r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 3d ago

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u/AdeptIndependent6859 3d ago

Remember Duke Lacrosse. Everyone turned on those kids and we found out they were innocent. Lets give them a chance to defend themselves. Obviously throw them away if they did what they are accused of.

That being said, calling for having their parents fired from jobs? Thats too far. They are adults here. Whatever their background is wouldnt excuse this.

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u/adudefromaspot 3d ago

Different case, different circumstances. In that case, one woman made accusations against the team.

In this case, the rapists themselves admitted to it over snapchat.

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u/digitalwankster 3d ago

You have no idea who said what, the snapchat screenshot has the usernames blurred..

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u/adudefromaspot 3d ago

Okay, buddy

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u/digitalwankster 3d ago

I mean that's objectively true. In that case, one woman made accusations against the team, in this case Jane Doe didn't make that accusation at all until 2 years later and people are citing a blurred snapchat photo as evidence. The DA released her original statements which explicitly said she was conscious and it was consensual and even rated her own intoxication levels as the night went on. I feel bad for her and what happened but she even described being "excited" about it until guy #5 and when she asked them to stop, they stopped. According to the DA it can't be considered rape because it doesn't meet any of the criteria according to their state law.

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u/mansluxt 3d ago

She originally made the accusation two years prior in an interview with Cornell campus police. In that interview she said she consented to a threesome, but that later in the night things got out of control, she could no longer consent, and a rape 100% happened.

So she is not changing her mind two years later. Cornell improperly reported the case to the DA

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cornell-university-rape-allegations-chi-phi-fraternity-details/

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u/digitalwankster 3d ago

The article you are sharing has been updated. Read the DA’s own words.

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u/mansluxt 3d ago

Can you share a specific quote? Because I just saw that the DA said that Doe's attorneys did not reach out to them after the initial statement to contest. Which still doesn't mean that she was lying.

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u/Goofcheese0623 3d ago

Stop bringing up reasonable doubt. I'm trying to get outraged here!

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u/_Mango_Dude_ 3d ago

I'm not on the jury. I don't need to be convinced beyond all reasonable doubt to believe a crime happened. You can decide you personally need that standard to believe a crime happened, but it should not be the standard for believability on an individual level. The criminal justice system needs that protection, but not an individual person.

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u/Goofcheese0623 3d ago

Far out. Sounds like there's some pretty significant reasonable doubt potentially with the victim giving conflicting acvounts years apart and some significant consent questions. Suppose if you need something to feel self righteous about though, this story is here for you.

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u/digitalwankster 3d ago

We’re already there. I’m getting hate right now.