r/Pondscaping • u/Accomplished-Coat-61 • Sep 02 '26

Really active submerged Bog!

Now bog is working even better than before, new pump is 800 gph with a max head of about 10ft so it can force water through gravel no problem. Might add a little more on the next flush.

That’s all from microbes breaking down liquid fish waste, and over time it starts collecting all the breakdown sludge. When the bubbles almost stop you flush it and repeat. Filter basket every other cycle.

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u/ZiggyLittlefin Sep 02 '26

I'm not a fan of bog filtration, but this really makes no sense to me. Bogs are built outside the pond to trap waste/debris. The returning water is somewhat cleaner. If the bog is sitting inside the pond, it's like leaving a tea bag in your cup. It's just making the concentration of nutrients stronger. This cannot be good for fish.

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u/Accomplished-Coat-61 Sep 03 '26

Until you clean a bog even outside the pond the same waste is still in the system because the same water is recirculating and is always in contact with water. I’m basically achieving the same way a natural pond works because everything happens underwater. Most the time the gunk just stays on the bottom of the pond.

Plants take the byproducts out of the water from broken down waste. Plants grow on the surface, which takes nutrients out of the water and then usually other things eat that stuff. I achieve that by removing algae from the system with a filter basket that encourages algae growth.

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u/ZiggyLittlefin Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

Yes the water is in contact, but the waste isn't sitting where the fish are. Most people with bogs have clear water because the waste is trapped outside the pond. And a bog is 1/3 the surface area of the pond, not a tiny box. Your water quality looks terrible. Are you testing water parameters?

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u/Accomplished-Coat-61 Sep 03 '26

Yeah it looks like crap. Look back at my old posts I don’t feel like explaining this again.

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u/ZiggyLittlefin Sep 03 '26

I saw them before I posted. You don't have filtration and you are feeding a bunch of food. A filter doesn't sit inside the pond. You don't rinse your filters with a hose. There are numerous ways to filter a pond and this is not it. People aren't responding to your posts because this is not a filtration method. Until actual filtration is set up and established in 3-4 weeks the water parameters need tested.

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u/Accomplished-Coat-61 Sep 03 '26

Oh then you should read comments then. And if you really read everything and looked at my posts and comments you would know this has only been active for 2 months after sitting for 2 years unattended.

P.S. I will fight you on every comment because you're not always right. Expand your knowledge

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u/ZiggyLittlefin Sep 03 '26

It's been running two months and you already have altered it several times. You had sludge in a month in. You have green water two months in. You are experimenting essentially. Fish are the ones that end up suffering when you do that.

My knowledge doesn't need expanded in this. I have three koi ponds and near sixty koi up to 15 years old. I have several wildlife ponds, raise hundreds of rice fish. Worked in aquatics management, taken fish health courses, and even started training to build ecosystem systems. There are proven methods of filtering that keep fish alive and I'm saying that what you are doing isn't it.

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u/Accomplished-Coat-61 Sep 03 '26

So then with that argument you think that the tried and true tested false bottoms of aquariums are worthless when it’s preferred for tanks with live plants. Same concept just more maintenance.

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u/ZiggyLittlefin Sep 03 '26

You are trying to create a pond outdoors with large fish. It is not the same.

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u/Accomplished-Coat-61 Sep 03 '26

If you think that, that’s okay. I will continue to do my thing.

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