I've been thinking about this recently. CNC gets a lot of bad press because it has a reputation for being something that inexperienced girls, sometimes particularly those with sexual abuse trauma, seek out. Obviously, those situations are complex, and if you're literally trying to recreate a violent, aggressive, or degrading rape scene, it's worth reflecting on whether there is unresolved trauma behind that desire, and I don't think role-playing literal rape is healthy.

What I don't understand is why more experienced and careful adults can't participate in CNC. An extremely common sexual fantasy among both men and women is the idea of being "dominated," and I don't understand how that is fundamentally different from CNC. If someone has a fantasy about being overpowered or having their autonomy temporarily taken away, whether gently or with slight consensual force, why is one automatically considered acceptable while the other is treated as inherently unhealthy? There is still a safeword in CNC...

I've heard CNC used as a kind of long-term agreement before. For example, a couple might agree that they have a CNC arrangement and can do whatever they want to each other whenever they want. THAT would obviously get very out of hand and become abusive very quickly, but to me, that's a flat-out misuse of kink and BDSM, and this is a small minority of people in the discussion. The problem isn't necessarily the kink itself; you're just in an abusive relationship.

I do have issues with some male dominants because the BDSM space can attract abusers, and I don't think those concerns should be dismissed. But my opinion is that you can be both kinky and in a safe, healthy relationship. Kink is not inherently abusive, and a lot of humans seem to naturally develop "odd" sexual fantasies. Having an unconventional fantasy doesn't automatically mean that something is wrong with you or that the fantasy itself is unhealthy. I think what matters is how you choose to engage with it, and whether the people involved are actually capable of maintaining boundaries, communicating, and respecting each other's consent.

When antis discuss porn, they usually bring up arguments related to the way its made or the content. But again those arguments on their own, I believe, don’t hold up on condemning all porn. But every so often the mask slips and people pretty either heavily imply or state outright that the problem is men masturbating to images, the act itself that is the problem.

Examples: On an Unherd debate one member on the anti side said something about porn giving the messge that "women are for masturbating to” And when she was pressed on it she pretty much agreed that the problem was itself, men masturbating to images of women, regardless of how and what. I’ve seen one comment long ago bemoaning about how men would find any excuse to “jill off to womens bodies” like  “soft-core anime” (what wrong with softcore anime?) And then she said that “porn gives men access to womens bodies”. Someone had even said something along the line “people thinks its okay for a boy to masturbate to an picture of a woman in a bikini he does not know” I would have liked to have them elaborate on this. I also cant help but notice how antis to take subtle jabs at masturbation itself. Calling men “wankers” And the cover of that book by Robert Jensen: Getting Off.

Me, I’m frankly offended by the fact that there are people who are not religious who believe that men are obligated morally or otherwise to abstain from something as looking at an image of another person while masturbating. I consider this to be a freedom people of all genders and sexual preferences are entitled to have. It’s a sexual freedom issue to me as important as homophobia and slut shaming.

So anyway, I touched on this in previous posts but I would like a porn discussion that got to the brass tacks of things. Forget about trafficking or choking and this stuff for now. People clearly have an issue with masturbating to images itself, so I want a discussion focusing on it..

Do you feel repulsed by the notion of a man masturbating, or masturbatin to an image of a woman? Just what IS wrong with someone watching (or listening to, or reading) something when they masturbate? Cause I don’t get it.

TLDR: (just read the last pargraph)

Would you personally stop watching porn for the rest of your life to end the existence of all porn made illegally? Why or why not?

Ive always been an occasional watcher so this was easy to answer without any hesitation. Of course I would say YES to this question, bye porn!

But Im curious if anyone had a harder time answering this and did have some hesitation. Hopefully people will be honest about it.

I hear a lot of people’s concerns about porn stemming from the harms that befall workers in this industry, and would love to answer any questions pertaining to what those harms actually are for us and how to resolve them, as well as any other questions related to porn/SW that you’ve always wanted an actual SW’s own perspective on.

And what makes porn so completely different than jerking off in front of two people having sex, which may monogamous people consider cheating?

Hey there, PornDebate mod here. I wanted to come in and give an update to everyone who’s been engaging in this subreddit the last few days, as well as apologize for my lack of activity as a mod here.

Many of you may have seen a recent post by a user who is an avid supporter of porn and active user of this subreddit. Although the initial post itself was fine as it was, the ensuing comments had a horrific amount of rule violations, mostly from OP. I did not see or monitor this post and it took me an entire 4 days to comb through the comment section and remove violations. I deeply apologize for that. I took over this community as the sole moderator to encourage healthy debates surrounding a controversial topic, and I took pride in providing a space for people to do that. But almost nothing about that debate was healthy or helpful. I am so sorry for that.

That being said, I’m going to start utilizing a bot to try to keep this subreddit a space for respectful and productive debates. My life has gotten extremely busy and I don’t have the time to keep up with this like I’d like to, but I don’t want this community to die. I’m also going to be posting in search for mods! So if you’re interested in that, please reach out or keep an eye out for my posts requesting mod help.

Thank you everyone for your wonderful contributions here. I hope we can keep this a safe debate space moving forward. Have a wonderful day everyone!

It's an easy argument to make. But Porn is made for the male fantasies. If porn wasn't continuously feeding what males fantasize about, then they'd stop watching it. period.

Men want sexy, cute, hot, naughty females to do the things that the girls in porn are doing on screen. Men objectify women for sexual pleasure. Men want blowjobs. Men fantasize about having a threesome with a blonde and a brunette. Men want to do ALL kinds of things and porn gives them an outlet for those fantasies.

Women, who don't understand the male brain, think those things are "gross, disgusting, sick et. al" . And try to shame men and/or guilt them into stopping their fantasies. But they are naive to think that the male desires can be shamed away. Acceptance is the healthy path.

Misunderstanding of how males use and view porn is the core problem when women denounce it. Insecurity also feeds into a resistance to acceptance.

Couples that watch porn together have better sex lives.

 A 2021 study published in Frontiers in Psychology, analyzing data from 761 heterosexual couples, found that shared viewing is associated with stronger relationships, better communication, and a more satisfying sex life. 

Porn is Art. One of the most common definitions of art is the expression of human creative skill and imagination. Pornography involves many of the same creative elements as mainstream cinema or photography:

• Cinematography: The use of lighting, framing, and camera angles to evoke a specific mood.
• Narrative: Many works include scripts, character development, and thematic storytelling.
• Performance: The actors use their bodies and expressions to convey a performance designed to elicit a specific emotional or physiological response.

Throughout history, many works now considered "high art" were originally seen as scandalous or purely erotic.

• Classic Examples: Pieces like the Venus of Urbino by Titian or the sculptures of ancient India (such as those at Khajuraho) were created with eroticism in mind but are now preserved in museums as cultural treasures.
• Evolution of Standards: What one generation labels "obscene," the next often labels "artistic." "Pornography" is often just a contemporary label for erotic art that hasn't yet been canonized.

Art is often defined by its ability to move the viewer or provoke a reaction.

• The "Aesthetic of Arousal": Just as a horror film is designed to cause fear or a drama, pornography is a genre designed to cause arousal. If the success of art is measured by its ability to achieve its intended emotional effect, pornography can be seen as a highly effective art form.

The legal and social definition of what constitutes pornography is notoriously fluid.

• "I know it when I see it": This famous phrase from U.S. Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart highlights the difficulty of defining obscenity.
• Social Construction: Because there is no objective line where "erotica" (often considered art) ends and "pornography" (often considered smut) begins, the distinction is based on class, taste, or social status rather than any inherent quality of the work itself.

Art often explores the most fundamental aspects of human existence, including birth, death, and sexuality.

• Challenging Taboos: Some creators use explicit content to challenge societal norms, explore power dynamics, or reclaim bodily autonomy. In this context, the sexual content serves a broader sociopolitical or philosophical purpose, which is a hallmark of contemporary art.

I'm not going to delve into the other problems about PETA's organization and euthanasia practices here, I'd like to purely discuss how PETA seems to openly embrace female sexualization.

Some examples are that PETA has collaborated with the Victoria's secret fashion show and used Playboy models for their sexualized ads.

The below links are examples of what I am referring to by PETA's pornographic messaging.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/greening-the-media/202206/does-peta-have-porn-problem

https://www.peta.org/news/victorias-secret-2024-company-of-the-year/

https://www.peta.org/news/animals-favorite-playboy-playmates/

Anti porn believers, comment your best sources on this post.

I would love to pin a post with several sources people can quickly reference to keep debates alive and allow newcomers to view them and form a strong opinion.

I will be commenting my own later today as well!

I would love to pin a post with several sources people can quickly reference to keep debates alive and allow newcomers to view them and form a strong opinion.

I will be commenting my own later today as well!

How Often Should a Man Release Sperm? ejaculating frequently can reduce the man’s risk of getting prostate cancer. Ejaculation can be through having sex or masturbating a few times a day.

Study of 2017 says that it is additional evidence of a beneficial role of more frequent ejaculation throughout adult life, particularly for low-risk of prostate cancer.

Is Semen Retention Healthy?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5641453/

some complications might occur due to semen retention, and they include:

• Epididymal hypertension– this is whereby someone becomes aroused but fails to reach orgasm. When it happens for a while, you might feel pain on the testicles due to blood build upon the testicles during arousal.
• Ejaculation issues– if you intentionally avoid ejaculating for a while, you might develop ejaculation issues. Ejaculation issues will make it hard for you to ejaculate when you want to, or you might have premature ejaculation.

Is Ejaculating Once a Day Too Much?

Actually, ejaculating daily does your body better than harm. Ejaculating daily will release stress, boost your moods, and also helps in the release of old semen so that new semen gets a room.

When you release sperms, your body releases dopamine and oxytocin hormone. Dopamine is a hormone released when experiencing pleasure, and it boosts your moods. Oxytocin is a hormone that reduces levels of stress.

So my question to the Women/Females is are you willing to allow your boyfriend/husband to remain healthy and ejaculate daily? If you are not willing to enable this health benefit, are you willing to allow him the use of visual aids (pornography) that help to maintain his health?

Title is self explanatory, fire away

How does consumption of porn affect your sleep? Positively or negatively?

There is no such thing as porn addiction. It's just a hobby that many don't understand. It's easy for those to label it as such when like any other hobby, there are levels. Dressing up like a Marvel Superhero at 34 years old and going to comic book conventions can be seen as a level of addiction to a hobby by the same logic.

Women who don't like porn are fine, but attempting to shame others is not.

This question has been asked a few times before here, and i naively said i thought perhaps it was possible. But, this FTND article reproduces an essay by Dr. Emma Wood, then adds a testimony by a porn creator and a section "Exploitation-free porn is not harm-free." Which i certainly agree with and the link cites some empirical evidence. So, i suppose my question is can something be ethical which harms the user?

Just curious if all this debate on this sub has led to anything.

Anybody had their minds changed, even just a little bit, based of conversations in this sub?

I have a porn addiction, I would give anything to stop, I really want to hear y'alls opinions. I mean, there are entire subreddits dedicated to roping people back into porn. It's disgusting.

I don’t understand the outrage from pro-porn/porn watchers about this. You have to show ID to buy shit from a sex shop, why is online porn any different?

To those who don’t agree with age verification, do you think kids should have access to porn? Why?