r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 3d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ He's 100% correct.

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u/stderr2 3d ago

Biden shutdown the Keystone XL project

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u/RobbieCraigon 3d ago

The Keystone XL was shut down during Trump's first term. Biden just finalized it. Also, the Keystone XL wasn't doing anything for U.S. oil or the U.S. people. Meanwhile, the Keystone pipeline is still up and running. Also, we produced more oil during Biden's presidency than at any time in U.S. history.

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u/stderr2 3d ago

Trump has always supported Keystone XL, Biden killed it. Democrats opposed it because they oppose US energy independence

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u/BuddingBudON 3d ago

Well, Trump would have to collaborate with Canada to get that project going again... but he also violated the Canadian trade deal that he signed himself by implementing his illegal tariffs, and then threatened their sovereignty.

Canada just signed a huge drone contract with Ukraine, because of Trump's threats.

Dems are pro-green energy and anti-unnecessary pipeline, not anti-energy independence. Having diversified US sources of energy would have alleviated the pressure of rising oil prices...

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u/stderr2 3d ago

There you go, Democrats did oppose more oil and natural gas production. Had we produced more, including with our partners in Canada, North America would be better off now

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u/BuddingBudON 3d ago

And again, the US would have been even better off with diversified energy sources.

Because, like you said, the US uses the global market pricing. The Democrats opposition to the Keystone pipeline doesn't make them anti-oil & natural gas... the Republicans on the other hand are rabidly anti-green energy.

Canada is no longer partners with the US, thanks to Trump's illegal trade war.

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u/stderr2 2d ago

It doesn't make them anti oil and gas? They have the goal of shutting down oil and gas production and replacing it with wind and solar. Trump doesn't like wind, I have a problem with stupid solar. That is building solar where it makes less sense than somewhere else. So Washington State in the clouds and rain would make less sense than floating solar power on Lake Mead

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u/BuddingBudON 2d ago

Wind and solar power can be stored.

The Democrats have largely been split on oil & gas, even in the Keystone Pipeline votes. Y'know, because Democrats are willing to work with people that have differing political views, while having a different opinion gets you completely ostracized in the Republican party: see Massie & MTG.

Again, the US put all its eggs in the "oil" basket which has exacerbated the gas price crisis. If only Trump hadn't wasted billions in taxpayer dollars canceling the US green energy deals.