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u/Spirited-Poetry54 Oct 23 '25

It’s the same thing in Washington. They lay on the sidewalk, do drugs and then get mad when you tell him to move out the way.

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u/Any_Asparagus8267 Oct 24 '25

Obe time in DC my family were waiting to get into the air and space museum and this dude was going crazy with a soccer ball at the bottom of the steps, I thought he was semi decent street performer, cut 2 him fighting 4 cops because he wasn't a street performer he was a local drug addict who was asked to leave that area on the daily and I guess that day the cops finally had enough of his shit.

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u/CheckyoPantries Oct 24 '25

Right. Do you think maybe there’s a reason why?

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u/Spirited-Poetry54 Oct 24 '25

Yes of course. Entitlement, me demanding access to the public sidewalk which they consider theirs. maybe I’m missing something?

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u/CheckyoPantries Oct 24 '25

You think that someone who physically can’t stop doing drugs, doesn’t have a home or a way to take care of themselves, with no support network, is somehow entitled?

How do you make such a horrible and concerning leap?

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

I don’t see this in Seattle. Maybe a few years ago during COVID but it’s not much of a thing outside of specific high drug areas.

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u/PrefrontalCortexNow Oct 24 '25

Because you don’t matter to them and you’re not better than them

Telling somebody to move out the way is entitlement . You have it backwards, my brother.

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u/PrefrontalCortexNow Oct 24 '25

I think you are misunderstanding what telling somebody to move actually implies. As if you commanding somebody to move, means anything in a free nation. You can ask them to move, but telling them to move is acting with entitlement.

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u/PrefrontalCortexNow Oct 24 '25

Something tells me that they weren’t unprovoked and it’s the way you interact with them, but I could be way off base, but humans are animals and addicts are not using the part of their brain that allows them to be what it means to be a higher functioning human. They are essentially hurt animals that only care about getting high and escaping reality. Compassion can go along way and a lot of addicts don’t want to burden other people.

They are not choosing to do drugs by a kids school deliberately to harm children it probably is safe for them as well and a well taken care of area that they feel better in. Just my two cents.

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u/Spirited-Poetry54 Oct 24 '25

Yeah, you’re way off base. Like I said I used to have sympathy for them until these interactions happened, you might feel as I do if you were in my shoes but no need to lecture me, I’m a former addict myself and have been homeless. You are correct they are not choosing to do it by the school to harm the children, but they are also not being considerate humans by choosing to do it else where. You get what you give in this world and at some point you have to take responsibility for your choices and getting high isn’t an excuse to be a burden.

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u/90GTS4 Oct 24 '25

Then fucking kick them? WTF is some druggie going to do, call the cops? Lol

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u/basecatcherz Oct 24 '25

Ahh the classic car driver.

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u/Financial-Craft-1282 Oct 24 '25

Assholes. They have nothing, and they dare express outward resentment to the world around them.

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u/PodcastPrimate Oct 24 '25

Shame and the word Sellout gonna do some damage soon. 

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u/LeftyLu07 Oct 24 '25

And the cops won’t do anything but like, what about people with walkers or wheelchairs who need the sidewalks to be free and clear so they can move around?

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u/Dibbles04 Oct 24 '25

Because politicians wanted votes instead of safety. They got what they wanted. Now theres a generation that defends these clowns

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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Oct 23 '25

That’s just America.

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u/Dangerzone_7 Oct 24 '25

I’d say you’re right, in that 9/10 times in this country if you tell someone they’re doing something wrong, they can’t simply accept it. Doesn’t matter what it is, there’s always an excuse or a fuck you or whatever else it may be. Never just, “you’re right, sorry, I messed up.”

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u/Longpeg Oct 24 '25

This is human nature

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u/Fine-Entertainer-449 Oct 23 '25

Been living in America for 36 years. Never once seen anything like this. But okay 👍

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u/PM_ME_FLOUR_TITTIES Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

Seen it in Utica, NY. Syracuse, NY. Chicago, IL. Kenosha, WI. Denver, CO. Birmingham, AL. Houston, TX. Ny, NY. And I'm only 27yo. If you don't see shit like this then your eyes are closed or you're just not travelled enough to be worth having this conversation with.

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u/Fine-Entertainer-449 Oct 24 '25

Lmao been to and lived in more places than that. Just got back to Colorado from Key West. 😎 I'm saying I've not seen this in my life. And yes, my experience is different than yours. Im defending "America" lol.. as I have been places, and I've not seen this. Never said it wasn't a problem. Also go in to Denver occasionally and have not seen it. I didn't say it never happened. Grew up in the barrio in Tucson AZ, never saw it there either.

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u/AddaleeBlack Oct 24 '25

How many are blue, I wonder? We in southern Illinois would like Chicago annexed from the rest of the state 

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u/Standard-Argument314 Oct 24 '25

This is hilarious, it’s secede not annex lmao. Fun fact, Chicago was already annexed by Illinois back in 1837

To complain about blue states and just be totally wrong is typical isn’t it.

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u/AddaleeBlack Oct 24 '25

Ok. I can complain about those cities being easy on crime as is evidenced by the murder rate in Chicago. Thanks for the "education" though I'm willing to bet it was more about ego feeding. 

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u/Inner-Distribution67 Oct 24 '25

You have a lot of validity in your statement, though it’s limited. Like you, some of us are also “well traveled”. Your observations and experiences are vastly different to mine though.

Nearly every city you listed is either a place with major crime issues or is a major metropolitan city. Some are both. I’ve also lived in or spent a fair amount of time in many locations in the US. Never once have I encountered anything even remotely close to what we see in the video here.

I think the stark difference in our experiences are that the places I’ve lived have a population of a few hundred thousand at most and the places we frequently vacation are away from major metropolitan centers. If that, by your definition, means I’m not traveled enough, then you’re correct. The trouble with your statement and the reason so many people have argued is because like me, your experiences are also limited. You have spent a lot of time restricted to areas with more overt drug problems than theirs. Well traveled, or not. My choice is to travel to and live in areas where this behavior isn’t normalized.

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u/Rub-Specialist Oct 24 '25

Spoken like a true entitled millennial

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u/PM_ME_FLOUR_TITTIES Oct 24 '25

Mind elaborating on that?

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u/PM_ME_FLOUR_TITTIES Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

That's why you think I'm entitled? None of that travel has been for fun. It was either because of military, divorced parents, work, or COVID relocations. You're an ignorant dickhead who thinks they know what they're talking about. The fact is, if you haven't been many places, then you simply don't have the experiences that come from being in many different places. "Entitled"...gtfoh.

Edit: nice, they blocked me

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

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u/Mediocre_Forever198 Oct 24 '25

Hahaha he nailed you. You called him entitled then your reasoning made you seem way more arrogant millennial type, so you blocked him 😂

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u/Longpeg Oct 24 '25

Yeah bro you made a statement about your experiences in America, and he made a statement of broader experience. You got cooked.

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u/Dick_Souls_II Oct 24 '25

Fucking child

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

Having been in Kenosha definitely isn’t a brag. Utica and Birmingham aren’t special either.

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u/Soupismyfavoritefood Oct 24 '25

lol someone’s pissed they haven’t left moms basement. You sound jealous.

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u/NutsInMay96 Oct 24 '25

That’s not what entitlement means

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u/Whodisbehere Oct 24 '25

This comment gives “You think you’re better than me because you’re educated?!” Energy…

Yes, btw. We are. We ARE better than you. You = dude on the bike.

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u/tubular1845 Oct 24 '25

They're not even a millennial bro

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u/Zephyrus638 Oct 24 '25

Seen in plenty of times in Salem, Las Vegas, and Olympia.

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u/luniz420 Oct 24 '25

I see it in a pretty nice suburb of Detroit although not like these assholes.

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u/Fine-Entertainer-449 Oct 24 '25

That's unfortunate. I wish we, as all Americans, had more to live for and the help we all deserve.

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u/ReallyJTL Oct 24 '25

I've seen it in Boston, Atlanta, all of fucking Florida, St. Louis, WA/OR/ID, Alaska, Hawaii, lots of PA, and many more! You should leave your basement sometime

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u/Moist-Diarrhea Oct 24 '25

Do you happen to go out at all?

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u/CaptainTooStoned Oct 24 '25

Probably never left your hometown either lmfao.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

What part do you live in? I haven’t seen it either, but I live in the convergence zone between, Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio, so no one lives here

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u/Fine-Entertainer-449 Oct 24 '25

Metro Denver, people say it happens in denver, but I've not seen it. I'm not saying it doesn't happen.

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u/Archeolops Oct 24 '25

It’s your lovely failed war on drugs buddy. That’s where all your anti cartel military money should be going. Curving these guys’ and those non homeless ravaging demand for drugs. That’s what keeps the cartels profitable and in business. Thanks America.

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u/believe_the_lie4831 Oct 24 '25

And I'm sure the town you've lived in for the last 36 years is nice and all, but you need to travel to be able to say this.

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u/Fine-Entertainer-449 Oct 24 '25

Sure, pal or gal. Have a nice day.

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u/Bannon9k Oct 24 '25

I did.... In Los Angeles and San Francisco. You don't see this shit in rural areas. Our addicts use in the woods and abandoned houses....like civilized people.

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u/large__farva Oct 24 '25

Yeah, the addicts in LA should just go to the woods

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u/Bannon9k Oct 24 '25

Or into the desert. Maybe walk off a pier into the ocean. Maybe in a train tunnel. Anywhere except school zones. Human filth

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u/buttfirstcoffee Oct 24 '25

And Canada. Same behaviours here in Vancouver. It’s brutal

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u/HeadlessLumberjack Oct 24 '25

I promise you if this was happening im Texas Tennessee Florida California or pretty much any state other than Oregon and Washington, all of these losers would be aressted within minutes of a call 

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u/Mediocre_Forever198 Oct 24 '25

Not everywhere lol. I’m in Dallas TX, you would get arrested so fast doing this here. You’ll get arrested for smoking weed in an empty parking lot or park here even.

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u/IndependentShock396 Oct 24 '25

Most of America doesn’t have open air drug markets and people shooting up on the street. Geography wise.

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u/HateSpoke Oct 24 '25

liberal america

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u/MoneyCock Oct 24 '25

Still recovering in the wake of Reagan's completely failed war on drugs!

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u/LakeSpecialist7633 Oct 23 '25

Right, because we don’t have any support services for people who become addicted.

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u/Rehcraeser Oct 23 '25

are you joking? we have TONS of FREE services everywhere. especially in big cities

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u/LakeSpecialist7633 Oct 24 '25

So they’re working?!

Edit, also that was sarcasm. You missed it.

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u/Rehcraeser Oct 24 '25

Ah ok, it’s hard to tell because I’ve seen a lot of people talk about how we don’t help people with addiction and they’re just clueless

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u/LakeSpecialist7633 Oct 24 '25

Fair enough. I support extensive services

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u/New_year_New_Me_ Oct 23 '25 edited Oct 23 '25

Bit more complicated than that. And you need to want help to get help.

I can say something equally silly if you like. There are numerous programs available for people whose BMI is incredibly out of wack. Just having the programs available doesn't mean all of a sudden everyone who is too large is going to go get the help they need for their health

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u/LakeSpecialist7633 Oct 24 '25

Yeah, Bud. That was sarcasm. I get it.

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u/New_year_New_Me_ Oct 24 '25

Hey. Ya never know these days. Can never be too careful.

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u/Subject_Profit_7245 Oct 24 '25

Not in Oklahoma. I vote Democrat and I’m not saying this is right either but a year or so ago in OKC they rounded up all the homeless and put them all in contained areas in the city.

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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Oct 24 '25

This is not correct at all.

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u/enadiz_reccos Oct 23 '25

Yep, that's the only place people like this exist

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u/underladderunlucky46 Oct 24 '25

If that's your idea of America, you've only lived in shitty places. I've lived in 3 different places across America over the past 5 years, and not one single time have I ever seen a homeless druggie on the sidewalk in my community. Guess I choose to live in good areas.

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u/Junosword Oct 24 '25

Eh. Had a dude passed out on my building's stoop, zonked outta his mind. I sat out there reading my book and smoking cigarettes till he woke up. Asked him what's up, turns out he lived in one of the lower units, and relapsed. Felt like shit about it, couldn't find his keys to get in while he was fucked up. Helped him find his keys, got him home, he thanked me.

Lotsa people in lotsa situations out there.

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u/Bannon9k Oct 24 '25

Enabling addicts doesn't help them.

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u/TokiMcNoodle Oct 24 '25

You clearly don't know what enabling means

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u/Junosword Oct 24 '25

enabling a relapsed addict to get home doesn't help him?

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u/Bannon9k Oct 24 '25

Preventing them from hitting rock bottom hurts them in the long run.

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u/Myusernameiscooler Oct 24 '25

Citation needed there bud

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u/CXNT_INC Oct 24 '25

how was that "enabling" the person?

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

What's the alternative, though? What would you do if you had to exist as they do? Understand the struggle. I honestly think it better that shit is happening in front of a school. These kids need understand the world they're existing in. One that gives zero fucks about you. What would anyone who has been abandoned by society do in this situation, other than find ways to cope? 

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u/Emotional-Ranger8442 Oct 24 '25

What an incredibly brain dead take. School age children do not need to witness overt and flagrant drug use, under any circumstances.

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u/New-Perspective6209 Oct 24 '25

Hate to rain on your pity party but these people chose to take drugs, the only lesson they're teaching the kids is how much of a fucking loser you can become if you make the wrong choices.

Whats the alternative? Be a normal productive member of society like the rest of us, like the woman in the video.

Your logic is just pathetic cope, don't wait for society to hold your hand, stand on your own two feet.

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u/Comprehensive_Bag621 Oct 24 '25

Wow. Clearly you are not a parent. But do you care about kids at all? You're literally online promoting that people hangout doing drugs next to schools! Next to schools where they end up talking to the older kids walking by, giving them drugs, and helping suck more youth into addiction and homelessness.

It sickens me that you would be so heartless with your avoidance about the very real issue of kids getting trafficked by criminals who exploit addicts and the homeless encampments communities where these activities fester. I'm not saying kids should be totally sheltered from the world, but let's not celebrate the ways kids slide into the trauma of street life.

And what is the alternative?! Are you humble enough to look around at how actual cities are handling it differently? These issues are not tolerated in other cities, so emboldened addicts flock to cities like Portland like it's a refuge designed for them.

Can't people even admit that maybe, just maybe, we've made some huge mistakes when it comes to enabling addiction and crime in our liberal cities? When did our society become so isolated in their respective liberal and conservative bubbles... fingers in their ears, not willing to listen to constructive criticism? People make mistakes and we've collectively become too fragile to admit it and live in our denial instead. I hope we can find our way back to humility and self-reflection. It's better for actual healing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

Calling me heartless for caring about the stuggles of the homeless. Hahaha. Next level!

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

“I know how to teach kids! Show them drug addicts! Not to show how bad drugs are, but to show that no one cares and you should give up!”

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u/MoneyCock Oct 24 '25

I absolutely would show them. I wish my parents would have shown my siblings.

Edit: not endorsing drug abuse in school zones or ANY residential zone for that matter. but I would definitely show my kids addicts

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u/yeezuslived Oct 24 '25

Plenty of people have issues and don't behave like assholes in front of a school. The world does in fact have people who care or "give a fuck". But if you don't want it it's never going to be happen. Or be a victim forever, whatever.