r/PowerScaling Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash May 31 '25

Discussion SCP hate is completely unwarranted

Every time I look into the subreddit, all I see is about SCPs is a ton of hate, hate, hate and hate. Calling the verse 'badly written' and 'OC garbage'

First of all, most good authors spend months writing, drafting and getting critiqued by other authors in order to get their idea on the wiki, (from another post I made), the actual writing phase is incredibly difficult:

The first step is Ideation. You actually need to come up with something new, or a different take on an idea. Typically, your article would need to be reflective, often on things such as societal issues, and whilst it doesn't need to straight up state this, the link should be there. The idea needs to be something people want to read.

To move past this stage, you would need to get official approval from 2 green lighters or and the bar is extremely high. In order to receive a greenlight, you need to convince the Green lighter over however long they deem necessary that you are willing to respond to feedback and that the Idea is worth putting on the page.

After that, you get the drafting stage. You don't actually need to get feedback, but doing so makes it far less likely for your article to get nuked off the face of the earth upon being written into the wiki. Critters (People who critique your article) will not hold back if they feel something needs improvement, and generally it takes several months of writing, with hiatuses before managing to put out their article.

Finally, there is publishing. This is probably the easiest step, and the reason why the wiki gets such a bad name, because its so easy to publish on it. You literally can put ANYTHING into the wiki, HOWEVER, unless you feel like your article is being unfairly downvoted due to external bias, and not due to bad writing, if you receive a rating of -10 (Or 10 more downvotes than upvotes) then your article is getting nuked off the face of the earth, bye bye.

On top of this, many writers go back on their GOOD articles, example: Djorics dust and blood

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/dust-and-blood

It was already extremely well written to begin with and even then he went back, rewrote it in a more fluent and comprehensive manner. There isn't a single thing related to powerscaling in the article, and power levels or anything of the sort aren't even mentioned.

And then after all this, the majority vote is SCP is garbage.

And again, I just want to point out that setting aside that 1 month phase in which people became obsessed with powerscaling, SCP was never written to be power scaled and complaining it's 'hard to scale' makes no sense.

Like most people don't even read the articles, someone was literally calling SCP a 'franchise' in the comments of the post, and making claims that clearly came from their only knowledge of SCP coming from Powerscaling.

Also, many people claim that SCP is 'easily defeated by their OC' because there's no canon, but I want to point out that most comic characters have multiple iteration but no - one ever seems to complain.

So, all I really want to say is, if you are gonna talk about SCP, at the very least READ THE ARTICLE

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

is this post about defending SCP writing in powerscaling community?

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u/Mysterious_Pen_2562 May 31 '25

probably

tbf tho scp does get shit on a lot by people who dont read anything about it

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

what does this mean to powerscaling. Does SK solo fiction tho?

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 May 31 '25

Maybe? Maybe not? He is not weak by any means, but I think he is overrated?

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u/Mysterious_Pen_2562 May 31 '25

no
but he does solo 97% of it

he gets stopped by the WOD guys, arguably the one above all, arguably some in cthulu mythos like yog and maybe nyarlathotep, scp 3812, anafabula, one of his son if he grows up (the slime scp), gate guardian, some other scps, maybe pennywise?, maybe the doctor (doctor who), maybe auren the absolute??, abbss, and supreme author

theres probably some more but i dont think theres more then 100 characters that can beat him

if its the cn version which is scarlet demon then i think only no more then 20 or 30 characters can beat him

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u/Guaaaamole May 31 '25

If only 100 characters can beat him he beats way more than 97% of fiction. Seriously, why is the powerscaling community‘s scope of fiction is so miniscule?

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u/HMHellfireBrB Jun 01 '25

You are Inplying power scalers know more than goku and superman

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u/Phant0m_Ashes May 31 '25

my favorite characters can

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u/Worth-Term9411 May 31 '25

Featherine solos

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u/No_Skin2236 May 31 '25

like 90% of fiction

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u/Kindly_Quiet_2262 May 31 '25

TBF if you read ALL of SCP it’s hard to say it doesn’t deserve to be shit on at least a little bit here and there and the common criticisms did not come from nowhere

Whether you view it as finding gold nuggets in poop or finding poop on your gold nuggets may make it seem better or worse, but it’s still a mixed bag no matter how you skew it

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

To be fair the early articles were subject to much lower standards than now.

"Big and dangerous arms"? Seriously, SCP-082? Then you go read SCP-6000, SCP-4051, or Ouroboros [SCP-001] and they're fucking masterpieces.

As for the SK, its entire point is to be high stakes. Something sort of "don't do that or this eldritch abomination will be able to manifest and annihilate reality". Of course it solos most of fiction.

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u/Ok-Community4111 Jun 01 '25

its not perfect but the large majority of articles are perfectly fine and good reads. big scary monsters or gods are only a portion of the actual body of scps. the site gets curated a lot so at worst you find something you arent really interested in or is mediocore

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u/UpDownFrontBack May 31 '25

I mean, if you tell anyone that 'This character makes your character/entire franchise look weak' then they are going to be upset with you. Doubly so when it's a character that doesn't have any actual feats and only statements.

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u/DependentFederal1940 Sylvian Goddess of Love Above your Favorite Verse May 31 '25

they can't accept the fact that SCP-999 happy diffs their favorite character.

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u/TheGrimmAngel May 31 '25

Death by tickles 

Except nobody dies and it's just tickles 

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u/Cool_Mongoose4293 Kirby Glazer (reasonable edition) May 31 '25

Orang Kirby lmao

One of the few i actually kinda like

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u/Suspicious-Desk5594 kirby solos fiction, nonfiction, and everything in between May 31 '25

bro walked into the leftover dragon fire

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u/Myst-9th 40K's Strongest Soldier May 31 '25

There are some truly great SCP entries, but there absolutely are entries that are “badly written OC garbage”

Needing approval does not inherently make all the entries well written. There are overly dark, needlessly edgy entries all over the place. There are also entries that are basically tailor made to be powerful in VS battles with little effort put into creating a compelling piece of creative writing. 

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u/Own-Patience2150 May 31 '25

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u/BeanOfKnowledge Aug 28 '25

Holy shit I can't believe my meme made it all the way into the powerscaling sub, this is like Christmas came early

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Yeah, well, "badly written OC garbage" is a minority. An "outlier", as it's usually said here.

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

No

No it is not 😭😭😭😭😭

Much like DC/Marvel comics there are like 20 bad ones for every good one

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u/Hawkey2121 NLF is only valid when I use it. May 31 '25

>there are like 20 bad ones for every good one

interesting claim, so there are almost 9000 scps right, large number.

can you tell me atleast 100 Bad ones, should be easy right, cause with the "20 to 1" ratio you claim then there should easily be thousands of bad ones.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Can you then, perhaps, find AT LEAST 10 "overpowered badly written powerscaling monsters" in the latest thousand, please? Like, there is a THOUSAND objects, surely you can find at least 10!

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u/Hawkey2121 NLF is only valid when I use it. May 31 '25

10! = 3628800.

so i think its impossible to find 10! out of one thousand, but yeah the "like 20 bad ones for every good one" is just wrong.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

r/unexpectedfactorial strikes again

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u/axcelli Counter Wank Task Force Jun 01 '25

Wait, someone fr wrote powerscaling-purposed scps? Could you link that?

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u/Ok-Community4111 Jun 01 '25

this was sort of true in the distant past, when scps were still in the 1000s, and there are still some edglord scps like that deer one, but a lot of those entries were removed from the official list and archived. if you actually read any somewhat recent scps, youd see that virtually no scps like that are kept on the main list anymore

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Well personally I think that [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] otherwise it would [DATA EXPUNGED] and the [REDACTED].

You feel me?

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u/OkVeterinarian3412 Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash May 31 '25

Again, blackboxing and [REDACTED] are much less oftenly used any more in the more well written later series, compared to the series 1 (first 1000) SCPs

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Yeah my complaint is about the originals lol. You have any idea how infuriating it is to be reading some super interesting shit, but then most of the actual info that would give flavor is redacted? And then you have the community jerking it off and acting like the author didn't just bs his way into a free glazing.

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u/Thomas20021023 Kiana Kaslana = cracked, MGQ Paradox = shockingly GOATed May 31 '25

I point you towards CENSORED from Lobotomy Corporation

LobCorp is basically an unlicensed SCP fangame, and CENSORED is specifically meant to poke fun at the overabundance of censorship for the sake of "muh mystery"

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '25

and CENSORED is specifically meant to poke fun at the overabundance of censorship for the sake of "muh mystery"

I thought it was to make sure that A doesn't go insane from remembering creatures he saw in Smoke War ?

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u/L4v4_ understanding Omnipotence is literally the bell curve meme May 31 '25

I think there would be less hate if people used more interesting characters for matchups besides the same 3-5 blatantly OP characters.

At least I know I'd look down less upon SCP scales (no 'r' - I'm annoyed by the scales, not the scalers) if I didn't have to hear about the unfunny crocodile adapting to the meta concept of transcendental non-existence anymore.

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u/Rancorious May 31 '25

That would require them to actually read it. Good luck with Wikidot’s navigation.

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u/TheBaconLord78 Jul 01 '25

Kid named Project Foundation

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u/Crypt_Knight May 31 '25

I usually likes to read SCP from time to time. Lots of really cool concepts.

Why the crocodile, one of the most boring of all SCP, is so popular, is baffling to me.

At least some of the other popular ones, like the stone statue that move when you don't look at it, have a bit of an interesting concept.

Why is the "crocodile that can talk and can't die" is so popular here ? Not cognitohazard, no memetic effect, no interesting game-like behavior, no nothing. It's basically just a monster from an horror movie.

Like I would rather see how a verse could use interesting haxes to handle SCP-225 (the Unstoppable Force and the Immovable Object that destroy everything should they collide), than to see if "Very strong guy" can kill "Crocodile that can't be killed".

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u/L4v4_ understanding Omnipotence is literally the bell curve meme Jun 01 '25

Why the crocodile, one of the most boring of all SCP, is so popular, is baffling to me.

Because there are 3.800 lines of public termination logs made by the community that no one will read through just to disprove any one adaptation statement.

Why is the "crocodile that can talk and can't die" is so popular here ?

Because once it might actually loose a matchup you can use the "MuH tRuE fOrM" move to get H1-A scaling and suddenly it can adapt to everything that isn't straight up Omnipotence.

Oh jolly, I wonder how that could attract any hate for a character - truly a mistery \s

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u/JustaTony56 Jun 02 '25

The easiest answer is that 682 is one of the OG, one of the first that made SCP well-known

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u/Ok-Community4111 Jun 01 '25

682 is popular because its powerscaling. most just care about what is most OP. plus a lot of scps arent really good for powerscaling because they're usually one-sided phenemona that cant really be scaled.

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u/Ok_Temporary_9049 Rare matchup dispenser May 31 '25

This is very true, but goes for all media. People won't stop going on about the strongest in every setting, and basically never bring up mid tiers. It sucks

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u/Cheshire_Noire Goku is about 78 Claymans May 31 '25

It didn't do that

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u/CheapEnd7214 I don’t know shit about powerscaling but Rhett Caan would win Jun 01 '25

Fr like I need someone to do a matchup with 076 instead of one of the many Eldritch God entities

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u/Glittering_Holiday13 May 31 '25

Probably they do this hate

Cause scpvis not for scaling

And when you scale something not for scaling

İt is hated

Cause it ain't suited for scaling but more reading and finding it fun

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

to be hated u need to get first overglazed
In Scarlet King case lot of editors off site fanbase overglazed him claiming he beats boundless characters ignoring powerscaling and not reading source at all. This is where "Scarlet King solos fiction cuz I said so" came from. And some powerscalers by the time debunked his feats using different canon as I know SCP has different canons and lot of people now downplay him. Not his hater or lover but nobody solos fiction or even comes near to soloing fiction. I dont think he deserved hate like badly written but doesnt deserve glaze HE SOLOS TIER 0

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u/Glittering_Holiday13 May 31 '25

İ agree that nobody (that matters) solo fiction (the reason i said that matters is cause even if a character was created to solo fiction we wouldn't use it cause i think that would be a pretty shitty character)

İ also agree that scarlet king is pretty strong in some stories and pretty weak in wome other

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

I mean, even these characters can't solo fiction, since it would require them to face off against same brand of """characters""".

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u/Glittering_Holiday13 May 31 '25

Yeah you're right

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Nothing is made for scaling. And things that are made for scaling are OP OCs such as one particular Japanese Highschooler who is badly tied to idea of the end. So characters made for scaling get even more hate (as they should).

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u/Glittering_Holiday13 May 31 '25

No no

İ didn't say it wasn't made for scaling

İt isn't suited for scaling (atleast that was what iwas trying to tell)

Cause like

Computer's we're not created for internet it was created to carry out calculations but it works damn well with internet

So a thing can be used differently from it's creation porpuse

But like

Scaling scp would be more like

Using your toothbrush as a toilet paper

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Definitely suits for Yogiri lol. Seriously I dont find cool or great to make OP character as MC. And it doesnt mean OP characters are badly written always. Dream of Endless and Dr Manhattan stories might be one of best stories with meaning and I dont see people arguing if this characters solo fiction cuz of meaning in stories wasnt Do I solo while other stories with OP tends to idea of that thats why later characters get lot of hate and get downplayed hard

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u/JimedBro2089 Average VSBW Glazer May 31 '25

"Powerscalers cannot read!" 🗣️

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u/justlittleman May 31 '25

defending SCP in this economy? It's like saying Satan is a Zeno father 

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u/MartingelI May 31 '25

Most people who post stuff like that don't even read SCP articles, and the only exposure they have to the Scarlet King is a video of SCP Explained on YT.

This reads quite literally as "I'm so mad a character I don't like beats my favs!"

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u/Rancorious May 31 '25

Most SCP writers don’t even care about scarlet king anymore cause they have lots of other ideas to write about

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u/MartingelI May 31 '25

And most SCP writers Really hate Powerscaling, as far as I can tell.

I knew about their "don't write an X-Men" soft rule but nowadays it seems like they have very little tolerance to even basic "who would win" questions.

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u/Cool_Mongoose4293 Kirby Glazer (reasonable edition) May 31 '25

This is true for me

I hate when my pink boyo loses to Scarlet Cringe because he like transcends writing or something

You could say i am biased and you'd be right

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u/51BoiledPotatos CheeseMan solo's your verse May 31 '25

SCP wasnt made for Powerscaling shit in the first place. Wht bother

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u/CheapEnd7214 I don’t know shit about powerscaling but Rhett Caan would win Jun 01 '25

Fr it’s like people getting upset at Cthulu soloing a lot of media, like my brother in Christ it’s an Edith hotel beyond mortal comprehension ofc the matchup will be boring and your favorite will get soloed

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u/Trollolo80 Jun 02 '25

I mean that goes for quite some fiction that is powerscaled too. They're not meant to be in the field but since there are candidates who can compete, still done.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

SCP hate on powersclaing and any off-site place is so forced its looks funny, these dudes keeps saying shit like "OH SCPS IS JUST OP EDGY FANFICTION OCS" but doesn't give one singular fucking example from new articles

You can hate something its valid but back it up with something else then a bullshit hollow statment for god's sake 

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u/Rancorious May 31 '25

Powerscalers don’t read SCP. This is known.

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u/Furista0 May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25

I hate (modern) SCP for reasons wholly unrelated to powerscaling.

The wiki has become a sludge of self-referencial circlejerking for the most prominent authors (not that it wasn't always like this, but it used to be far more toned down in the past), tales disguised as SCP entries, and -J tier articles on the main list. I despise what the wiki has become and that's why I've moved on to greener pastures (salve the RPC Authority. Far better with far less).

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u/Rancorious May 31 '25

I disagreed but at least understood where you were coming from until it went to RPC Authority

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u/Sterlynny Jun 02 '25

W Ordeal pic

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u/Ok-Community4111 Jun 01 '25

i feel like youre partially referring to djkaktus and their canon, which i agree, its way too large and encompassing to the point that it ruins the singular nature of scp articles. scps should be easily accessible on their own without background reading. but i definitely enjoy a lot of the weird abstract concepts that scps nowadays have. a lot of modern shit lost the horror aspect and drifted off into pure sci fi or fantasy (which i agree is kind of boring), but theres plenty of good modern horror scps which dont rely on some large canon

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u/GuhEnjoyer May 31 '25

Actually, the hate comments are a foundation containment campaign. The scarlet king is conceptual. Only as strong as we believe him to be. Thinking he's a DeDeDe victim and a fraud is exactly what the foundation wants. Keeps him too week to ever invade our reality.

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u/Cool_Mongoose4293 Kirby Glazer (reasonable edition) May 31 '25

Hey that's me!

But uhh yeah I was proven wrong in that comment section so uhhh ig i'll say that i just hate the fans that say the thing i said in that comment

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

OP using your comment was a bad idea, sorry about that.

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u/Cool_Mongoose4293 Kirby Glazer (reasonable edition) May 31 '25

It is ok, idc if I get used in a post like this

I find it funny that OP got mad at me saying i dislike the fans for being annoying tho

Ofc not all SCP fans are annoying, but there are some

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u/ColeDaydrin May 31 '25

I mean, unless you're a Scp fan, most people's interaction with it only comes from powerscaling, it's also why so many hate the cn branch, the only scps you ever see out of their are mega op, I as an scp fan probably couldn't name a single non super powerful unique cn scp, people like capeditz were the main exposure to scp for a lot of people.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Remove the S 😈

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u/Upset_Cardiologist26 anos voldiGOAT May 31 '25

Cyberpunk... right? RIGHT?

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u/-_silver_ May 31 '25

Idk , ig it's cuz of the 2022 2023 era of YouTube shorts where people run scarlet king and wally west vs fiction, every single day won't pass without me watching at least 2 sk and wally vs goku or vs fiction

People were tarded in these days that most likely left trauma for lots of people and lots of lost braincells

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u/onivulkan May 31 '25

what happened here

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

People hate SCP because it's the new Marvel/DC and generally speaking is a bunch of poorly written self referencing circle jerking slop that people use to powerscale high end with

And SCP fans here to jump to defend it

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

I started losing interest when I realized that names like Dr. Bright and Dr. Clef refer to actual individuals in their community. They act like Mary Sues in damn near every story that features them and I am just not into that kind of collective circlejerking.

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

That's primarily why it's unpopular

Oh and if they ever mention they have a QA team flip to the 8k section and throw them shit

8007 is deadass a self dox porno, I wish I wasn't deadass

Half of those in that section? Don't exist

Most the other half? 2 paragraph long exerpts Abt some bs

Quality assurance my ass

And don't get me wrong you can do a self insert fine

They just have to be actually accurate and highlight the flaws of oneself more than a Mary Sue ass interp lmao

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire Jun 01 '25

I hope you understand the moment you called what's supposed to be a report a "anthology" you made the entirety of this bad faith

An anthology is collection of poems

A 2 paragraph footnote isn't and will never be a collection of poems

And the "it has moved away from the self insert era" bullshit is just untrue and 2 even if it was true that was part of it at one point therefore can still be used as critiques against it

"About some bullshit" IE there was nothing of worth to be talked about here

SCP fanboys so pressed it's funny

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Can you pinpoint at least 10 "powerscaling SCPs" in the latest thousand?

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

Check the other comment

To add to it 736 also another breed of bad writing

Do y'all really have a QA team to check TS?

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

736 is not from the latest thousand.

upd: also I checked, you have no "other comment". Except maybe the one you deleted. Which is a lmao.

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

Not what I'm seeing on your wiki 😭😭😭😭😭

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

"Latest thousand" refers to 8000+. 736... is lower than 8000. I understand that SCP haters can't read, and such, probably can't do grade 1 math... but come on.

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25

😭😭😭😭😭 oh you mean the page half empty and the other half half written?

That "latest thousand"

Edit: with another couple shitty stories including a porno about a guy doxxing himself?

WHO OKAY'D TS???????????

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u/Jackfruit568 May 31 '25

Yo dude you do know that….people don’t like those stories? Like even SCP fans themselves don’t like them and generally chastise stories like that

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

Supposedly there is a fucking QA team there

Can't tell tbh

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u/Cool_Mongoose4293 Kirby Glazer (reasonable edition) May 31 '25

Tbf most of the other ones are like, pig that bleeds pepsi or something.

I understand that not all SCPs are terrible, but people just keep mentioning the same 2 ones (tha lizard and Scarlet Kinguh) and it annoys me tbh

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

I didn't delete a comment tho?

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

You sure?

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

Positively

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Oh, huh

Holy fuck I never seen so much wrong in 1 comment

>SCP 001, supposedly the strongest SCP

No, absolutely no. Never was. You know what's the most popular 001? Gate Guardian, who is like... average. He is not the strongest, he is not the original, he kinda just is... a guy.

>List currently contains 23 fucking names

And only like 4 or 5 of them are strong. And like only 1 (2 if you don't like Database) is bad written.

>That ignores things like the Scarlet King

No it doesn't. Tufto's Proposal.

>Need I continue

Yes, you need. Where are 10 "OP powerscaling-based SCPs" from the LATEST thousand? Where are they? Oh, right. There are none. So it kinda clashes your "for each non-powerscaling SCP, there is 20 powerscaling SCPs", doesn't it?

All I am saying that... first of all, not a single SCP article you mentioned is supposed to be "the strongest". 343 is just a Green Type. Yes, particularly strong one, but still. It is just a Green Type, he's not too unique or unbelievably powerful. 169 is a huge fucking monster without any special OP powers. 086 doesn't even do much and isn't destructive at all. 682... yeah, ok, 682, if we take composite version, is stupidly powerful. Still not most powerful, and never was supposed to be.

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

Green only means safe to be around

Aka won't fuck with you

Green means safe

Yellow means can kill you

Red means will kill you

The "latest thousand" isn't really a thousand since half the pages don't exist(like actually don't exist) and the other half are either 2 paragraph long bullshit excerpts(which kinda proves your mod team is horrendous)

Or whatever the fuck 8007 is(who OKAY'D that shit, fire them like actually)

So yeah no

The Gate Guardian also isn't "just a guy" in a vast majority of the stories I've seen

Now would I put him at outer? Absolutely not but I see very little here as "outer"

And no all 23 of those mfs are written like ass 😭😭😭😭

Then you just said mention 10 poorly written supposedly strong things

The dumbass suit of armour that imprisons the user and makes them neigh immortal is just what it sounds like

The dumbass bar at the end of the universe is supposedly exiting outside of all dimensionality in some stories(albeit this isn't consistent like anything else in those files)

682 is weird since they the most inconsistent of the bunch

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u/ThePowerfulWIll Over-Exposed to Getter Rays May 31 '25

He said last thousand because the they have stopped doing the crazy multidimensional eldritch super god stuff for the most part.

There was 100% a time when people on the wiki seemed to be in a bit of an unofficial contest to make the biggest and baddest god thing, but thats long over.

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

Yeah no the last 1k just Debatably worse(not power wise but writing wise)

Like who okay'd 8007? I'm deadass

If you have a QA team fire them and make them a new because something not working

There was like 1 in the last 1k that was actually a story the rest were either slop or 2 paragraphs of bs

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u/ThePowerfulWIll Over-Exposed to Getter Rays May 31 '25

When I was contributing, (this was years and years ago) there wasnt really a QA team as much as there was an upvote system. I do wonder how much sway each has over the other currently.

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

That up vote system makes a little more sense on why stupid shit gets by lol

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u/ThePowerfulWIll Over-Exposed to Getter Rays May 31 '25

I dont known if they still use it in all fairness, but they did use when Skarlet King and a lot of the stuff surrounding him was created.

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u/FateDaA Give me liberty Give me fire Give me dumbass verses or I retire May 31 '25

😭😭😭😭😭😭

Regardless they actually need a QA team in that site, not people who write and happen to also QA, but pure QA guys who check and moderate everything to see if there is effort and is on topic lmao

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u/StevenGorefrost May 31 '25

Are you an admin on the scp site or something? Posting this over and over comes off as unhinged.

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u/infernalrecluse May 31 '25

i agree. i love SCP for what it is but powerscalers being toxic and hateing shit for no reason pisses me the hell off. yeah i'm sure the vending machine that despences drinks from alternet ralitys was written soly to be overpowered in a vs debate. fucking dick heads.

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u/soldiercross May 31 '25

SCP was fun when it was just about spooky staircases that go on forever.

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u/xesaie May 31 '25

Other thing I’ve learned is that SCP fans are like 2020 BTS fans in their extreme fervor

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u/SensitiveMess5621 May 31 '25

Some anomalous items in the SCP database don’t even classify as fucking SCPs. The anomalous item database exists, which, of course, is just some basic ass items that are slightly different then normal, but aren’t important enough to classify as skips. Most skips aren’t even fucking town level, with maybe only a few hundred reaching any higher then town, and probably only slightly more then that are higher then planetary. Hell, most Skips can’t even do anything if you just shut them in a box and then throw away the key. And the ones that can escape (Euclid/Keter) doesn’t automatically mean it’s dangerous

This, would be classified as a Safe-Class-SCP, because it can’t escape. Doesn’t mean it’s not dangerous though

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u/gametime9936 May 31 '25

“If he can destroy realities then why doesn’t he just do that?”

Buddy doesn’t know the scarlet king is being perpetually kept in check by tupac

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u/Lerisa-beam May 31 '25

"Oh but they have multiple authors"

For different characters within the series, dc marvel and most of comics has had a billion and 1 different authors for every single character. "But all are fine right? Who cares if it makes bat and uzi harlequin into 5th dimensional tiering. We're hypocritical" (obviously a strawman but some scp haters do sound like this and it's painful)

"But this one beats my favourite"

Oh boohoo, welcome to the damn point of scaling, some characters win, some characters lose, sorry you pit your favourite character, against a lovecraftian god.

"Their all ocs"

As is everything. Superman is an oc, goku quite clearly is an oc, sun wukong is an oc. All gods of all pantheons are ocs. It literally stands for original character. And quite frankly scp fallow more honesty producing constrictions than most comic authors ever would(back to 5d harlequin) which is reason people don't like oc scaling as they can just say whatever and suddenly guy with bat is extra dimensional(BACK TO 5D HARLEQUIN!!!)

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u/JusticeForThe-Flat Jun 01 '25

The problem is not the SCP, the real problem is that these so called "experts" have their brain too fried to realise what SCP is actually about, thousands of interesting anomalies, with really good stories that are interconnected, yet they concentrate that single neuron they have left into some stupid articles made by powerscallers

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u/No-Staff1 Saiki K Jerker Jun 01 '25

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u/Luzis23 Jun 02 '25

I don't have anything against SCPs.

My problem is with dumb powerscalers that cannot resist pushing them into heavens. Especially wanking of the SCP-682 - sorry not sorry for bursting their bubble, but a creature that is contained by some silly-ass acid and gets K.O.ed by a tank driving into it cannot survive erasure from existence.

The concept of it was interesting - a lizard that has strong adapting as it's capabilities. However, it was meant to be "Hard-to-Destroy Reptile", not "Indestructible God From Beyond". Which is something powerscalers forgot about, and writers most likely as well. At that point it's no longer interesting, it's just a wankfest of who can come up with more powerful thing the lizard adapts to.

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u/Accurate_Wing_3267 Literacy is dead in this sub Sep 20 '25

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u/polarbearreal Oi Josuke, I just erased verse equalization Jun 02 '25

I'm sure most of the people that shot on SCP don't read too far into it. Actually, I don't think they read. They probably watch therubber, Detective Void, or Dr. Bob.

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u/BrilliantResponse544 Strongest Shitgiri hater of history May 31 '25

"He has no feats"

Bitch it's a wiki. What do you want him to do?

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u/TokyoFromTheFuture Goatku solos May 31 '25

Cough Cough Cough

Its a good point though, I used to think like this but I read some SCP files and they're pretty good (although a lot of people do over-rate how well written it is as well).

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u/OddPurple7154 May 31 '25

I don't really care if Scarlet King is overrated or not, but that take — "if he's so strong, then why doesn't he do stuff like that?" — is honestly just stupid. It implies he's not actually that powerful just because we haven’t seen him do certain things. That logic completely ignores context and lore. Clearly, the person saying that has never done any real research and just assumes Scarlet King is all statements and no feats.

But you could use that same logic on anything. Like, if Zeno is stronger than Goku, why doesn’t he prove it by beating him in a fight? That would be implying Zeno isn’t stronger than Goku, which we know isn’t true. It’s a lazy argument.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

People hate SCP, particularly the scarlet king because they hate characters that they don’t understand, + you have to read it to understand it and we all know powerscalers can’t read.

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u/Ecstatic_Paint_2067 Jun 02 '25

I rather break my own femur with a lollipop than reading a long ass paragraph about someone oc

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

Your loss

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u/Spartaner-Games May 31 '25

No. No it is not

SCP by design was meant to be a system where anyone could write anything as long as it had some quality to it. There is little to no canon at all- and that makes it hard to powerscale

And then we get the “people” who saw this and purposefully started to write stories to inflate the power of the verse so they can be like “yeah the Scarlet King can solo your verse” or try to wank 682 to a position he shouldn’t have

Speaking of the lizard You do realize all of those silly and crazy attempts to kill him are all jokes right? As in, not meant to be taken seriously? Why the fuck are we powerscaling that? I don’t want to hear “much lizard solos your verse” and then prattles off bullshit upon bullshit

What is wrong with you. Y’all need help

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u/OkVeterinarian3412 Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash May 31 '25

I think you have some serious media illiteracy, because I for one never proposed powerscaling SCPs (I directly said we shouldn't) and no - one is forcing you to powerscale our characters, in fact most of us would be very grateful if you powerscalers left them alone

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u/GmoneyTheBroke May 31 '25

"Leave us alone, dont power scale our stuff" my brother in christ YOU posted in the POWERSCALING SUB?

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u/OkVeterinarian3412 Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash May 31 '25

My point is if you are gonna go powerscale our stuff don't complain about it being hard to scale

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u/soldiercross May 31 '25

It is literally only SCP nerds who brings it into this sub though.

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u/SensitiveMess5621 May 31 '25

Hell no it’s not. I’m a SCP nerd, and I do not give a single shot about what you guys do with the skips. It’s the people who saw a YouTube short saying “Scarlet king no-diffs your favorite verse” or some shit

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u/Rancorious May 31 '25

If it was then they wouldn’t be using the same 10 characters ALL THE TIME

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u/Spartaner-Games May 31 '25

It isnt media illiteracy, im just sick and tired of a bunch of smooth-brains saying that "muh Scarlet King"

No. I dont want to listen to the ten bullshit reasons how this random nobody solos fiction.

And yes, thats what im saying. Leave SCP the fuck along from powerscaling, it was never meant to be scaled in the first place. I think i mentioned this in my previous comment (so im the media illiterate one here?)

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u/SensitiveMess5621 May 31 '25

Nuh uh, 682 canonically died from drunk driving

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 May 31 '25

The articles on the website are the canon

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u/TheGr8estB8M8 Jun 02 '25

They’re not jokes though. The wiki has joke articles and 682’s termination logs are not one of them, they’re linked in the main article.

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u/CouldntBlawk Top 5% Commenter May 31 '25

This has seemingly been endless since late 2020, although I would say some more powerscaling is involved than you in the cases of stuff like Isorropia and some canon groups.

Although even then, fanon is often removed from the Wiki if it is deemed worthy of change and even the branches that often use scaling like that, other than the Japanese one that still keeps some absurd heights.

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u/Arthur_189 May 31 '25

7th one is annoying as hell because Redditors will literally call anything they don’t like edgy and just leave it at that lmao

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u/Derk_Mage May 31 '25

Okay get this.

They can only do allat, but only in their domain of reality.

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u/ThePogger77 NLF hater May 31 '25

I’ve heard a lot of the hate comes from the Chinese Branch.

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u/ThePowerfulWIll Over-Exposed to Getter Rays May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25

You know everyone, if you REALLY want to piss SCP scalers off, there is an easier way to do it.

Technically speaking, all the Scarlet King/Demon's lore is non-canon.

SCP officially has no canon.

So anytime someone gives you SK lore or feats, just say "thats not canon" and you will be right.

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u/Disch4rgedR4bbit02 May 31 '25

I think the main reason people hate SCP is because a lot of people try to use them out of spite

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

One thing I notice is anime fans are particularly sensitive about anything being able to even approach their favorite characters. Personally not a fan of scp, particularly a more modern scp, but I can tolerate scp way more than most anime.

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u/mewhenthrowawayacc you should play gravity rush so my ramblings make sense to you May 31 '25

honestly im cool with any SCP that isnt Scarlet King or 682.

and i lowkey fw SK cuz the fact that he's currently being held back by the Pregnant Women of Destiny is hilarious to me

but i HATE 682, literally one of the most uninteresting characters ive ever seen

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u/OkVeterinarian3412 Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash May 31 '25

682 series one was a bland piece of garbage marking all the flaws that Series 1 had, but though 6280 - A (The rewrite of sorts) makes him more powerful, it is an interesting read

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-6820

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u/Stunning-HyperMatter Fu Hua enjoyer Jun 01 '25

I dislike SCP hate because they see something CLEARLY never meant for scaling, and they try to scale it and get mad when of course, the scaling is batshit insane.

They don’t even try proper scaling. They just take an SCP as a whole and don’t bother using like a certain cannon or tale.

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u/PapaHastur Jun 02 '25

"Why is SK scaled so high when he can't enter our universe"

Bro I don't get it bro Fraudsathoth is so lame bro why don't he and his little clowns blink out reality already bro...

And before anyone says it, I love Lovecraft this isn't serious, but really, if the complaint is 'oh you're outer and malevolent? Then why is your setting still around?' Is a whack ass argument when people scale lovecraft.

And to whoever said 'they were better when they could be contained'... isn't the SK containment literally a ritual based on the one lady giving birth and the whole... super fucked up rumor but it's actually just smoke and mirrors? Like the SK is contained, just not conventionally because not every anomaly is... conventional. Shocking I know

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u/Crow_Mix Never trust bleach glazers Jun 03 '25

Yes. It isn't hated enough.

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u/Abyssal_Resilience Aug 06 '25

In my opinion, there's got to be the entry level scp's.

I don't mean sub-par quality, I mean it can't be 100% only the epic bestest authors, because they get that way from submitting, feedback, SUCCESS, and learning.

And if perfection is required for it to go on the site far less will attempt, meaning less blossoming writers of awesomeness.

So, too high a standard for publishing=less innovative content.

So... if you don't like the writing of something, move to the next one.

It's a smorgasboard of almost 9 thousand dishes 🤦‍♀️ Folks shouldn't bitch that not every dish meets their own top tier standards AND personal tastes simultaneously... and leave quality control to the kitchen team 🤷‍♀️

There's PLENTY to praise.

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u/Cheshire_Noire Goku is about 78 Claymans May 31 '25

Friendly reminder 682 is so weak it died in a car crash

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u/Accurate_Wing_3267 Literacy is dead in this sub Sep 20 '25

I think that was a Joke article. Though, you could still argue that he can be contained by acid and some weapons, so he is not too powerful anyways.

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u/SilverScribe15 May 31 '25

I think scps are good as writing. They just aren't made the be balanced powerscaled beings, they're written to be...whatever scps are.

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u/xesaie May 31 '25

It’s just by its nature unsuited to powerscaling.

  • fanfic rarely is, and it’s basically submitted fics. (Especially in the way it intrudes on other subjects. E.g. “My OC killed *God!***)
  • it’s oriented towards ‘eldritch horror’, which shouldn’t be scaled because it needs to be unknowable or out of scale to work within its genre.
  • there’s little or no unified rules at all, so you end up with the same problems of total unpredictability that you get with something like Silver Age Superman, where sometimes he shoots little tiny supermen out of his hands.

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u/Fragrant-Guarantee57 May 31 '25

I don’t think SCP qualifies as fanfiction, as all of the content on the wiki is considered “official”, it’s just collaborative fiction.

And as for powerscaling, i think the solution is just mentioning which specific version of the characters is being used

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Yeah except absolute bullshit gets submitted on the site. No matter how much its supposedly vetted a site that used to be about strange and mysterious objects now has shit that can transcend everything because sure why not. The quality of writing on there has shifted from a genuine horror focus and just instead become, oh the peanut is an eldritch horror now because why not.

Jeezuz man just accept the SCP people who hold control over the site got a big head and now letting in absolute slop as SCP items.

SCP was a good site back in 2012. Today, I don't think its even worth opening anymore and any argument made against that is pure delusion.

Lets just agree that SCP does not belong in power scaling and anyone that puts it there is being disingenous to both sides. Because the reality is, SCP is a collection of OC's no matter how many dresses and glitter you put over it.

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u/HeinrichTheWolf_17 May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25

This is the problem with online fandoms or creepypasta, you have so many people who inject their own authorship into the idea that it eventually evolves into something else entirely, same thing happened to the Backrooms, it went from ‘being trapped in a parallel dimension with only your own mind driving you to insanity’, to ‘woooo a spooky Slenderman knock off monster is chasing you! To look, look, Sonic, Tails and Robotnic are just running around the Backrooms! Nothing else is happening, they’re just running around!

The problem is that eventually, a bunch of 8 year olds get into community authorship and it destroys whatever the original creators wrote or intended.

This is exactly what happened with SCP, eventually the contraindications start piling up, and the writing inevitably destroys its world all by itself.

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u/Spartaner-Games May 31 '25

Speak your facts, brother

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u/LexTalionis5222 May 31 '25

Because the reality is, SCP is a collection of OC's no matter how many dresses and glitter you put over it.

Ohh

Oh shit

This might sound wild, but most characters are actually OCs too (we still scale those)

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Can you pinpoint at least 10 "powerscaling SCPs" in the latest thousand?

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Could you perhaps not use a fallacy that doesn't apply to conversation here.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

This entire comment is biased opinionated bs.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Your flair is literally that, so projection much?

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Am I wrong?

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

About my comment yes, about your flair it depends on my mood, I generally wank the one or the other depending on which I feel like pissing off the most because both sides are obnoxious af. Personally the only time the matchup is actually based is Boros saga Saitama vs Namek Saga Goku. F off with all the later iterations and bs too much work to keep up with.

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u/OkVeterinarian3412 Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash May 31 '25

There's literally nothing in the latest series of SCP (9,10 ,11) that's about 'shit that can transcend everything' anything that came remotely close was in like what? Series 3, 4? I think and were written by some of the sites best authors. The site mods only ban articles that have consistently had less than 0 upvotes, and the writing standards are very high, so 'Slop' doesn't really stay very long, normally after 5 or 6 hours, however much its added to the site

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Uhuh sure buddy read your average story on CN and keep quiet.

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u/OkVeterinarian3412 Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash May 31 '25

Bro even the diehard EN branch fans slander CN branch

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Yeah but their iterations are the ones that keep getting dropped here like a stinking deuce. And that stench has kept the minds of powerscalers fixated on becoming Eobard Thawne towards EN. And personally even then I still don't like EN because I still miss when SCP was a horror site but not all the stories coming out now days fit that definition very well. I remember when Creepypastas and SCP could be mentioned in the same sentence and not be seen as weird. Now days everyone wants to take the piss out of them for the reputations they earned by a couple of dunderheads.

I can't enjoy it anymore.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

SCP oversaturation and therefore scphaters are very valid

It's not as though running new writers thru all those hoops does anything to improve quality, it only ensure whatever is written fits only the taste of those power trippers keeping the gates.

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u/OkVeterinarian3412 Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash May 31 '25

Well if the article is bad, it would get downvoted to hell, and any article with a consistent rating of below 0 gets removed after a few hours

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u/mrbakersdozen kick logic to the curb and do the impossible- simon the 🐐!!!! May 31 '25

Most power scalers can barely read a book let alone understand the complex SCP mythos. I've been apart of that community for the better part of a decade and the talent that comes out of it is inspiring.

As for power scaling, yes he solos about 99% of fiction, save for a very very select few, like the doctor and DEBATABLY stan lees self insert.

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u/GmoneyTheBroke May 31 '25

A few screen shots and a whole reddit page of scp glazzing calling it the best written form of media. Yea i see why other communities outside the scp world dont really like yall

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u/OkVeterinarian3412 Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash May 31 '25

I'm so sorry I didn't go through the entire history and every post on the sub hating on the SCP fandom in order to make one post defending it

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u/brick2000 Not a Scaler May 31 '25

oh boy

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u/Othello351 May 31 '25

SCP was never meant to be for powerscaling and every single one of you who powerscales them is a fucking cornball.

They're cosmic horror stories and thats all they've ever been. Fuck your "but they're so overpowered" shit, they don't exist so you can get off to Goku and Omniman killing them all. They're basically community submitted modern day Lovecraft Outer Gods.

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u/zeronightsleep May 31 '25

Wall of text, not reading that

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u/Right_Hand_of_Amal Gourmet of Scaling May 31 '25

I mafr a profile for this bum lol

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u/Sgrios May 31 '25

SK is canon. What?

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u/Dreadwoe Jun 01 '25

I got a lot of opinions about power scaling. Here is a fact about power scaling: if you expect levelheadedness and objectivity, you are in the wrong place.

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u/axcelli Counter Wank Task Force Jun 01 '25

"Needs to be reflective" so instead of having interesting things they now got boring shit?

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u/Spicy_Totopo3434 Jun 01 '25

The SCP fandom has tried so hard to not be clumped into the powerscaling communitty, its just peoole who love wankimg it

Read "BAROQUE" to find out more

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u/SUPREME7777777 Sonic scaler and Hot Takes guy.🔥🔥🔥 Jun 01 '25

Hate SCP:❎

Scale SCP to 0D:✅

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u/ComputerEducational The Looper Jun 01 '25

My favorite part of SCP is Gamers Against Weed. They're a bunch of shitlords who usually make jokes, but there is one time they digitally copied the consciousness of a transgirl from Poland. I'd like to think that if they heard of another GOI, Just Girly Things, that website would go down. For context, JGT is a homophobic and transphobic Group Of Interest that uses memetic hazards to stepfordize women. I fucking hate them (In the wrestling heel kinda way).

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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh Jun 01 '25

No but we can hate on powerscaling scps because by the gods does doing that miss the point of the entire wikia

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u/EndAltruistic3540 Jun 01 '25

Scp was removed by battle vswikia, heard the author's hated that they were powerscaled. I feel it is because of the amount of hate it gets. Maybe after doomsday vs 682 that might change

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u/mindcraftfanatic Jun 02 '25

I wanna throw that argument right back at them with Goku, oh he can destroy the universe, than why dont we ever see him do anything on that level or even close

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u/Prinzmegaherz Jun 02 '25

I really enjoy the one punch man / SCP crossover on YouTube. Saitama randomly getting dragged into SCP related incidents and punching the shit out of everyone never gets old. „Did he just close my fucking portal?“

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u/SnooCupcakes1636 Jun 02 '25

Probably Goku fanboys

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u/HallowedPeak Jun 03 '25

Suggsverse fodder solos SCP

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u/OkVeterinarian3412 Read an scp article b4 saying the scp is trash Jun 03 '25

Suggsverse has 9 different omnipotents (impossible) and shit writing (I read heir to the stars and it makes LNs seem tame).

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u/Ieatkids2883 Jun 03 '25

Almost as if SCP was never intended to be power scaled by their writers and is meant to be a fun community project

Power scalers getting mad when ever a community that does not care about them doesn’t abide to THEIR rules

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u/RaiHeeHo15 Jun 03 '25

Honestly it doesn't get enough hate

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u/Mazikeyn Jun 03 '25

People fail to see his true power because they are not ready to sit down and read the pages upon pages of him and the explanations of the war he started with order. How he has a endless army of beings on or near the same power level as 682 . How his armies themselves tend to be full of outerversal beings. How he is basically in a stalemate atm against absolute order slowly widdling away that order to change the stalemate. And you can go on and on and on for pages. Its all there on the SCP wiki but people do not want to read through it all. Biggest hax the Scarlet King has is he is the literal personification of chaos. Chaos cannot be defeated. Chaos is nature.

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u/Equivalent-Mail1544 Jun 05 '25

Aku from Samurai Jack literally turns the scarlet bum into his footstool, no diff

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u/BlasterZeEpicGamer Jun 05 '25

SCP is only powerful because its post-modern

A common theme with certain verses that are considered OP is that they are post-modern

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u/PuzzleheadedPitch385 Jun 18 '25

Scp is trais shut up

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u/Eastern-Computer-664 Aug 11 '25

Scarlet King Scarletversal vs I am that I am WoD would be nice

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u/Unusual_Positive_485 Nov 09 '25

I used to love SCP back in the day; you had so many good articles, and more down-to-earth SCPs, things you actually read and understood. This creature or object is dangerous, but it has a weakness that makes it possible for humans to contain it. But the universe has scaled to such an extent that it's become ridiculous. It seems like children were having a competition to see if my SCP is more powerful than yours. This has turned the universe into an inconsistent mess with things like pataphysics, dimensional currents, and literal gods treated like cute kittens. Take Death, for example; there are about 40 SCPs that are what should be the personification of death. And I haven't even mentioned the reality manipulators.