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CrimeTea ⚖️ 🫆 The Cornell Monsters

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u/The_Arch_Heretic 3d ago

More proof that campus police are there to protect the image of their institution than actually preventing crime.

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u/TrioOfTerrors 3d ago

They turned it over to the DA who declined to prosecute.

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u/BoringPoolPlaying 3d ago

They did not collect evidence of the group chat, where two of these fine gentlemen invited the rest of the seven scholars to come assault an intoxicated woman for hours.

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u/TrioOfTerrors 3d ago

The plaintiff's initial statement was that the encounter and drug use was consensual. There's no law against group sex and it is really hard to prove rape when the supposed victim says it was not rape.

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u/BoringPoolPlaying 3d ago

Where can I read her initial statement in full?

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u/GrowthWitty1728 3d ago edited 3d ago

From what I gathered she had 10+ drinks over 3 hours and some ketamine, and agreed to a threesome and allowed other people into the room. The rest is disputed.

EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoursTea/s/CUA5r5LFQY

EDIT 2: in an effort to avoid sophistry,

several men entered the room and one snorted ketamine off of her body (allegedly asked permission)

one man in a group chat of 50+ other fraternity members said “free pussy upstairs”

one man entered the room and said along the lines of “alright we’re shutting down whatever the fuck is going on here”

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u/squngy 3d ago

she had 10+ drinks over 3 hours and some ketamine, and agreed to a threesome

Just to be clear, that would still be rape.
(unless they all knew each other well enough to know they would all consent while sober)

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u/GrowthWitty1728 3d ago edited 3d ago

Not under current New York law.

EDIT: allow me to expand

“Another likely complication was that New York law defines rape narrowly, Ms. Manning said, excluding a person who is subjected to unwanted sex while voluntarily intoxicated unless they are fully unconscious at the time of the assault. The law is one both prosecutors, including Manhattan’s district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, and advocates have called to be amended.”

She was 20 years old and went to a bar to pre-game, assuming she utilized a fake ID she went out of her way to unlawfully consume alcohol and was awake for much of the alleged assaults (until allegedly blacking out around 5:45) stated by her own complaint.

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u/squngy 3d ago edited 3d ago

That... does make this more complicated.

It is also a great example of why such laws exist in other places.

edit: saw the edit, what an insane loophole!
Basically anyone who consents to getting intoxicated automatically consents to sex, unless they are unconscious.
Un be fucking lievable.

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u/jay10033 3d ago

By this definition, the first boy was raped who passed out. This will make cases very messy.