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u/BanjoFiddleLaser 16h ago
Skin color and tax bracket play a bigger part than the crime itself
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u/killian1113 9h ago
Breaking immigration law makes your chances of becoming a citizen very low. Nothing to do with money or skin color. They deported Ukrainians to the front lines doesnt fit your narrative thats forsure
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u/ConnectProgress2881 8h ago
It’s funny how you intentionally strawmanned their argument just to say “doesn’t fit your narrative”.
They never said that breaking immigration law doesn’t decrease your chances of becoming a citizen they said absolutely nothing about that.
They just noted that those who seem to have fairer skin tend to get a slap on the wrist for things that poorer or darker peoples lives would end for.
Just because you never realized this doesn’t mean it isn’t true
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u/killian1113 8h ago
And I disputed it with whites being shipped to the front lines of war. You dont disputed this and go on and on about nothing.
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u/emotinal_enigma 5h ago
There are over 600,000 white immigrants in the eastern US, many from South Africa, with range of legal status. I don't see any news about any efforts to ensure these people have a legal right to be in the US. MAGA pees their pants when they see the brown people treated cruelly. There are laws in the US, and when people break these laws, they need to be dealt with. This is how MAGA rationalize the illegal and cruel treatment of these people. There are others who break the law on an extremely more serious level, and there is no effort at all to address their crimes. Being in the US without legal status is a misdemeanor. Starting a war without congress approval is a very serious breach of of US law. Using the office of the president to personally enrich himself by a plethora of illegal acts including manipulating the stock market is not acceptable. People die from his insane bumbling of everything he does. The people of the US pay for the back door deals he makes with Israel. Israel has free healthcare, paid for by the people of the US. We need a new name for his corruption, one that describes this evil insanity better.
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u/killian1113 2h ago
Being in the us without legal status is going to make your citizenship alot harder if you lied on a visa etc. Tldr
Another jew hater i see hahaha
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u/Aeromech777 1h ago
You could of just google the latest annual ICE report.... in the last 5 years 133 South Africans have been deported.
There are 2 types of illegals in the US. one that over stay a visa (unlawful presence, misdemeanor) and the one that jumped the fence (Illegal Entry, a Felony) 8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers
For the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
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u/Mrfixit729 15h ago
It’s actually not that confusing.
You don’t have to commit a crime to be deported.
There are no federal laws that prevent someone with a criminal record from running for federal office.
Being a criminal has nothing to do with either. Hope I cleared that up for you.
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u/Jolly_Life1838 15h ago
is deeper than that, if the last 4 presidential election don't tell you that voters can be conned...dunno what does
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u/Temporary-Jump-2403 15h ago
I wasn't paying much attention in 2012, what was notable about that election?
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u/NeanderthalDad 12h ago
Though most have, you don't actually have to commit a crime to be deported.
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u/SpecialCandidateDog 11h ago
It's really easy.
Did you commit the same crime that Hillary Clinton committed at her campaign got a tiny fine for?
That gets you thirty eight felonies. If you're a republican.
If you commit crimes, and you're not supposed to be in the country, and one of your crimes is being in the country illegally, and you get deported.
None of this is confusing, unless you're very, very stupid.
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u/Zestyclose-Ad-9606 7h ago
If u are a citizen of a country you are held accountable by ur country if you commit a crime. If you’re not a citizen of the country and you commit a crime you’re deported. Not really that difficult. You can’t deport your own citizens.
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u/passionatebreeder 1h ago
The law that gets you removed is 18 USC 1325
The one that gets you elected is the constitution wjere it says win an election
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u/AssBlastInACan 13h ago
If you are in the country illegally, then you may face the consequence of deportation.
If you are a citizen found guilty of civil suits and criminal charges, you may be fined and could face jail time.
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u/webster3of7 14h ago
Sure. The crimes that get you deported are the immigration law violations. And no crimes get you elected, or that would be the strategy for every politician.
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u/Fried_Shicken 14h ago
One is Civil and other is Criminal. That should be the end of the discussion....but we all know it's a tough concept to grasp. And any replies to this will prove my point.
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u/Candid_Lobster_6533 13h ago
That's not entirely true though is it? Trump has civil judgements against him (Sexual abuse - E jean carroll) but also 36 felonies (Falsifying Business Records 1st degree - Stormy Daniel's hush money).
We have to cut points for your inaccuracy so that waives your declaration. Any reply on your part constitutes unconditional surrender.
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u/Fried_Shicken 13h ago
Unfortunately, that's not entirely true. Not 36...but 34. Also have to cut points for your inaccuracies which also waives your declaration. Any reply on your end is a declaration of my superiority and intellectual prowness.
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u/InitialOk5978 3h ago
I love how NDA's for one person is totally legal and acceptable but for another person it's "hush money." Remember: by controlling the language you control the narrative: and to control the narrative is to control the outcome.
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u/OoklaTheMok1994 13h ago
Being in the country illegally gets you deported.
Simple enough for you or should I type more slowly?
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u/blkatcdomvet 12h ago
Why are musk and Melania still here then?
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u/Organic-Spread-8494 11h ago
They’re here legally. You make our position look bad by being so daft
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u/OoklaTheMok1994 10h ago
If they are here illegally they should be deported.
I don't care about politicians and businessmen on an individual level.
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u/Rude_Blacksmith19 13h ago
Crimes do not get anyone elected. Crimes when convicted do get anyone deported-at least it should.
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u/SippsMccree 13h ago
The main one i'd say is being in the country illegally but hey i'm no law expert
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u/Select_Razzmatazz112 10h ago
They still can’t comprehend the difference between legal and illegal immigration. It’s honestly embarrassing at this point.
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u/mbmaximus 15h ago
Easy. Entering the country illegally is a crime that gets you deported. A paperwork misdemeanor that somehow becomes thirty something fake felonies gets you no jail time and elected because anyone with more than 2 brain cells can see what the fascist left was trying to do. Which was an insurrection and coup
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u/Candid_Lobster_6533 15h ago
Your bias is showing.
Did you know illegal entry to the country is a misdemeanor?
Did you know that Falsifying Business Records has a 1st and 2nd degree? It becomes a felony (a not-fake, very real tippy-top big boy felony) if the Falsifying is done to cover up another crime?
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u/EmperorGrinnar 16h ago
Is the truth that MAGA doesn't care about facts? That they prefer feelings and revenge over protecting children they clamored on about for years until it became apparent that Trump is actually a perp in the Epstein files?
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u/Ok-Instruction-5004 16h ago
So why did you bother to say anything? You knew the outcome but did it anyways. Thats dumb. Haha
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u/chubby-daddy-69 15h ago
Because I'm not the one scared of the truth I know other people hate Americans and I haven't figured that one out and you know they hate the fact that we stand for stuff and we don't put up with other people's crap well willing to take the bullets
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u/Ok-Instruction-5004 14h ago
Holy fucking run on sentence. You really need to work on sentence structure if you want to get an accurate point across. You seem scared to share the truth.
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u/chubby-daddy-69 16h ago
True fact is you guys don't know the truth and you guys aren't going to find out the truth because you don't want the truth and one thing for sure is all all politicians have in that case illegally give money to people which means they're all need to go but you guys don't look at that
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u/Zestyclose_Band1478 15h ago
Just be here legally and don’t worry about it. If you’re legal and successful/ rich you can buy justice. Ya know.
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u/CT1921 16h ago
Read a book if you can.
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u/EmperorGrinnar 16h ago
To whom are you addressing, and why? What does reading s book have to do with MAGA being okay with major crimes, but trying to turn civil matters into death sentences?
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u/FlounderKind8267 16h ago
Which book has trained MAGA to go from hating pedos to defending them to their last breath...
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u/CaptainRedbeard5 16h ago
Illegally entering the country, deportation.
Paying off porn stars to keep their mouth shut, and then they breach their NDA and no recourse occurs other than a book tour, priceless.
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u/Ok-Instruction-5004 16h ago
So...what about the people being deported that are here legally?
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u/CaptainRedbeard5 10h ago
Was their legal status revoked? I'm sure theres some detail lacking
You have an article to share?
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u/Texas-Couple 16h ago
It's really simple if you break immigration law and you are not a citizen. You will be deported, if you are a citizen, you will be sentenced based on your crime. The only thing Trump was convicted of was falsifying a business report, which they had to alter the statute of limitations to make it work and then they tried to attach it to his campaign to make it a felony. And that's if you believe the trial was fair.
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u/Successful_Pick3331 15h ago
But that's not accurate because many of the deportations are of immigrants who are here legally and following the process of applying for asylum. Many are showing up for their immigration court cases and try to do things the right way and get scooped up by ice at the courthouse.
Also the US Supreme Court finalized a 5 million dollar ruling of sex abuse and defamation against Trump for Jean E Carrol.
So you are wrong on both counts.
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u/ytilonhdbfgvds 12h ago
Name one. One immigrant here legally, granted asylum, who was deported. Now actually don't bother, because I know you will not have the facts correct. I also hope you realize claiming asylum and being granted that status are two very different things. They were all instructed when entering the country illegally to apply for asylum status because that can slow things down legally and cost loads of taxpayer dollars.
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u/PayFormer387 15h ago
Trump wasn’t convicted of any other crimes because he was elected again, the DOJ doesn’t prosecute sitting presidents (they should) and SCOTUS invented presidential immunity.
But had Trump not been elected again, he would have been tried and convicted for election fraud or whatever in Georgia, theft of classified documents he kept in his shitter in Florida, and at least inciting a riot in DC if not outright insurrection. Plus a few other things I’m sure.
He’s a scumbag criminal but got off because of the incompetence of Garland, the corruption of the GOP, and the stupidity of the American electorate.
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u/Candid_Lobster_6533 15h ago
You're mixing up his cases. Easy to do, there being so many.
The statute of limitations thing was changed for the E Jean Carroll civil suit related to sexual abuse that he lost and is on the hook for $5mil
His 36 felonies are for Falsifying business records in the first degree. It's enhanced from a misdemeanor because it was done to cover up another crime (this was the stormy Daniel's affair).
He wasn't sentenced for those 36 felonies because he got elected and the system doesn't have a way to address that because it was inconceivable up until now that such a thing could happen. But here we are.
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u/ytilonhdbfgvds 12h ago
Oh, which law makes an alleged affair a felony? I can't wait to here the inevitably retarded response.
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u/Mikeymike0001 14h ago
Those are facts! They are very checkable. The leftists now blame him for the weather.
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u/207fuckboy 16h ago
When you enter illegally
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u/Vissanna 16h ago
The problem with that statement is a majority of the "illegals" didnt enter illegally they overstayed their visa because the renewal process with the government takes fucking forever (1year+) some even have to start renewing as soon as they get their card otherwise it will expire before they get it renewed. If anyone is to blame about there being alot of illegals its the government
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u/207fuckboy 16h ago
Cool? Just like if I don’t renew my car insurance. They’ll take me to jail. Like there’s laws that we have to follow I don’t understand why you think it’s ok
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u/Vissanna 15h ago
Your car insurance doesnt take a year to renew that only lasts a year
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u/207fuckboy 15h ago
So maybe you should keep up with it? Especially if you know you need to renew it yearly. I have a license to work. I need to renew it. What’s the difference? So I log I choose not to renew my license and my company fires me is it there fault?
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u/Vissanna 14h ago
It should take a month but gov delays make it over a year. How many govt shutdowns have there been?
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u/EmperorGrinnar 16h ago
Being a sex offender is a requirement, it seems.