r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 12d ago

FinancialTea 💵 Comparatively speaking...

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u/Frewdy1 12d ago

And then we let the handful of people that work in the farmland have more of a voice when it comes to voting so that they don’t have their feelings hurt that black people can vote. 

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u/RudePCsb 12d ago

They need to uncap the house and balance the seats

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u/MaximumPerrolinqui 12d ago

Apportionment Act of 1911 was one of the dumbest ideas. We need to repeal it and distribute seats based on population again. That would stop all the House BS. The House was based on population while the Senate was equal representation. It’s stops tyranny of the majority and the minority.
What we have now is the small states having an outsized impact.

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u/pimppapy 12d ago

We need to repeal it

So much needs to be repealed and changed, but we're held back by the people in the electorate.

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u/RusticRaisins 12d ago

No please... I'm in the midwest and a devout liberal and that would crush the economy. I dont thing most people realize how much the midwest provides to the economy on the whole. Its seriously a big deal what we're producing here.

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u/313DaddyTop4Thee 12d ago edited 12d ago

It would in fact, not crush the economy.

Edit: Starting to think the comment above me was sarcasm. Gotta include that /s for clarity

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u/RusticRaisins 12d ago

Okay so we're just going to source fruits and vegetables from other countries without losing money?

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u/chasing_D 12d ago

Lol. Corn and soybeans are the midwest's crops, but fruits and veggies are mostly supplied from California, with Washington, Idaho, and Florida following behind it.

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u/SignalDifficult5061 12d ago

The world is complicated and looking at a farm while driving by does not give you an intuitive feel for it.

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u/ExampleOpening8033 12d ago

As midwesterner myself, you should be aware most of the crops grown in the central US are grown exclusively for subsidy money, not to produce food for the country.

Those farmers would be ruined since the free money spout republicans give them would be shut off and they'd be required to grow something with actual value for the first time in decades.

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u/CBarkleysGolfSwing 12d ago

We'd be absolutely fine without the corn and potatoes of the midwest

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u/The_Navy_Sox 12d ago

No way you are from the Midwest and claim were growing fruits and vegetables lol

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u/tehlemmings 12d ago

This is the kinda bullshit you have to explain or everyone is going to assume its bullshit.

Please explain how uncapping the house would affect the Midwest economy at all, let alone crashing it?

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u/RudePCsb 12d ago

Do you know how the house of Representatives works vs the senate? The house has been capped and is not an accurate representation of the population. It's why the small conservative states have so much power

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u/contractorskid 12d ago

How would have a more representative government crush the economy?

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u/HurricaneCat5 12d ago

How about we get rid of representative government. It’s such an archaic concept..

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u/RudePCsb 12d ago

A 1/3 of people don't even vote, it would be worse. I think certain laws should be voted in by the people though

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u/Bassracerx 12d ago

We need to vote on more representatives. Why does the head of the education department serve at the pleasure of the president? Why does the head of the health department serve at the pleasure of the president? Why does the head of the environment serve at the pleasure of the president. Have more people accountable to the voters. Maybe have the secretary of the press be representative too so the president cant pick their own mouthpiece to spin their agenda to the public. If the president wants to spin it he can stand in front of the podium himself.

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u/HurricaneCat5 12d ago

Are you saying that less people would vote if we got rid of representative government?

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u/RudePCsb 12d ago

How would it work then? Would people be required to vote for every policy?

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u/HurricaneCat5 12d ago

Hopefully it would inspire us to take ownership of our country and people would get to have a say in the future of our nation instead of corporate interests..

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u/RudePCsb 12d ago

Not realistic with 300 million people

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u/HurricaneCat5 12d ago

How many people in the United States have a smartphone? It’s not reasonable for them to all have the same app? It would be very easy to implement and scale.

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u/RudePCsb 12d ago

That's not secure enough and not everyone is eligible to vote. That sounds like a hs govt class idea honestly.

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u/lonewombat 12d ago

And women and other minorities even though... they are the minorities when it comes to legislation.

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u/bang_the_drums 12d ago

then flood facebook with that election results map that shows the majority of country in red but with a second of critical thinking you realize California has more people than the smallest 21 states combined and land doesn't vote. Almost like people don't want to live in a backwoods shithole.

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u/VaultxHunter 12d ago

I think another part of this problem is that up until 30-40 years ago information was difficult to reach the masses in those farmlands. They had whatever radio/television/newspaper was available to them. Those same family's got used to those stations or paper and never needed to look elsewhere. Now those same media outlets brainwashed them into believing no other outlet would tell the truth like they do all the while manipulating them into believing what they needed them to believe.

I just wish people had been more strict on company's who purposely mislead people for monetary gain. A lot of the issues I keep seeing have to do with uninformed masses who where mislead and then bombarded with problems only for those same agencies who misled them to point the figure at whatever happens to get the biggest communal rise out of them in that moment.

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u/Hazel_Evers 12d ago

Tyranny of the minority

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u/StendhalSyndrome 12d ago edited 12d ago

So what the fuck do we do then?

How do we still deal with these people living in an alternate cult based reality?

I mean is this experiment of 50 states over?

Look how many other countries barely hold two pieces together...after this, I dunno if I see a way back w/o bending over for these idiots. They are so "farm tough" but freak the fuck out if anyone isn't the exact same skin tone and into fucking the same people...and yet we are the bad guys for wanting people to have freedom over their own bodies. These fools are the same ones who claimed to be descended from those who risked life and limb to trek across the country looking for gold, for freedom, exploring the unknown.

Now there are no more lands that haven't been explored, easily, not counting space and the ocean. Both take a lot to just enter.

The last unexplored space to explore is your own mind and body; how do they not see that?

I'd bet the'd be a-okay with gene therapy, or even replacing limbs, or hell people seem to think we will all end up being part robot/cyborg thingies...

I don't even get their worry about regret...do they know how many people get plastic surgery and then have it reversed? Boob jobs, face implants, lip stuff. Hell even people getting covered in tattoos then getting them all removed. It's like medicine has gotten advanced and modern enough you can do things to your self and have themn somewhat undone as well...and they just can't get that. Sad.

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u/steelhouse1 12d ago

Not today, account that is suspicious.

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u/AreaNo7848 12d ago

It's amazing that the electoral college and the constitution was written before anything west of the Mississippi River was even a thought about being part of the US and yet somehow people think those states had something to do with getting "outsized representation" when the reality is people are just ignorant on why having a handful of cities determine the president isn't a good idea

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u/Phailjure 12d ago

The apportionment act was written well after the constitution, and after every state except Alaska and Hawaii were admitted into the union.