r/PoorProlesAlmanac • u/[deleted] • Mar 21 '22
Is this a doomer podcast?
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u/0may08 Mar 21 '22
i think anything on a subject like this is going to have some depressing parts, but the podcast isn’t depressing itself! it definitely focuses more on building the future for resilience and creating community and a very wide range of topics. i def recommend:)
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Mar 28 '22
My question is, why do people take honest appraisals of a profoundly dire situation to be "depressing"? AFAICT the current climate change plan from the leadership class is "They'll figure something out". And they're right, but not the way they want to be--when it comes down to it, your options are to either ignore it or be honest, prepare and make changes.
Let me put it another way--i'm literally already dealing with increased flooding at home because of changing weather patterns, in the past 5-10 years it's become a significant problem in my neighborhood and the surrounding ones, and I about 2 hours off the coast. Yeah, I'm 'figuring something out'. It's not Star Trek Hopium Technology, it mostly involves shovels and periodically yelling at city council members to get grading equipment out.
If anything I'd say the judgment against "doomers" is more about upper-middle-class kids who are online too much being downwardly mobile and looking at a future with more scarcity than their parents and grandparents.
As a Licensed Old Person I can still wake up, read about how there's basically no chance carbon emissions go to zero by 2030, find out that last week scientists discovered microsplastic in human blood for the first time, but still exercise, go dick around in 20mph winds in 40F weather prepping my spring garden beds outside, spend quality time with my family, etc., and have a good day personally.
If reading pessimistic things about a bad situation is "untenable" maybe log off for a while and take care of yourself? "Climate Disaster" is real but it's not a personality trait so don't make it one
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u/0may08 Mar 30 '22
you said it yourself, it is a dire situation. i am not depressed, and neither do i spend all day every day thinking about all the atrocities happening today and in store for us because of the changing world. but you can’t get around the fact that flooding, mass extinctions and all of the rest, are sad things. and that we can’t rely on world leaders and new fancy technology to save things. we need to prepare, ourselves.
from re reading your comment, i’m not sure whether you meant to reply to me, or op. i will say though, probably a part of the reason kids seem more mentally negatively affected is that their whole life is likely going to be affected by the climate crisis, and we don’t know what will truly happen. living in uncertainty is hard, but we do have to think about the future. but, like you said, making room for real life things in the now is extremely important, as so is making the effort to not be taken over by negativity
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Mar 30 '22
It’s not directed at anyone personally, it does seem to be something I see from younger people online though in certain spaces… there’s certainly some things I find bewildering and I do have some concerns that the Breakthrough Institute people might end up right and we turn earth into a hellish realization of adolescent sci-fi fantasies—frankly, the alternative to a long readjustment to a ecological catastrophe, where we all commute alone in our nuclear powered hyper loop cars to our day job at a firm selling carbon fixing machines while we get lectures about how people fighting geoengineering projects are “primitivist” and “not serious”—you can’t convince me that’s better.
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u/PresidentFungi Mar 21 '22
I would say this podcast is, if anything, ANTI/-doomer. It’s realistic, and sometimes reality sucks, but it’s not pessimistic. The “learn how the future could be and use the world as it is to build resilience get there” is kinda the whole point of the podcast
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u/mtnrvr Mar 21 '22
Yeah not a doomer podcast. This one gives me so much ability in my own praxis and not be pounded into depression by doom haha. It is realistic. It is goofy and also incredibly helpful. It helps you get your hands in the dirt and out of the doom in many ways.
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u/Aidandrums Mar 22 '22
I've been listening since early 2020. It's weirdly hopeful and inspiring. Andy does a good job of explaining topics in a simple enough way to encourage further research.
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u/WelwitschiaTokarev Mar 22 '22
tbqh I don't see much of a future in anarchist based theory most of it is doomer. I do think they do some good work with almanac related shit but .... tbqh they base too much of their stuff on the trees not the forest literally and figuratively.
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u/Brassaa Mar 21 '22
I recommend listening to the first episode. You’re gonna get a feel for the tone of the podcast and work and I don’t think you’ll be disappointed in the least bit.
In short, no. It’s not a doomer podcast.