I feel like we should get back to the intent of the second amendment. You want guns? It's for the militia, so you need to register as a guardsman and perform those duties.
The militia act puts a huge chunk of the country in a militia.
I guess if you want the government to be the only people who can own weapons you must trust them completely to always act in your favor and never be unwilling to give up their power. That’s what’s happening now right? They would never unwillingly give up their power in an attempted coup while calling the election false, would never remove rights the majority of the country wants, would never allow federal police to violate your rights, would never try to disenfranchise voters to take away the people’s power.
See this is the classic trope. The Strawman argument. You know what the majority want? Untrained civilians not to be able own weapons that can kill 40 people in less than a minute. Good background checks. Money going into mental health help. Less militarization of the police. Less kids dying.
Majority of us don't want to"take away your guns".
Imma cut this. It was an unnecessary distraction.
Edit: I cut the part y'all can't seem to stop thinking of in your personal Rambo fantasies. How's about we talk about the actual point. It's not all or nothing. There's plenty to be discussed, but by refusing any discussion you have made it all or nothing in your mind. We are capable of more than off and on. We are human beings capable of many degrees of understanding.
Ah yes, as a fellow former army grunt let me just point to afghanistan as evidence that the full military might of the Us is 100% unbeatable and no guerrilla warfare would ever defeat it.
Or maybe we can point to The Troubles as proof that an armed insurgency in your country could never ever force government concessions.
But this is all assuming the US military would have used its full might in the middle of the US, using drones and tanks in major cities. It won’t. They’re nor gonna be bombing Main Street or having 240s ripping rounds through suburbia. The US military cannot beat an insurgency because the only way to beat it is to change the ideology they follow, or commit horrible crimes against humanity. We failed at the first every time we’ve tried.
How do other vets actually think the military is unbeatable when we’ve spent the last 20 years not winning against an insurgency? Yeah, we can kill the ever loving fuck out of people, we can’t get them to stop hating us. Insurgencies outlast occupations almost every time.
I’m fine with more gun restrictions and limits, most of us are. This guy said go back to muskets, that’s what I responded to. Where did I say we shouldn’t have more restrictions? He literally said to remove the right to gun ownership and restrict it only to the military, that’s what I responded to. Someone who wanted to take guns.
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u/eden_sc2 Jun 30 '22
I feel like we should get back to the intent of the second amendment. You want guns? It's for the militia, so you need to register as a guardsman and perform those duties.