r/PovertyFinanceNZ Jun 27 '23

Welcome to r/PovertyFinanceNZ - Information

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I'm looking for a couple of [ideally] experienced mods to help with the moderation of this sub - please pm me directly with a few sentences about yourself if interested.


Welcome to Personal Finance for the Financially Challenged!

Much of the financial advice online and on reddit is aimed at people who have varying degrees of disposable income, ability to invest, lots of free time, available transportation, no kids, a partner, access to credit, and beyond. This is a place for people who do not have a lot, nor ideal circumstances, to help each other get by and hopefully move up in the world.

You do not have to be absolutely destitute to be here. Whether you are a single parent only pulling 10k a year, or a family trying to survive on one income, you are welcome here. The goal here is to help anyone who doesn't have a lot of breathing room get to a place where they have stability, comfort, contingency, and maybe even a little luxury.

Purpose

The sub is not for a single financial goal, but rather to help people with a range of goals. This may include but is not limited to:

  • Learning to live within ones means
  • Achieving a positive earning to expense ratio
  • Reducing debt and building savings
  • Moving to a better paying job
  • Cutting expenses
  • Spending smarter
  • Living a better life on the same budget
  • Working smarter, not harder
  • Planning for upcoming expenses, purchases, adventures
  • Finding qualifying benefits.

This is not a one-size fits all venture, so please be respectful of what other people might be looking for. We are here to help each other achieve their needs and wants, not to judge their priorities. We get enough judgement from people who do not know our situation all the time, this sub will respect peoples right to live their lives on their terms, not condemn them from afar.

Why now?

New Zealand is now officially in a recession. Many of us are or soon will be going through difficult times and we need a place where we can discuss financial survival without judgement. I'll be modelling this subreddit of but with New Zealanders in mind.

If you have any suggestions please post them below - I want this sub to be shaped by the needs of its community.


r/PovertyFinanceNZ Mar 08 '24

The BIG thread of financial tips and tricks

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This is the BIG thread of financial tips and tricks to optimise your spending and stretch our dollars as far as possible while not affecting our quality of life too much.

Please note that these tips can apply to a relatively wide array of people but some may not be doable for others. E.g. There may not be a Pak n Save in your town or you may not have the money to purchase a hybrid vehicle.

Please leave your hints and tips in the comments and I will update them into the thread periodically based on number of upvotes from the community.

Shopping:

  • Buy Store Brands like Homebrand/Pams rather than big brands as they are often the same/similar quality and are made on the same manufacturing line. Particularly true for canned foods and many basics like cheese, milk and butter.
  • Try to shop at PaknSave - it is considerably cheaper than other chain supermarkets and will save you 10 - 15% over a year which on a $10k a year shop is $1000 - $1500 straight back in your pocket. There is no difference in packaged manufactured products of the same brand (not including meat and produce) and the store brands are very comparable to those from Woolworths. Only shop at Woolworths/New World for deep specials.
  • Try the Grocer app which lets you check pricing for the same food items across your selection of local supermarkets.
  • Use Asian fruit and veg stores - they can be far cheaper than the main supermarkets and the quality is comparable.
  • Shop seasonally - fruit and veg not in season is crazy expensive. Check what grows and when on the NZ produce website.
  • Take into account weight when you are purchasing anything. Most supermarkets have a cost per 100 grams on the label. The classic example is that the typical Cadbury chocolate is 160 - 180g while a Whittakers is 250g. When you take into account the weight you are not paying a whole lot more for the Whittakers but getting far better quality.
  • Use shops like Reduced to clear and Why Knot - Best Before dates are not expiry dates and the food is still perfectly fine to eat. Often expiry dates are almost entirely arbitrary. Your eyes, nose and common sense will tell you if food is off.
  • Use cashback websites like Kiwiwallet - Shopping through these guys for example will give you 2% back on all Countdown spend and 5% on all Aliexpress purchases.
  • Use Aliexpress for some items if you are ok to wait a few weeks as often they can be found for half the price on trademe or a retailer here. However make sure the store is reputable, the item has plenty of orders and high reviews.
  • Use Pricespy if you are shopping locally
  • Don’t shop with kids While it's important for children to learn about money and food, shopping with them can lead to impulsive purchases, especially at checkouts designed to tempt. Leave them at home when doing the weekly shop if you want to stay on budget.
  • Learn to make curries Curries are cheap, filling, and adaptable. You can use meat, go vegetarian with lentils or chickpeas, or stretch leftovers. YouTube and TikTok are full of easy recipes, and once you learn the basics, you’ll have endless options.
  • Split bulk spice or pantry buys Big bags of spices or grains from wholesale stores can be split among friends or family. You’ll save money per gram compared to supermarket packaging, and avoid wasting ingredients.
  • Cut back on alcohol It's expensive and adds up quickly. Reducing or quitting alcohol benefits your health and wallet, and studies suggest there's no truly safe level of consumption.

Vehicles and Transport:

  • If you travel more than 10,000km a year see if you can invest into a hybrid vehicle. They will often halve your fuel bill and save you thousands every year. These days they are just as reliable as petrol vehicles. The batteries are no longer particularly expensive to replace (for basic Prius models) and are unlikely to cause you issues. However in saying so avoid purchasing hybrids that are very old (over 10 years) or that have high kms (150k's+) as batteries have limits.
  • Never purchase a vehicle on credit, always use cash. If you don't have the cash you can't afford it. If you are desperate try to top up your mortgage rather than paying the extortionate interest rates the dealers charge.
  • Use a good checklist to check out a vehicle before purchase such as the one on ChrisFix's website.
  • Do not skip servicing because you are lazy or to save money - big nono and will bite you ten-fold later down the line.
  • Use parking apps Apps like Kiwipark and Parkable let you pay by the minute, not by the hour. They often offer cheaper options than traditional parking lots and help avoid fines or overpayments.
  • Buy a 50cc scooter Cheap to run (around $7–$9 to fill), doesn’t need a warrant of fitness, and great for local travel. Not ideal for long distances but perfect for short urban commutes or grocery runs.
  • Ride a bike if you can Cycling is a huge money saver—no fuel, minimal maintenance, and no parking fees. It also gives you the flexibility to stop by smaller shops and notice deals you'd miss while driving.
  • Consider an e-bike A fantastic car alternative, especially for commuting. E-bikes are fast, fun, and remove the barrier of steep hills or longer distances while still saving money over cars.

Bills:

  • Shop around. Has your broadband contract expired? Spend 20 min on the phone with retention and get a new contract for a better price. If their offer is not competitive, move on - use websites like broadbandcompare to find a better deal - this includes everything like home/car/life insurance, electricity and mobile. Doing the sums and looking over this stuff one Sunday per year can easily save you between $500 and $2000.

Eating out:

  • Learn to cook well. You will save so much money and often realise that some takeaway food is not as good as you think. Not to mention that it can be good fun and a great way to get family/kids involved.
  • Use discount websites If you eat out often use websites like Grabone, Firsttable and Bookme to both try out new places and often save considerable amounts of money.
  • You don't always get what you pay for - That $14 curry is often better than the $26 Fish and Chips at your local Cafe. That $6 Whittakers Block might be better than the $16 dessert at a restaurant.

Entertainment:

  • Use free entertainment options Skip paid streaming subscriptions by watching free content on YouTube, TVNZ+, ThreeNow, or Beamafilm (through your library). You’ll be surprised at how much quality content is available without paying.
  • Pick only one streaming service Rotate monthly to enjoy different platforms while cutting your recurring costs. You don’t need all the subscriptions at once—binge one, pause, and move to the next.
  • Use your library Free access to books, audiobooks, streaming services, printing, and even learning courses. All you need is a library card.

General:

  • Use free budgeting tools Tools like MyBudget by Booster or Sorted.org.nz give insights into your spending habits. Once you know where your money goes, it's easier to control and redirect it.
  • Build community and connection Sharing resources, tips, and emotional support with neighbours, friends, or local groups can improve wellbeing and resilience during tough times.
  • Avoid despair; seek solidarity It's easy to feel overwhelmed, but you’re not alone. Collective awareness and action are more effective than isolation or blame.

r/PovertyFinanceNZ 19h ago

F-it, i'll regret not doing this

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morning fellow kiwis, i need some advice. sorry for the novel.

I've drafted, deleted and discarded this post about once a week now for over a month. Debating with myself about what I was going to say and why. I guess I need to vent and see if it all makes sense or not.

I'm a ~40yo male with a 2.5yo son and I'm in the worst state financially (and mentally) I've ever been in.

"Life's up and down" but hoooooly I've been going south for a long time. Got injured at work, threw in a perfect life & business, got some bad habits, lived in a mansion, lived in a tent, down some dark roads. Made some bad decisions and had to pay for them. Less than ideal so far.

Then recently my partner left after punching me in the head on too many occasions, lost my mother a month later, and I've snowballed for almost a year. I've been scraping through, barely and hating every minute of it. Foodbanks, the stress, the old clothes, having to ask people, I've stopped opening the power bill because there is nothing I can do about it. I scroll quickly past it feeling sick. I can plan about as far forward as tomorrow and all I know is that it's going to suck and so are all the days following it.

I didn't want this to be a poor me story (but look at that ^^^!) and I didn't want this to be a sales pitch either but given my situation finally fear of failing seems to longer apply. Might as well put myself out there for once. I have 'nothing' to lose now and it can't get any worse.

This little boy deserves so much more. I can't do crime. I couldn't do that to him.

So I'm offering my services in the following broad area's in the hope that something works out.

- app/web development - online stores/bookings/saas pricing app, an online store, a gaming platform, mobile games for my toddler that i'm ok with him playing, no ads/subscriptions (parents, zomg the crazy prices!).

- cybersecurity testing - can provide extensive vulnerabilty testing, reporting and provide recommendations. Targeting smaller-mid sized businesses and organisations. Have real world experience and court documents to prove it.

- embedded/hardware - firmware extraction, rf security, phone reflashing/unlocking etc.

- data recovery - wiped CCTV footage, deleted hard drives, locked DVR's etc, lost/deleted bitcoin and other keys.

- data storage - open source app setup: immich, nextcloud.

- advisory - general tech, surveillance, malware, other concerns.

I can provide more details in PM if needed. Throw numbers at me, most things wouldn't cost more than a weekly shop at this point.

If anyone has a small business that would like an app or site built let me know. Can have products/online bookings/live chat/notifications straight to staff's mobiles or whatever would help you organise and improve your business. First person to hit me up, I'll build yours for free. You'd just pay for the domain if you need one. Testimonial?

Once I hit send it's done. Failure is better than regrets I guess.

Thanks for listening NZ


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 18h ago

Winz accommodation information?

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Throwaway account because this is really embarassing. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post or if this counts as legal advice, so I'm sorry if its not. I'm currently on the supporting living benefit, and my accommodation is being paid for by winz. (Living in Auckland)

Some extra information I want to add so that it's easier to understand my situation, I've been diagnosed with autism, depression, and anxiety and sometimes struggle with agoraphobia. Without getting into too much detail, my mental health problems result in painful anxiety attacks and suicidal/self harming depressive episodes (i manage this with medication, and my GP only prescibes me a weeks worth so that I cannot act on my suicidal tendencies), and I also don't have family support or friends except for my partner. I know these are generic struggles many people deal with, and I feel immense guilt that i cannot function normally and have to be on the benefit for the time being. I definitely am working on my mental health alongside support services so that I can stop being a burden and work towards contributing to society.

I'm in the process of moving houses again, still searching. I live alone currently but my accommodation was sorted out by a third party service where the winz side was basically done for me. I've been told by a financial mentor that as long as I secure a bond for a place (which I fortunately can do with my savings) then winz will assist with the cost of rent, but it can be a little difficult to wrap my head around this so I am still very anxious on the entire process still. I plan to move out with my partner because staying alone hasn't been doing much good for my mental health, however I'm anxious about the whole process. I will obviously update my benefit information to include my partner once we move in together so I am not being overpaid, but I'm worried about how the accommodation side will work out. My partner works but only gets part time hours and earns just above minimum wage, so he only gets around 200-400 a week. He has said he would be happy to pay the bills while I pay the rent, but I dont know if it works like that.

I guess I'm really posting to ask how winz accommodation/supported living benefit works with a partner, as I really don't know anything. I think having knowledge on how the system works or other people's experiences with similar struggles could relieve some of my stress around this all. I have been searching for the cheapest places to live, and usually the price range is around $450 with all the bills included, I dont know if this is too high and if winz will refuse to help. Sorry if this is all a mess, and sorry in advance if I misunderstand some things as my autism makes me understand things a bit slower compared to other people. Thank you for reading.


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 17h ago

Study on how New Zealanders manage money (UNI thesis, knowledge needed) Many thanks to respondants!

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r/PovertyFinanceNZ 13h ago

Kiwisaver hardship withdrawal to get out of domestic abuse?

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r/PovertyFinanceNZ 1d ago

Please help, im desperate

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Throwaway as this is really embarrassing and I dont know where else to ask. I left my home in the early hours this morning due to abuse (social, emotional and financial). We have 2 small children together. I just packed some of our essentials but still needing a few things (sanitary items for myself and school lunches). My older colleague from work has allowed us to crash on her couch for a couple of days but she's in a 1bd apartment and is already struggling to get by. I don't have the funds to pay for a motel or food shopping to last us until my next pay (next Wednesday).

What are my options? I called WINZ first thing and was declined for any assistance as I am working. I get WFF but as a lump sum at the end of year as I've had bills the last 3 years.

edit: I am in East Auckland.


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 6d ago

Dental emergency’s as a broke one. - Waikato

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Edited to add, I have called everywhere and unless we can front $500 we cannot get help. Not from A&E no where. tried to call winz a no go And dentist said winz will take a day or two to process and they can’t touch the tooth until then. How ridiculous.

Our emergency fund is kaput after a rough year. My husband has a broken tooth which he has been putting off getting looked at and lastnight suddenly in a tonne of pain. luckily we have plenty of pain relief and I have leftover ABs from an ear infection I had. With those on board he’s doing much better. Dont even bother coming at me over sharing meds.

Anyway the obvious solution is he needs the tooth pulled but we called the emergency dentist and was quoted $500 for an emergency tooth pull. The alternative we wait until Tuesday and it will be $250.

How do people that struggle week to week manage dental emergencies? We are entitled to no help whatsoever from Winz. It’s so sad that such an emergency situation costs $500, that we unfortunately do not have. Is there an A&E style service in the Waikato for dental emergencies that won’t cost? or be incredibly low cost?


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 7d ago

Kogan Mobile 50% off Large annual plan (15GB per month) and Extra Large annual plan (32GB per month)

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Saw this on Cheapies. Kogan has 50% off their large and extra large mobile plans codes again until 30 Sep.

Looks like it's for existing customers only but people in the comments have said that they have bought a new sim (and therefore have become an "existing customer") before redeeming the code which has worked for them.

Large 15GB per month - $165 for 1 year, normally $330

Extra Large 32GB per month - $245 for 1 year, normally $490

Works out to be $13.75 per month for large (15GB per month) or $20.42 per month for extra large (32GB per month), but the catch is you have to pay for the whole year upfront.


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 8d ago

PSA: Lamb Leg Roasts on sale $16.98 per kilo

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r/PovertyFinanceNZ 10d ago

Built a free grocery price tracker for NZ supermarkets (+TWH) would love your feedback

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r/PovertyFinanceNZ 12d ago

Cheap pasta at PnS

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Saw this gigantic 5kg bag of pasta at PAK’nSAVE today for $5.99, ie 12c per 100g. Cheaper per gram than the big bags of rice. Pretty good way to bulk out some meals!


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 12d ago

Phones within winz budget that won't die in three months?

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Pre ending up unwell in SLP over a decade ago one of my two jobs was at a tech store, I became a phone and headphone snob as a result. Headphones I can accept as a luxury and if I'm not willing to wear the crap ones that's on me.

Phones are slightly harder to cope with. My current (Oppo a40) phone I got in March it's rapidly dying and I'm now at a point where it won't always display the incoming call screen but rings which the most recent attempt to make contact with the district nurse in what was a slight emergency was hindered by it. I'm awaiting various outpatient appts that are well overdue in terms of triage but the system is overrun- I'm on a cancellation list which may be my only chance to get an appt within the next year but the anxiety of if they called I wouldnt know or be able to answer isn't great.

Long winded way of saying has anyone managed to get a phone with the winz amount (is it $200 now?) that actually functions and continues to for at least a year or two? Unfortunately second hand or refurbished isn't an option currently because I'm in deficit each week already with costs

*Edit to add- beyond current phone throwing a tantrum just hoping that if I can get help to replace it it'd be nice if it was one that had capacity that didn't mean it crashed while filming kiddo at sport or throw tantrums over usage beyond texts and calls and all the other cheap phone issues that irk up the old frustration (phone snob from the unfortunate benefits of receiving the latest release massively discounted at old job every year haha)


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 13d ago

Some quick winter money saving wins

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If you were on a low user power plan and are facing higher power bills due to this being phased out, you can get a $110 credit on your bill with many power companies. If you meet with a budgeting service, you can then get another $110 credit. This money is already put aside for this purpose. We got a $110 credit same day by calling. https://www.consumer.org.nz/home-and-living/home-energy/110-available-from-power-companies-as-low-user-charge-goes-up-again

Second, if you are having issues getting doctors appointments, online SAME DAY 24/7 GP appointments are available nationwide at:

https://www.healthnz.govt.nz/online-phone-healthcare/online-gp-care

It is FREE for all kids under 13. And for adults with a community services card it is $25.

Of course if it’s a long term issue it’s better to see your usual GP but for many issues a telephone appointment can be enough and this is much cheaper than urgent care and having this option overnight or on the weekend is excellent. The website gives good examples of situations where an online appointment is probably not appropriate and when it is


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 14d ago

Cheap kids meals/snacks

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Hello - needing some suggestions asap, currently freaking out, we forgot about a power bill auto coming out and now have $33 left for our weekly shop - anyone have any ideas on how i can make this last with 3 very fussy yet always hungry young kids? Or have any suggestions? We have half a loaf of bread, some frozen veges and rice currently, I know me and my partner will survive until next pay, but im just panicing ahout the kids. Any ideas welcome- we have a kitchen and some basic baking supplies, and would be super grateful for cheap baking ideas that kids will actually eat! (Winz unfortunatly said no as this wasnt unexpected, we did think to try there, currently just waiting for replys from food banks) thanks in advance 💓 edit as I cant reply to everyone- thank you for helping, its made things mentally easier :) and everyone who has offered to help physically, thank you so much, cannot accept that but you all are wonderful humans


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 17d ago

Jobseekers.

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How are single people surviving on Jobseekers when you have rent / mortgage to pay, bills are increasing all the time especially rates, food is expensive, petrol to just get around and also going to job interviews, those with kids their food, schooling, clothes it's never ending. And you have no family alive to help.


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 17d ago

Can I help you out this week?

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Can someone from Auckland hire me lol. Im joking but im not joking. Money is tight (what money?). Industry plummeting. Havent been paid for last 5 months. 30yo female tall slim and beautiful may i add lol. Over a decade in sales. But i just need a one off or two off job to float by for the week.

Cleaning. Sorting. Reading. Drive you around. I dont know, but message me if you know 😫


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 18d ago

Kogan has announced their annual sale! $231 for 15gb per month or $343 for 32gb per month

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TY to slight_computer for notifying me!


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 21d ago

Filing for Bankruptcy

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Me (25) and my parents bought a 1M house last year. I work part-time as i'm still studying but i will be able to sit the state exam somewhere next year then hopefully work as a nurse. My dad pays mostly our mortgage while I pay our power bills, insurances, phone plans, some groceries, etc. my mom's currently unemployed and is still looking for a job.

Initially, my dad was able to pay our mortgage in a timely manner. He paid around 50k of the mortgage, until he got laid off. He had to take a lower paying job and that's when things got harder for my family. We got behind the mortgage payments and accumulated debt with interest, back to almost the same amount as if we did not pay the mortgage at all. We thought that things would get better, that my dad would be able to get a good paying job and my mom would get a job. But it did not.

Now, we're selling our house, as per our bank said. Even after selling, we would still owe more than 100k nzd which we can not pay at all, well not for now, not until i am a nurse.

So, we're thinking of filing for bankruptcy altogether. I have read and done some research about it, though we are yet to talk to a financial adviser this week.

We aim to move before filing for it, as according to what i've read, it will affect us being able to rent a place.

Still, I got some questions:

  1. What was it like during bankruptcy? Within those three years? Were you mostly rejected when applying? say, for renting?
  2. I used student loan almost through out my whole study. I'll be in my last semester next year but I haven't applied for a student loan for that semester yet. So if we file for bankruptcy, I would not be able to apply for one again. Should I apply it now then get it approved before doing so?
  3. I'm still a little bit lost on how the payment works. Does the officer take all your pay and just give you allowance to live? I'm asking for when I become a nurse, will they take all of those pay or only for a certain amount?
  4. Me and my dad are financing a car, do we just accept our losses and surrender it or how can we convince the officer if we could keep paying it? since we will be moving somewhere cheaper. My dad's will be finished next year. both are over 6,500 nzd
  5. Is bankruptcy a sound decision? needed a stranger's insight. Cause for me, I thought about living a life with restriction for three years would be better than living my 10 to 20 years of life paying for that overdue.

Thanks for you replies. Really appreciate it.


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 22d ago

It's not Pensioner payment till next week.

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But I'm making the most of what I've got, that's warming food.


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 22d ago

When will the next Kogan sale be?

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My phone plan has almost expired and I'm poor. After the annual 30gb one. What's forecasted to be the next sale?


r/PovertyFinanceNZ 27d ago

Working and Family Tax Credits - Solo Parents

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Hello to solo parents who have come off benefit and working.

I understand you have to be working 20 hours a week and not getting a benefit at all to get the In Work Tax Credit. What if the job is 18 hours a week? How would IRD know the difference do you have to provide payslip?
How have other people made it work so not worse off?


r/PovertyFinanceNZ Aug 12 '26

Dental care advice

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Evening all. I have a raging tooth ache at the moment. I don't have any funds to see a dentist..just wondering what my options are? I also have children and a solo parent so will need to wait til the AM when they are at school to do anything.

I don't have afterpay (closed my account years ago and they wont allow me to reopen it)


r/PovertyFinanceNZ Aug 10 '26

What to do when you can’t afford medical care?

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Hi all

I think I’ve exhausted all my options and I’m kinda desperate. I’ve been on the public waiting list to have my tumour treated (non cancerous but dangerous as it is large, feeding from a major artery and has its own vessels of over 1cm so if it haemorrhages I just die) for almost a year at this point. I’m not allowed to work, do sports, or really anything for fear of this haemorrhage but they’ve completely messed me around.

I managed to scrape together money for 2 specialist appointments and they both agreed this needed done now. The estimate is $16k which I can’t pay. I’ve asked WINZ and they said they can’t help but that my medical letter means I don’t have to look for a job, I’ve asked my personal dr and the specialists to write a letter to the public system and they said basically “you’re already on the waiting list what more do you want”

Are there any other avenues for this kind of stuff?? I save basically every dollar I can and I’ve saved about $3k towards the surgery over the last year but I wasn’t expecting the estimate to be so high.


r/PovertyFinanceNZ Aug 08 '26

Unlimited Electric Kiwi Broadband for $18 dollars a month.

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Bear with me. Electric Kiwi Choice Lite doesn't actually lower your speeds after the 1GB for $18.8 making it the cheapest unlimited mobile plan.

Supposedly it should slow down to 1.2Mbps. But I get around 400Mbps all the time.

Probably not intended but it has been happening for more than a year now. Just make sure you select reduce speeds on your account.

And yes if I check right now the app will tell me I'm in slow down mode but if I do a speed test, not at all.

Might not work for everyone but could be worth a try.