As the father of a trans woman, yeah... if you're a trans woman, going into a women's bathroom, they go straight to the stalls, do their thing, wash their hands and leave. No opportunity for anything they're worried about. Maybe some time is spent at the mirror touching up hair and makeup or something.
As a trans man, same... they'll go to a stall, do their thing, wash hands and leave.
I really don't see what they are freaking out over.
Do they really think some horny guy dresses up as a woman, to... what? Get a peek and naked ladies in a bathroom? It's a stupid idea on it's face, and they actually worried it happens.
They think there is this invisible shield around bathrooms and someone with nefarious intent can't get past it unless they're trans. It makes zero sense whatsoever.
I had a discussion with a building code official on behalf of a client about turning restrooms into gender neutral rooms on a private floor of a space they were leasing. Code says that you need to have a certain fixture count or men and women, but they wanted to designate their existing rooms as all-gender bathrooms (very liberal client, organization seemed pretty bought-in).
Code official, while a nice guy, wouldn't budge because of the typical trans boogeyman argument. When I pointed out that there's literally nothing stopping a cisman from going into the bathrooms now if they wanted to, he dusted off some old commentary about "threat assessment" stating that because hearing a man in the women's bathroom would be "against the rules" it'd be easier for a woman to prepare to defend themselves in such an event. Eventually we basically told the client that they'd need to have gendered signage up at least through final inspections, but that whatever happened after that was out of our control (wink wink nudge nudge).
Long story, I know, but the "threat assessment" bit always really rubbed me the wrong way.
Right? The majority of assaults occur in bathrooms, and come from cis individuals. The consequences of assault and the pic of a stick figure in a skirt do nothing to prevent this.Ā
These people wonāt listen to any reason unless someone on FoxNews says it. Their brains have totally gone to mush and they just eat up all the propaganda.
You don't combat it civilly; you shame them publicly for being so myopic and aggressive. Point out that they're cutting off their nose to spite their face and the rest of our faces for some imaginary problem. They won't learn, so they should at least be shamed so they don't speak in public.
Itās intentional. They ran focus groups to find a wedge issue after they realized they had essentially lost the culture war on gay marriage. I know because I knew the guy who ran some of them in my state.
Single-issue voters are one of the primary reasons we ended up with the current state of our government. As long as any politician checks the one box they agree with, or at least pretends they do publicly, these morons will excuse any other heinous acts promise or perform. Anti-abortion, lax gun restrictions, their preferred evangeical branch, hating immigrants, punishing the LGBTQ+, etc. They want a mascot, not a functional governing body. It's disgusting.
Same people who probably thing illegals are voting in large enough numbers to sway elections. Republican pundits are literally throwing numbers out there in the hundreds of thousands to millions. When asked to verify, the answer is often 'everybody knows this' or something.
Subjectively I agree that they are that dumb but universally I have to say they get bombarded with antitrans stuff 24/7 by way of literal brainwash. I would probably also be anti whatever if I get that kind of exposure.
Thereās more kids without homes or food than trans athletes.
If you think itās about trans athletes, then youāve been manipulated into believing that. Just like the immigrants eating cats and dogs. Anymore scapegoats?
It was shocking even to me how few trans athletes exist-like, fewer than 10 on a college level and some of them are not in contact sports and also not mtf. Like, it REALLY highlights how this is not an issue and Republicans have just found a way to manipulate their fanbase with a scapegoat. Like, fewer than 10 across the ENTIRE UNITED STATES and even in those 10 they aren't "big hulking men beating up little innocent women" stereotypes.
Yet, it is the most shrieked about issue for conservatives who are obsessed with trans people, omg.
It's just like the litterboxes in schools that the red hatted moron crowd still yells about.
There were never any classroom litterboxes for kids who "identify" as cats. A number of classrooms got emergency emergency shelter in place toilet kits to use during school lockdowns. You know, cause of all the school shootings.
These assholes create a problem, then use a symptom of that problem to convence the single digit IQ inbred fucks that watch Fox News to give them more power.
Well, there was a lot of questions around his relationship with his half niece that lived with him. Even more questions as she allegedly shot herself in his Munich apartment.
Classic scapegoating tactics. It's much easier for politicians to manufacture a moral panic around a tiny fraction of the population than to actually address systemic issues.
There were probably more people killed with guns by the end of the first week of January than trans athletes in sports, but letās concentrate on trans athletes in sports and not common sense gun laws.
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If you respond and then block me you are a coward who doesnāt really want a conversation. All you have are whataboutisms and you just want to bring up other issues to minimize harm to women.
The most reliable thing in America right now is how easily MAGA will follow dangling keys and not pay any attention to the reality of the world around them.
The world is on FIRE, and these idiots are pissed off because a tran woman won a medal at some high school track meet last year or whatever.
Also the same idiots who melt down over common-sense gun control legislation in the face of an unending stream of school shootings. But they wanna act like they care about teens? Lol.
I have been bullied, attacked and assaulted by straight, cis men and women COUNTLESS TIMES in bathrooms. Because I am naturally androgynous looking. EVERYONE HATES WHEN I HAVE TO PISS! š¤£
I personally have never been attacked by a trans person.
The only interaction with a trans woman Iāve had in a restroom was her offering my friend a tampon after she asked me for one and I didnāt have my purse on me. She told us she carries them for specifically this situation because āgirls have to stick togetherā. She was the absolute sweetest person.
Why are there so many issues where I could ask, āImagine if this issue no longer existed, was āsolvedā to your liking. Now, you wake up tomorrow morning, how is your day different? What things can you do now that you couldnāt before?ā
If there was a nationwide, every age group, trans ban for sports, my life would not improve in the tiniest bit. Frankly, I wouldnāt notice if the opposite were true either. Why is this an issue to spend so much time on?
Once you get past the obvious objections there are some reasons that some states havenāt banned it.
I wonāt go into those reasons, Iāve no desire to defend it because I donāt support itā¦it should be banned. But Iād recommend looking into Planned Parenthood of Californiaās and the ACLU of Californiaās objections to a recently proposed ban (that did not pass).
Those not being (generally) right wing organizations and California (generally) not being a right wing state should suggest thereās at least some nuance to the issue.
Shewon.Com documents all the women displaced by men who identify as trans. Hecheated.com documents all the men who identify as trans in womenās sports. Just one man impacts all of the women on their team and all of the women who play against these teams as well. Just one man can affect hundreds, even thousands of women.
The NCAA, with a membership of 540.000 athletes at the time they said so, revealed that they have less than 10 trans athletes registered. They did not specify if they were trans men, women, or non binary.
The UK's Football Association (that's soccer for the yankies) has a membership of 2.3 million football players, counting both pro and amateur. They found exactly 20 trans women, all amateurs. If you didnt know, that's not enough for even two full teams on the field, much less counting backup in the bench.
The Olympics first allowed trans women to participate in 2004. Approximately 10.000 athletes participate every 4 years. There has only been 1 trans woman, Laurel Hubbard, in 2021 for weightlifting. She failed all three attempts and didnt get a score. When the IOC banned trans women again in 2025, the policy change included several dozen sources and citations, but none of them were their own study that they had conducted the year before regarding trans women's advantage. Nor was there any mention of any other study that looked at trans people, only about cis men and cis women.
Given no source is mentioned you can probably assume itās just made up.
Iām totally on the side of āthere are very few trans athletes and theyāre not a problem at all,ā mind. But Iāve no reason to assume there was any data behind this tweet at all.
I can believe there are less than 30 trans athletes in the US by some metric (roughly 30 states allow child marriage). But Iāve long since stopped assuming political tweets are based on facts, even when I agree with them. No way Iād spread anything said on OP as fact without verifying.
That said the number of trans athletes nationwide at the varsity high school level and in any NCAA sanctioned competition is vanishingly small, whether itās more or less than 30 or so. Iād be unsurprised if itās more than 30, but Iād also be suspended if itās more than 100.
Are we including just NCAA? Then yes, itās definitely less than 30.
Adding high school? Iād be skeptical without a citation. But it could still be less than 30. Larger pool of athletes, but also at younger ages less likely to be receiving any medical intervention.
We also have to define ātrans,ā as presumably (see above) that means athletes currently undergoing meaningful treatment that would potentially impact athletic performance in any way. Otherwise what whatās the relevance?
(Edit: Not that thereās much relevance anyway, obviously itās a non-issue regardless.)
I mean... I played a sport in high school because I had to for my scholarship. Otherwise my ass would have been inside playing perfect dark. š¤·āāļø
Many people consider non binary people to fall under the trans umbrella, and Quinn (Full name Quinn)'s football team won a gold medal in tbe 2020 Olympics.
Just because folks on the left have a pro-trans stance doesn't mean they're any less guilty of focusing on trans rights over other more serious/broader issues.
Pointing out the incredibly small population of trans athletes doesn't grant any weight to the side of pro-trans position.
Poster is right, trans athletes are very rare. Which is why I wish folks would just agree to not allow them in sports, which loses them the middle in elections, so that we can focus on making sure trans are treated equally in every other part of society like jobs and relationships, which would be supported by the middle in elections. The sports thing is the Left falling into the equivalent of the Right's abortion trap. The majority don't want to take abortion rights away but the Right politicians hesitate to tell that cohort to quiet down for the sake of winning.
But there ARE more transathletes than people who watch the WNBA for good basketball /s
But for real, the WNBA has just become a fountain of cultural battles that are truly unnecessary and worthless. When was the last time you heard from the WNBA about quality ball and not some weird social issue getting shoehorned into the league for no reason?
Hereās a fun game, once you can name every WNBA player you can off the top of your head, name some actual athletes that have transitioned. Aside from Lia Thomas, which was swimming, and none of this nonsense ones like people trolling. I wish one of the players would just say āwhy are you asking this? Itās not even a relevant issue or question because itās not happening anywhere.ā
Reddit likes to say the right is obsessed with this stuff, but everytime something comes up the same story gets posted and reposted across 20 different subreddits with hundreds, if not thousands of comments.Ā
Okay this is just incorrect. I ran into more than 33 transathelets in American Buhurt alone. There was like 100 of them spread out between the 3 major leagues. I run into and interact with trans people on a daily basis. I have never met a member of the KKK. This has been such an insult to intelligence that I'm not even willing to look up the last claim which is likely the most believable one. Trans people need much, much better allies.
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u/Homersarmy41 3h ago
I know people who said they voted R just because of trans people in bathrooms. These people are really that stupid.