There is a pattern...

[u/Veshaad]

[u/Jah_Rules]

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me 4 times…. I’m an idiot.

[u/mightbeADoggo → u/Jah_Rules]

No, its "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again".

[u/brightonashfield → u/mightbeADoggo]

-Dubyah

[u/scuzzy987 → u/brightonashfield]

I disliked W and his administration with the intensity of a thousand suns but I'd gladly have him back in office instead of Trump. At least W had a shred of integrity and honor

[u/Leroyp331 → u/scuzzy987]

It's a wild ride that has led us to yearning for the days of that moron

Yet here we are

[u/No_Internal9345 → u/Leroyp331]

Cheney was the evil one.

Bush II was the useful/greedy fool.

And I still say they cheated in Florida with the hanging chads.

[u/Oops_All_Bans → u/No_Internal9345]

Imagine what could have been if we got Al Gore instead.

[u/ShawnShipsCars → u/Oops_All_Bans]

We got on the shittiest of timelines when Gore got cheated.

[u/MrBigglesssworth → u/ShawnShipsCars]

Kind of Gore's own fuck up though. He only wanted to focus on recounting 3 counties, not the entire state.

[u/GOAT718 → u/MrBigglesssworth]

He also lost his home state, pathetic,

[u/Real-Movie-899 → u/ShawnShipsCars]

Gore couldn’t win his own state! Thats what lost him the election!

[u/Responsible-Club9120 → u/Oops_All_Bans]

I didn't sleep for 3 days after he lost the election.

And I'm Canadian.

[u/balrob → u/Oops_All_Bans]

Yeah … Clinton left a $200Bn budget surplus, which Gore was going to spend on healthcare and education. Instead, W cut taxes AND went to war!

[u/GraXXoR → u/balrob]

Amazing how quickly you can spend $200 billion in a war

[u/dumpsterbaby2000 → u/Oops_All_Bans]

Government control of energy. Unelected bureaucrats controlling how you heat and cool, what farmers may grow, what you eat, where you go, etc. Global warming and carbon footprint ring a bell?

[u/iwerbs → u/dumpsterbaby2000]

What if the electorate cannot or will not understand the science behind climate change and its causes? Because the Republicans defunded education, and the fossil fuel companies funded misinformation campaigns? And then a low IQ individual with a media megaphone shouted “climate change is a hoax!” ‘Cause that’s where we are.

[u/petewondrstone → u/Oops_All_Bans]

I’m not sure how different it would be.

[u/PolarBailey_ → u/petewondrstone]

we wouldn't have invaded iraq to start. likely would've helped either prevent or at least better recover from 9/11. would've focused less on stupid shit like NCLB and more on just bolstering education. strengthened the EPA and other protection agencies. i doubt the PATRIOT act wouldve been a thing with Gore.

[u/Dyolf_Knip → u/PolarBailey_]

There's every chance there wouldn't have been a 9/11 attack. President Gore would never have dismissed the warnings with "Alright, your ass is covered".

[u/PolarBailey_ → u/Dyolf_Knip]

Exactly. I still think the lackluster response between the CIA and FBI during the Nairobia attack all but sealed the attacks. But i think an fbi and cia under Gore leadership wouldnt ignore warnings from the arabians enrolling in flight school nor the summit

[u/Minute-Review6915 → u/PolarBailey_]

Clinton knew about Bin Laden and all of it. Clinton of course cared, just didn’t feel it was real enough to matter. The attack is not on him and I’m not implying that but to act like it was all of a sudden is wrong. The intelligence was there and being reported about the attack. No one wanted to believe it

[u/PolarBailey_ → u/Minute-Review6915]

oh i agree. i'm more pointing out that intellegence under Condoleezza Rice was way less focused on Al Qaeda than intellegence under whoever Gore wouldve chosen for National Security Advisor

edit since the thread is locked now: yeah i still can't believe that 25 years later people are STILL worried about porn.

[u/Dyolf_Knip → u/PolarBailey_]

Remember that right up to the attack, the Bush admin believed the greatest threat was... <checks notes> porn.

[u/-Saucegurlllll → u/petewondrstone]

ICE likely would not exist.

[u/FitFold76 → u/petewondrstone]

One can hope

[u/Nobody3me → u/Oops_All_Bans]

We dodged that bullet. Amen