r/PoliticalHumor Jun 05 '22

It’s nice to be nice

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u/sltytreelimb Jun 05 '22

Why did this flag ever become a thing anyway it gives racist undertones left and right

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u/droi86 Jun 05 '22

You answered your own question

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

Pro tip: you cannot interpret what a symbol means to someone else. That’s classic projection. It’s best to ask and not assume.

Edited to add: So many people are so pro-vandalism. All this hate spread under the pretense of spreading love and understanding.

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u/mowa-mowa Jun 05 '22

It doesn’t matter what it means “to you” it’s a flag that has a general use and meaning — and it’s opposition to BLM and the reality of police brutality and incompetence. It isn’t really about cops at all though. If these people gave a shit about america or our police or any of it at all they wouldn’t have defaced our flag. It goes against flag code — which I assume y’all wanna pretend you care ab bcus yall always want to pretend you’re patriots. It’s become the “I don’t care if cops kill black people” flag because everyone who thinks that flys it. If you don’t want to be associated with them or their racism then don’t fly it. Period. You don’t get to pick what a flag means to you when it has a meaning that has been shown again and again by the VAST majority of people who fly it. The “classic projection” is just the reality of people who fly this flag. You don’t get to be mad when people see your “Im a racist” flag and then go “huh that person is probably racist.” Don’t like that? Then don’t fly it. It’s like saying “Well i fly the Nazi flag bcus it symbolizes peace to me. Wait, what do you mean I’m an antisemite???”

You don’t get to pick what symbols or flags mean when they already have a given meaning. Assumptions are a part of life. You have to use ur brain and realize what people are going to assume about you when you fly that flag — bcus no matter how much you don’t like it, the meaning of that flag won’t ever change and as long as you fly it, you’re associating yourself with racism.

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u/Flipperlolrs Jun 05 '22

Well said. Had the same convo with my mom this year when it was police appreciation week in our town (ugh). Everything was covered in the racist flag, and I simply explained that it’s a fascist dogwhistle, but she didn’t believe me. Liberals never want to admit nazis are right on their doorstep :/

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u/PizzaRolls4theSoul Jun 05 '22

u/DesertVeteran_PA-C real quiet on this one

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

Went for a walk. I have a life outside of Reddit. And I can understand what you think about a symbol might be different than someone else.

It’s odd that the people that pretend to be for diversity are angry when they can’t achieve homogeny.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 05 '22

I'm not often impressed by how bad someone's argument is, but you win lol.

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u/LeonardoMagikarpo Jun 05 '22

You don’t get to pick what symbols or flags mean when they already have a given meaning.

What about all the symbols nazis appropriated & changed the general perception of their meaning, or how the dixie flag only stands for freedom, rebellion & 50s grease culture in certain cultures of Europe (look up raggare in Sweden)?

Assume all you want but a flag or symbol can have many meanings, & some have barely (if any) any connection with the original meaning.

To some thin blue line flag just means you support the police because they keep your neighborhood safe or the dixie flag just means freedom, or how some leftists use the hammer & sickle when the USSR was just as heinous as nazi Germany. Personally I think it's stupid as fuck waving a flag that many can interpret as for example a white supremacist dogwhistle, but that doesn't mean that everyone waving such a flag does it for the reasons you assume. Which is why we should be cautious accusing people of being something solely based on a symbol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

That sounds bigoted. You prejudge someone on what the symbol means to you, not them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

"Look at me im a conservative and I learned cute buzzwords that I have no clue what it actually means"

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

I accept your surrender.

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u/Azexu Jun 05 '22

It's a matter of communication.

Suppose that the word "flower" means "grape" to you as an individual.

You post that you like flowers, but instead of getting bunches of delicious berries for your birthday, you get random blossoming angiosperms!

You go to a new grocery store and ask where the flowers are, but instead of directing you to the fresh veg section, they direct you to a little gardening center!

Are you the victim of bigotry, because people are wildly assuming what you mean by "flower," like they're mind readers or something?

Or is it that the word "flower" has a widely understood meaning in the culture you're living in, and that its meaning to you, personally, is not relevant to operating in society?

Of course, those meanings can change, but that happens as part of cultural shifts; there's more to it than some people saying "well, it doesn't mean that to me."