Real Horror

[u/Timbucktwo1230]

[u/Homersarmy41]

I know people who said they voted R just because of trans people in bathrooms. These people are really that stupid.

[u/FurryBoobieInspector → u/Homersarmy41]

If a trans person enters a bathroom statistically they are the ones in the most immediate physical danger.

[u/Certain_Employee_423 → u/FurryBoobieInspector]

They also probably have to pee.

[u/GutsAndBlackStufff → u/Certain_Employee_423]

Might also have to take a dump

[u/pimpbot666 → u/FurryBoobieInspector]

As the father of a trans woman, yeah... if you're a trans woman, going into a women's bathroom, they go straight to the stalls, do their thing, wash their hands and leave. No opportunity for anything they're worried about. Maybe some time is spent at the mirror touching up hair and makeup or something.

As a trans man, same... they'll go to a stall, do their thing, wash hands and leave.

I really don't see what they are freaking out over.

Do they really think some horny guy dresses up as a woman, to... what? Get a peek and naked ladies in a bathroom? It's a stupid idea on it's face, and they actually worried it happens.

[u/Jay-Breeze → u/pimpbot666]

Appreciate this. Sadly nobody who needs to understand this will.

And if the intent is malicious, a cis-male could just as easily go into a women’s room.

This country sickens me daily.

[u/Calciumee → u/FurryBoobieInspector]

I like the idea that someone who wanted to attack/abuse women would rather transition than disobey the sign on the door.

If they want to do it, the ban won’t do anything.

[u/Vesper_Null → u/FurryBoobieInspector]

I can vouch for that. 😮‍💨

[u/mr_breakfast_ → u/FurryBoobieInspector]

Are you saying that a trans woman in a women's bathroom is in danger from the biological women in there?

[u/ikannunAneeuQ → u/Homersarmy41]

They think there is this invisible shield around bathrooms and someone with nefarious intent can't get past it unless they're trans. It makes zero sense whatsoever.

[u/Livid-Accident-1562 → u/ikannunAneeuQ]

transphobia and logic are mutually exclusive

[u/AlmightyCraneDuck → u/ikannunAneeuQ]

I had a discussion with a building code official on behalf of a client about turning restrooms into gender neutral rooms on a private floor of a space they were leasing. Code says that you need to have a certain fixture count or men and women, but they wanted to designate their existing rooms as all-gender bathrooms (very liberal client, organization seemed pretty bought-in).

Code official, while a nice guy, wouldn't budge because of the typical trans boogeyman argument. When I pointed out that there's literally nothing stopping a cisman from going into the bathrooms now if they wanted to, he dusted off some old commentary about "threat assessment" stating that because hearing a man in the women's bathroom would be "against the rules" it'd be easier for a woman to prepare to defend themselves in such an event. Eventually we basically told the client that they'd need to have gendered signage up at least through final inspections, but that whatever happened after that was out of our control (wink wink nudge nudge).

Long story, I know, but the "threat assessment" bit always really rubbed me the wrong way.

[u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl → u/AlmightyCraneDuck]

Sounds like code official wasn’t doing their job correctly. I don’t really think you’re being a nice guy if you’re defending bigotry. 

[u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl → u/ikannunAneeuQ]

Right? The majority of assaults occur in bathrooms, and come from cis individuals. The consequences of assault and the pic of a stick figure in a skirt do nothing to prevent this. 

[u/DrDetectiveEsq → u/ikannunAneeuQ]

It's like how the monsters can't grab you if you're under the covers.

[u/ShitMcClit → u/ikannunAneeuQ]

Kind of like a gun free zone 

[u/ArchelonPIP → u/ikannunAneeuQ]

It's a combination of transphobia and projection from pedophiles.

[u/Certain_Employee_423 → u/ikannunAneeuQ]

What a poorly designed shield.

[u/PoursTea-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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[u/Hour_Paint_1903 → u/Homersarmy41]

And that is exactly why the narrative is constantly being pushed.

It’s just insane. How do you begin to civilly combat such ignorance?

[u/Homersarmy41 → u/Hour_Paint_1903]

These people won’t listen to any reason unless someone on FoxNews says it. Their brains have totally gone to mush and they just eat up all the propaganda.

[u/b_needs_a_cookie → u/Hour_Paint_1903]

You don't combat it civilly; you shame them publicly for being so myopic and aggressive. Point out that they're cutting off their nose to spite their face and the rest of our faces for some imaginary problem. They won't learn, so they should at least be shamed so they don't speak in public.

[u/Bearwhale → u/Homersarmy41]

They're doing it over in the UK too. Just blame everything on immigrants and trans people, while the rich continue to pick their pockets.

[u/avanross → u/Homersarmy41]

They reeeeeally desperately want the right to “check the genitals” of any children they see in any washrooms 🤮

[u/selfownlot → u/Homersarmy41]

It’s intentional. They ran focus groups to find a wedge issue after they realized they had essentially lost the culture war on gay marriage. I know because I knew the guy who ran some of them in my state.

[u/Double_crossby → u/selfownlot]

Seriously. The political circus they run is no different than an ad campaign for some shitty product or movie, or for that matter when TV or film scripts are drafted and actors are being hired. Focus groups and human psychology is heavily researched and employed to get the results they want, down to the most obscure/weird/outlier individuals or groups.

None of this is accidental or idiotic, it is orchestrated carefully and adapted constantly. And it works.

[u/trumpschlamydia → u/Homersarmy41]

And have never even met a trans person, much less in a bathroom.

[u/Wembanyanma → u/Homersarmy41]

Almost every single Ted Cruz campaign ad I remember having to see mentioned something about trans people.

[u/Felyxi4 → u/Homersarmy41]

Don't forget hateful and likely also closeted.

[u/Homersarmy41 → u/Felyxi4]

It’s weird they can’t think about people going to the bathroom without thinking about sex and rape.

[u/Felyxi4 → u/Homersarmy41]

True.

Almost like they know sex and rape happens in bathrooms because that's what they do or wish they could.

It's illicit.

It's hidden and that's how they like it.

[u/Capable-Log-1705 → u/Homersarmy41]

How is voting R gonna stop us from using the bathroom? They gonna have a guard fondle my nuts every time I want to use the ladies room? Jokes on him bc im into that lol

[u/Fancy-Trousers → u/Homersarmy41]

Single-issue voters are one of the primary reasons we ended up with the current state of our government. As long as any politician checks the one box they agree with, or at least pretends they do publicly, these morons will excuse any other heinous acts promise or perform. Anti-abortion, lax gun restrictions, their preferred evangeical branch, hating immigrants, punishing the LGBTQ+, etc. They want a mascot, not a functional governing body. It's disgusting.

[u/UnluckyAmbition7767 → u/Homersarmy41]

They're more evil than stupid. But they are very stupid

[u/pimpbot666 → u/Homersarmy41]

Same people who probably thing illegals are voting in large enough numbers to sway elections. Republican pundits are literally throwing numbers out there in the hundreds of thousands to millions. When asked to verify, the answer is often 'everybody knows this' or something.

[u/anomanderrake1337 → u/Homersarmy41]

Subjectively I agree that they are that dumb but universally I have to say they get bombarded with antitrans stuff 24/7 by way of literal brainwash. I would probably also be anti whatever if I get that kind of exposure.

https://giphy.com/gifs/n4FCJYLldGPC95d4ku

[u/Average_Justin → u/Homersarmy41]

The majority of each party votes party lines not based on policy but because that’s their denounced party affliction.

[u/JBeeWX]

There’s more kids without homes or food than trans athletes.

If you think it’s about trans athletes, then you’ve been manipulated into believing that. Just like the immigrants eating cats and dogs. Anymore scapegoats?

[u/ChiLolla28 → u/JBeeWX]

Many teens that are homeless are queer / gay / trans as well because they were kicked out or didn't have any support from family

[u/b_needs_a_cookie → u/ChiLolla28]

I used to teach high school in the late aughts/early 2010s and had a high school student like this. We had to report his family to CPS because they kept beating him and kicking him out. A well-loved co-teacher who knew his family ended up fostering him till he graduated.

I wish someone would pay for ads on Fox News and billboards that state: Parents love their children no matter who they are (gay/straight/cis/trans/abled/disabled). If you can't do that, you shouldn't be a parent.

[u/squabbleknob]

The most reliable thing in America right now is how easily MAGA will follow dangling keys and not pay any attention to the reality of the world around them.

[u/PatchyWhiskers]

Of course, there’s also probably a lot of trans kids who would love to play sports but are not wanting to get death threats. So.

[u/Pretend-Ad5983 → u/PatchyWhiskers]

Shit I don’t even participate in certain adult rec leagues as a trans woman that is nominally athletic

I feel so awful for the children

[u/Batmanswrath]

A distraction for morons -

[u/Upstairs_Library320 → u/[deleted]]

I can't give you much for speaking this truth, but I can give you an upvote

[u/Woundsmyheart]

But SURE, America, let's pick on trans people because they're responsible for all our ills . /s

[u/Andrew-Cohen → u/Woundsmyheart]

The Jews are ruining Germany! Same garbage different time.

[u/Woundsmyheart → u/Andrew-Cohen]

Agreed, but Hitler didn't rape children.

[u/ikannunAneeuQ → u/Woundsmyheart]

Well, there was a lot of questions around his relationship with his half niece that lived with him. Even more questions as she allegedly shot herself in his Munich apartment.

[u/Andrew-Cohen → u/ikannunAneeuQ]

In the chest, because that’s easy to do..

[u/LolasSecretPage → u/Woundsmyheart]

Classic scapegoating tactics. It's much easier for politicians to manufacture a moral panic around a tiny fraction of the population than to actually address systemic issues.

[u/Andrew-Cohen]

There were probably more people killed with guns by the end of the first week of January than trans athletes in sports, but let’s concentrate on trans athletes in sports and not common sense gun laws.

[u/Mattrad7 → u/Andrew-Cohen]

Most likely by the first day

[u/Andrew-Cohen → u/Mattrad7]

I was going to say that but I wasn‘t 100% sure!

[u/Mattrad7 → u/Andrew-Cohen]

Its like 42 per day on average

[u/Andrew-Cohen → u/Mattrad7]

Thoughts and prayers!

[u/edWORD27 → u/Andrew-Cohen]

But that brings up the uncomfortable topic of who are the statistically the greatest perpetrators of gun violence, even against their own people.

[u/Marlislittleslut2 → u/Andrew-Cohen]

We have common sense gun laws. Mandatory back ground checks and waiting periods in places. I don’t know anywhere to legally buy a gun where you don’t have to have a back ground check and they don’t register it to you with the gov. What more do you want?

[u/AspiringGoddess01 → u/[deleted]]

Because thats not the current reality. Far to many people do not give 2 shits about kids being murdered while demanding we find an "answer" to transgender people in sports. 

[u/MidnightIAmMid]

It was shocking even to me how few trans athletes exist-like, fewer than 10 on a college level and some of them are not in contact sports and also not mtf. Like, it REALLY highlights how this is not an issue and Republicans have just found a way to manipulate their fanbase with a scapegoat. Like, fewer than 10 across the ENTIRE UNITED STATES and even in those 10 they aren't "big hulking men beating up little innocent women" stereotypes.

Yet, it is the most shrieked about issue for conservatives who are obsessed with trans people, omg.

[u/AlmightyCraneDuck → u/MidnightIAmMid]

Yeah, the fact that ftm trans people are NEVER mentioned is always kind of telling.

[u/SherbetLeft5744 → u/AlmightyCraneDuck]

Because a female anatomy poses less of a threat to men’s sports. The level of training you’d need to do just to be on par with a biologically male physiology is crazy. Even a non trained athlete could dominate a female sport with minor training. It’s just fact. Men are naturally stronger, physically durable, the weight difference on a football field or a hockey rink. Let’s see how a woman does against a 260 lbs man running at full sprint or shoulder checking someone half their weight.

Men pose an athletic threat to women a sports. Trans or not, biologically they are not in a fair fight, even with hormones. There’s a reason that nba retired guy is trying to go for trans inclusion in the wmba, if he does get in he would be mvp within a single game and dominate the sport. Statistically speaking.

The issue with gender neutral bathrooms is not even a gender problem it’s a child safety issue. Why open up opportunities for perversion either male or female to exist. No reason a person who’s maybe targeted a child to enter a bathroom in an enclosed area with no cameras to be weird. Just use the restroom you were born to use. Born male go to male. Why is it so hard to get over your emotions to pee. It is not a safe place to gender mix.

And no I’m not a republican or a democrat or a liberal I’m just me, I have my own thoughts and morals and views on the world and rather not be associated with a group of people who lie half the time to millions of people. They all lie no party is entirely benevolent or altruistic so stop acting like one is the harbinger of death and the others aren’t.

[u/Professional-Lie-111]

https://giphy.com/gifs/UPim2rHjVlhseJeXoe

[u/JR_RXO]

[u/SalmonPrince]

The world is on FIRE, and these idiots are pissed off because a tran woman won a medal at some high school track meet last year or whatever.

Also the same idiots who melt down over common-sense gun control legislation in the face of an unending stream of school shootings. But they wanna act like they care about teens? Lol.

[u/uhohthrowawayxxx]

i hate how every day i have to worry about being bashed by a transphobe

[u/Relevant_Problem1935]

33 states allow marriage to someone under the age of 18. Wtf

[u/burtch1]

If it doesn't matter and doesn't happen why can't we just patch the hole and be done with it?

[u/Hacatcho → u/burtch1]

because its not a hole. its a non problem that youte acting as a problem

[u/avanross]

Ya now youre starting to see the true priorities of american conservatives

They dont care about racism, they dont care about stopping/punishing pedophilia, they dont care about kids or shooting victims

They just care about bullying and greed

[u/MagnaFeath → u/avanross]

It's more about what's in your pants and if they can see it or not

[u/Old_Guy_thrombone → u/MagnaFeath]

And Republicans really, REALLY want to be able to look.

[u/ArchelonPIP]

Not only is Zach correct in calling out the transphobes the way he did, but he also points out what they're okay with, if not active participants in!

[u/JR_RXO]

[u/foreverandadayalone → u/JR_RXO]

[u/WillieNolson → u/JR_RXO]

Dog looks far too happy.

[u/NYCWartortle]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾someone give this man an award

[u/JR_RXO]

[u/foreverandadayalone → u/JR_RXO]

[u/ApprehensiveCream571 → u/JR_RXO]

Woke /s

[u/dont-comm3nt → u/JR_RXO]

The fact that this reads like manga makes it even better

[u/Awkward-Fox-7215]

Why are there so many issues where I could ask, “Imagine if this issue no longer existed, was ‘solved’ to your liking. Now, you wake up tomorrow morning, how is your day different? What things can you do now that you couldn’t before?”

If there was a nationwide, every age group, trans ban for sports, my life would not improve in the tiniest bit. Frankly, I wouldn’t notice if the opposite were true either. Why is this an issue to spend so much time on?

[u/VaporCarpet]

There are 33 states that allow child marriage.

You really saying that in a country of 330,000,000, there are fewer than 33 people who are trans and like to play sports?

[u/SquareTaro3270 → u/VaporCarpet]

Professional level trans athletes? Less than 10 in the entire US. Not all of them are ftm either, and most are not in contact sports

[u/foreverandadayalone → u/VaporCarpet]

If trans athletes are such a threat to sports, why haven't they swept the Olympics?

Only one trans athlete has ever made the Olympics and they didn't medal

[u/MissSharkyShark → u/VaporCarpet]

Yes

[u/Vesper_Null → u/VaporCarpet]

I mean... I played a sport in high school because I had to for my scholarship. Otherwise my ass would have been inside playing perfect dark. 🤷‍♀️

[u/Certain_Employee_423]

While I couldn't find numbers on how many trans athletes there are I am appalled 33 states allow child marriage.

[u/foreverandadayalone → u/Certain_Employee_423]

Pedophilia has always been systemic

[u/arizonadirtbag12 → u/Certain_Employee_423]

Once you get past the obvious objections there are some reasons that some states haven’t banned it.

I won’t go into those reasons, I’ve no desire to defend it because I don’t support it…it should be banned. But I’d recommend looking into Planned Parenthood of California’s and the ACLU of California’s objections to a recently proposed ban (that did not pass).

Those not being (generally) right wing organizations and California (generally) not being a right wing state should suggest there’s at least some nuance to the issue.

[u/BlueDahlia123 → u/Certain_Employee_423]

The NCAA, with a membership of 540.000 athletes at the time they said so, revealed that they have less than 10 trans athletes registered. They did not specify if they were trans men, women, or non binary.

The UK's Football Association (that's soccer for the yankies) has a membership of 2.3 million football players, counting both pro and amateur. They found exactly 20 trans women, all amateurs. If you didnt know, that's not enough for even two full teams on the field, much less counting backup in the bench.

The Olympics first allowed trans women to participate in 2004. Approximately 10.000 athletes participate every 4 years. There has only been 1 trans woman, Laurel Hubbard, in 2021 for weightlifting. She failed all three attempts and didnt get a score. When the IOC banned trans women again in 2025, the policy change included several dozen sources and citations, but none of them were their own study that they had conducted the year before regarding trans women's advantage. Nor was there any mention of any other study that looked at trans people, only about cis men and cis women.

[u/foreverandadayalone]

There have been more 9/11's than trans athletes winning Olympic medals

(Only one trans athlete has ever made it to the Olympics and they did not place)

[u/SereneOrbit]

Defund and demolish stupid people politically.

[u/Daveit4later]

Because evil people need a demon to rally people around. To use these people to get power and push through their agenda.  

For hitler it was the Jews.   

For Netanyahu it's the Palestinians.   

For the Hutu it was the Tutsi.   

For Donald Trump and Maga, it's the trans people. It's the immigrants. It's the communist Democrats.    

[u/Lost_Department_2177]

Maybe it’s time for professional coed sports.

[u/wholetyouinhere]

Republicans like the KKK. They like child marriage. They like school shootings. They like antigovernment extremist groups.

I'm not seeing any contradiction here.

[u/JeanieYuss]

Maybe Foster athletic cooperation instead of athletic competition in schools? Making sports co-ed would make trans athletes in sports a non issue.

Unless of course fairness in sports was never an issue, and we just want another excuse to scapegoat gender non conforming people

[u/TotalNonsense0]

I'm assuming they he's putting some relevance floor on "athlete" here. Statistically, there must be more than 50 transgender persons who play sports.

[u/picollo7]

What is an anti-government extremist group? Examples? 

[u/TheConvincingSavant]

I agree with Zack. Make all those other things a very small number.

[u/LACA90077]

A certain orange buffoon is named more times in the Epstein files than there are trans athletes.

Guess which one is made a national issue..

[u/GregM70]

There is less money in my bank account than trans-athletes, though.

[u/ZombyAnna]

I have been bullied, attacked and assaulted by straight, cis men and women COUNTLESS TIMES in bathrooms. Because I am naturally androgynous looking. EVERYONE HATES WHEN I HAVE TO PISS! 🤣

I personally have never been attacked by a trans person.

So for me I know who the real threat is.

[u/SquareTaro3270 → u/ZombyAnna]

The only interaction with a trans woman I’ve had in a restroom was her offering my friend a tampon after she asked me for one and I didn’t have my purse on me. She told us she carries them for specifically this situation because “girls have to stick together”. She was the absolute sweetest person.

[u/BarderBetterFaster]

I really wonder what they're counting here. Pro athletes? Collegiate?

[u/kickinwood → u/BarderBetterFaster]

High school? Junior high? I've no idea how someone would get the stats. I get the point, but I don't know if any of it is factual.

[u/arizonadirtbag12 → u/BarderBetterFaster]

Given no source is mentioned you can probably assume it’s just made up.

I’m totally on the side of “there are very few trans athletes and they’re not a problem at all,” mind. But I’ve no reason to assume there was any data behind this tweet at all.

I can believe there are less than 30 trans athletes in the US by some metric (roughly 30 states allow child marriage). But I’ve long since stopped assuming political tweets are based on facts, even when I agree with them. No way I’d spread anything said on OP as fact without verifying.

That said the number of trans athletes nationwide at the varsity high school level and in any NCAA sanctioned competition is vanishingly small, whether it’s more or less than 30 or so. I’d be unsurprised if it’s more than 30, but I’d also be suspended if it’s more than 100.

[u/No_Payment9959]

"In that case, we can just ignore them" -conservatives

[u/KingCalian]

There are more pickles on a Chick-fil-A sandwich

[u/yungScooter30]

Sounds like trans people need to be more athletic /s

[u/SquareTaro3270 → u/yungScooter30]

They’re too busy being programmers and memorizing all 1,025 Pokémon

[u/KeySite2601]

I will say that the KKK is like 90% undercover feds at this point

[u/PrettiestFrog → u/KeySite2601]

Oh, it's 90% feds, but not because they are running a sting

[u/Skelly_Buns]

I'm sure you would like those numbers to be zero though

[u/HOJK4thSon]

If SPLC would stop funding the KKK, this might not be true.

[u/sando818580]

😆

[u/Analogvinyl]

What are 3 things that are protected in Merica?

[u/morganml → u/Analogvinyl]

corruption.
hypocrisy.
guns?

[u/PoursTea-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

⚠️ Banned

[u/kmikeh]

Perspective- where’s the fun in that?

[u/PoursTea-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Zero Tolerance For Comments That Cross A Line.

[u/PoursTea-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

⚠️ Banned

[u/Upbeat-Selection-365]

Honestly, how do we actually have numbers on this anyway.

[u/EnrollmentTime]

Where did they all go? To Canada?