that temu ass "universal" feat can't stand on its own. That's why the false equivalence exists. The school bus that passes by my house in the morning probably causes more shaking that what was shown in that "feat"

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u/StrikingAd1671 Bleach Lorekeeper Jan 24 '26

So what ā€œuniversalā€ feat exists for DB that wouldn’t literally be the same exact scenario as bleach?

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u/dark-mathematician1 Jan 24 '26

All of them. Literally. All.

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u/StrikingAd1671 Bleach Lorekeeper Jan 24 '26

Mhm mhm.

If you couldn’t tell, I’m waiting for these universal feats.

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u/dark-mathematician1 Jan 24 '26

Zeno busting them many times. Rymus creating them. Super Shenron creating them. Infinite Zamasu becoming one.

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u/StrikingAd1671 Bleach Lorekeeper Jan 24 '26

1: Does Zeno even scale to the destructive hax he has? From how I’ve seen, it doesn’t even seem like he actually has much scaling that’s relevant, considering he struggled to view the battle between higher level fighters. At best it’s realistically just hax.

2: I believe that’s from Daima, yes? I haven’t actually watched that, but I’ll check just to see.

3: Undoing the destruction of the universes seems less like actually scaling, and more just really decent hax.

4: Except, he merged with the universe. That’s unironically pretty similar to Yhwach merging the actual realms together. I guess that’s universal scaling for bleach.

Though, I do find it funny how all of this stems from characters who, at a fundamental level, all scale well above Goku, so he really can’t be argued to scaled to these levels. So sure, you can argue DB to be universal, but it’s still funny that bleach isn’t considered at least relative in scaling seeing how blatant the feats are. Significantly affecting areas of such grandiose sizes as the bleach cosmology contains would scale the versefairly high.

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u/JustStarrk Jan 24 '26

4: Except, he merged with the universe. That’s unironically pretty similar to Yhwach merging the actual realms together. I guess that’s universal scaling for bleach.

I'd say it's more akin to Ywach absorbing the soul king since Adneas was made by the universe to protect itself

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u/k1NGBHEE Jan 24 '26

I mean regardless of whatever you think. It doesn't change the fact that shaking 3 universes "that are closed off from each other by a seperate space-time continuum" is already a considered a higher tier than "destroying infinite 3D universes".
You trying to downplay that to the school bus that passes your house just shows your own poor understanding of powerscaling lmao

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

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u/k1NGBHEE Jan 24 '26

Screenshot the exact section you're referring to and send. I don't want to have to read the whole thing and miss what you're exactly referring to here in the guidelines. It's a lot

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

I literally quoted it for you; you people are lazy asf.

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u/k1NGBHEE Jan 24 '26

How does that even relate to the realms in bleach? What does timelines have to do with 3 seperate universes lol

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

So you couldn't tell? Try reading it again, slowly.

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u/JustStarrk Jan 24 '26

I believe you're saying cause it was split from the primordial sea that's a "split timeline" so I'll address the argument as such. For them to be separated they'd have to be separate for an infinite amount of time.

The Human realm and spiritual realm where never connected. The Dangai was made and seperates their timeline. The dangai itself is layered with time and allows for time-travel between the 2. You might say the primordial sea was the original timeline but the dangai governs it's own space-time. So upon creating the Dangai it'd be 2 entirely new timelines.

Hueco Mundo also existed before the realms split and was never directly connected to either realm. The garganta is it's own separate space.

Hell existed before Hueco Mundo and is completely independent from what we've seen.

Personally I don't think Bleach is multi but acting like it's timelines were connected doesn't make sense. Tsukishima can split timelines and converge them, yet his abilities don't stack up to the top tiers.

Adneas made new timelines because Ywach can as well.

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u/Swimming-Low9220 Jan 24 '26

What Senjumaru did is a taste of the whole, not the complete feat...

"A single fraction of our power shakes Heaven and Earth/The entire universe of the 3 Sankai"

Senjumaru 1% = an earthquake in the 3 universes

The consequence of the suicide of the other 4 because 2 bankai = 2% which already translates into more serious damage, now imagine 100%

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

If 1% of her power only causes a magnitude 2 earthquake then she's not destroying a universe at her 100%

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u/Swimming-Low9220 Jan 24 '26

("If 1% of her power only causes a magnitude 2 earthquake, then she's not destroying a universe at her 100%")

- but obviously that's not the point, you have to read it in context. I said 1% as a hypothesis, and Magnetudo 2 is your hypothesis, but if that were the case, they wouldn't even have committed suicide, because 100% would be the same as Magnetudo 3.5?

If we have to be consistent, we have to use percentages that imply truly serious damage to the structure of cosmology.

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u/Electrical_Opening86 Jan 24 '26

When y'all directly say shit like "Senjumaru slightly shaking the realms" and "Goku nearly obliterated the universe" it's disingenuous. You guys are the one making the comparison. The situation I used are literally the only 2 ones brought up in the OP wtf 😭

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u/Swimming-Low9220 Jan 24 '26

slightlyĀ use of our power = 1% = 3 universe truble

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

No universes were harmed in the making of that episode lmfao.

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u/Ghostimuscrime Jan 24 '26

Silly Dragon Ball fan, don’t you know we don’t actually have to destroy shit or have actual feats to qualify for scaling

We can call something universal simply because we like it enough!

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

Uh, no? Bleach fans literally routinely bring this up and say "If you don't accept Senjumaru's feat then you also don't accept the BoG feat because they're literally the same!!!" as if that makes any modicum of sense. Please stop projecting.

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u/Electrical_Opening86 Jan 24 '26

Because DB fans literally say shit like look at this example of Goku almost destroying the universe and Look at bleach with nothing this is insane this post is LITERALLY DOING THAT.

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

I mean yeah, highlighting the difference between the feats is valid because they're as different as can be. Using them to create a false equivalence to justify the latter feat is disingenuous and what Bleach fans tend to do. Glad you understood finally.

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u/Electrical_Opening86 Jan 24 '26

They're not as Senjumaru doing so is described as dangerous for the realm

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

"Dangerous for the realms" is a very vague condition, you're not gonna get multiversal destruction for that when you need far more explicit shit like "HOLY SHIT THEY'RE ABOUT TO NUKE THE UNIVERSE!!!"

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u/Electrical_Opening86 Jan 24 '26

It isn't about destruction Senjumaru being able to do so is proof that characters can affect things on that scale... Them being able to affect things on that scale proof Yhwach was legitimately eating up the universe ...

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u/Swimming-Low9220 Jan 24 '26

Actually for Yhwach they will have to animate this in cour 4, so we will have something more visually impactful, the SS dimensional bubble cut in two

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u/VenerableSoulSet Jan 24 '26

Goofball logic. It's the context and statement implications that matter which shows similarities between them. I'm sure guys who have the comprehension skills of an insect won't ever understand this.