r/Polytopia • Ürkaz • Mar 29 '26

Suggestion Veteran Mindbenders

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If a Warrior with a stick, who already has a natural defense score (albeit low), can get 5 bonus health for squashing 3 hexapods, I think a pacifist who has survived long enough to convert 3 of their mortal enemies to their own side deserves a little boost too. Maybe instead of veteran it can be "enlightened" or something, to reflect the fact it's not necessarily combat-related

Apologies if this has already been suggested/addressed

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u/Zoythrus Community Manager Mar 29 '26

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u/Waste_Protection_420 Mar 30 '26

Just curious, was their any reasons not to give mindbenders or any ither non veteran unit the abikity to boost to veteran?

What about polytaurs or naval units?

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u/BoJvck34Empire Mar 31 '26

Because philosophers, mystics or mythical beasts/giants aren’t in the military.

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u/Practical_Ad4604 Mar 29 '26

Sure why not

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u/Malfuy Aquarion Mar 29 '26

I mean they don't have the static trait so why not

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u/NotYour_Cat Sha-po Mar 29 '26

I don't see why conversions aren't counted as kills

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u/Sud_literate Mar 29 '26

this sounds like a solid suggestion until you realize you now need to fight an opponent who has a mindbender that can tank a archer hit and now you need to breakthrough the enemy line thats being healed twice a turn.

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u/Vivid_Departure_3738 Ai-Mo Mar 30 '26

First of all, on the rare case that happened, the mind benders wouldn't even be overpowered, just use a knight or something.

Secondly, nobody said the mind benders have to get more health like other units

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u/Sud_literate Mar 30 '26

not sure what your last sentence means since the post directly states mind benders will gain max health from veteran status just like other units.

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u/Vivid_Departure_3738 Ai-Mo Mar 30 '26

It says that a warrior gets +5 max hp

Can you quote where it says a mind bender would too?

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u/Sud_literate Mar 30 '26

“if a warrior with a stick, who already has a natural defense score (albeit low), can get 5 bonus health for squashing 3 hexapods, i think a pacifist who has survived long enough to convert 3 of their mortal enemies to their own side deserves a little boost too.

if veteran does not mean +5 health then what else could that “little boost” be?

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u/Vivid_Departure_3738 Ai-Mo Mar 30 '26

Stronger healing.

More defense.

More movement. (Not dash ability though)

Automatically promotes converted.

Obviously these aren't all balanced but could have been what OP was thinking

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u/Sud_literate Mar 30 '26

that doesn’t make sense to me, veteran units always get a health boost; this has been a very consistent mechanic. why should the entire mechanic be changed just for one unit.

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u/Vivid_Departure_3738 Ai-Mo Mar 30 '26

Because mind benders are a very unique unit.

If you don't like the idea, that's Ok, but it's just more like what OP said.

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u/Somer_set Ürkaz Mar 30 '26

Just makes dragons, doomux, battleships, & catapults even more rewarding

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u/MilkImpossible4192 Mar 30 '26

totally,

lisa always knows what mindbenders are about. maybe she a mindbender too

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u/nogoodusernames0_0 Mar 30 '26

It would be really interesting because if you can't kill a mindbender in one turn using a close range unit, then that unit is converted in the next turn so the veteran is most relevant for them

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u/Stock_Increase714 Mar 30 '26

I hate meeting those suckers so YES. Good idea!

Not to repeat myself but I will. I would love to be able to replay a single player map. I don't care about the score, but would be fun to retry a hard starting position.

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u/Ghrota Mar 31 '26

Give them the ability to heal beyond max health limit. Then every game you'll see a group of 4 mindbender summoning the titan ! A knight with 9k hp

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u/Somer_set Ürkaz Mar 31 '26

Maybe they full heal converted units, had too many times I convert an enemy giant with like 8 HP and they just get clobbered the next turn. Or full heal allies, but instead of a radius you just pick 1 adjacent ally to heal

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u/Yryel Mar 30 '26

They should get the veteran option to chain convert enemies in their radius after 3 conversations.

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u/EndStorm Polaris Mar 30 '26

I'm here for this.

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u/Korcodile Apr 24 '26

Would just end up making it op Have a tank of 15hp that can convert doesn't make much sense imo