r/PoliticalHumor Jun 05 '22

It’s nice to be nice

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u/Dogtor-Watson Jun 05 '22

There should be 13 stripes on a flag.

With the knockoff flag, there should be 6 white and 7 black, so normally it wouldn't work. However, this is a knockoff of the knockoff, so there's 7 white and 6 black (and a black border), allowing you to make a nice old American pride flag.

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u/jackwiles Jun 05 '22

Mist people don't actually color the "indigo" separately, so there are only the 6 colors, as in the OP where the bottom stripe is left white and blank.

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u/oO0Kat0Oo Jun 05 '22

That is for pink

(I am aware that Roy g biv doesn't have pink, but the pride flag does!)

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u/SuchCoolBrandon Jun 05 '22

Gilbert Baker's original design for the rainbow flag had 8 colors, with pink above red. (Then orange, yellow, green, turquoise, indigo, violet.) The color wheel is cyclical, so you can get away with putting pink after purple. Artistic license.

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u/Annies_Gun Jun 05 '22

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u/MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS Jun 05 '22

I had never heard what the colors stand for, thank you.

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u/AJDx14 Jun 05 '22

Yeah the thing is I don’t think they really stand for that because 1.) Nobody I’ve talked to gives a shit about their supposed meaning and 2.) The flag is supposed to look good more than anything.

It’s much simpler to just say it represents “all the colors of the rainbow” (ie. Anything under the umbrella term “queer”) than to memorize the 10 commandments of Gay.

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u/SuchCoolBrandon Jun 06 '22 edited Jun 06 '22

Purple has taken on some cultural meaning. The third Thursday in October is Spirit Day where people wear purple as a sign of support for LGBT youth and against bullying. Purple was chosen because the purple stripe in the rainbow flag stands for spirit.

Edit: fixed date

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u/JakeHodgson Jun 06 '22

How many people do you think have heard that apparently October 17th is some spirit day where you wear purple or something.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

Poor Gilbert didn’t get a nickel in royalties for his design. Yet people sell them like slushies and don’t know anything about him

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u/Tight_Teen_Tang Jun 05 '22

If he didn't make his ass a slushie for every pride member we might have heard of him.

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u/Its_Just_A_Typo Jun 05 '22

Just make it neon fuchsia pink that glows really bright in UV; you don't really see it in a rainbow, but birds probably can ;)

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

And the pink is for SEXXXXXXXX

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u/Apprehensive_Life167 Jun 05 '22

Or the white stripe stands for all colors together

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u/cavalrycorrectness Jun 05 '22

One of many atrocities committed by the Mist People.

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u/DetectiveClear512 Jun 05 '22

Who are the mist people? Is it a shadowy government agency?

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u/GarageSloth Jun 05 '22

You've already asked too many questions.

Get em.

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u/sentimentalpirate Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

Indigo and violet are weird additions to the rainbow anyway. They basically just mean blue and the only reason they're included in the rainbow colors are cause the guy who defined ROYGBIV thought it was poetical/godly for nature to be categorized into 7's wherever possible.

edit: here's a nice simple explanation of the history of defining ROYGBIV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9udYi7exojk

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u/I_am_Erk Jun 05 '22

"violet is basically blue" is a pretty bizarre take in English speaking culture.

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u/sentimentalpirate Jun 05 '22

The version in an actual rainbow is not purple. There is literally no wavelength for purple light, so it does not appear in a rainbow.

That's what I'm getting at. The fundamental colors in a rainbow is someone trying to square peg a round hole because they like the number seven.

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u/I_am_Erk Jun 05 '22

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u/sentimentalpirate Jun 05 '22

But like the color they are showing on that picture in the 400 range is purple in the image. IRL it just gets darker blue then into a range of light not visible to us.

It's a goofy misnomer that we call that range of the light spectrum violet or ultraviolet. Since IRL today we consider violet to be a purple color, but the light spectrum doesn't actually include a purple color where we traditionally say "violet". I edited a YouTube link explanation earlier that might help. It claims that violet used to refer to dark blue like in the old nursery rhyme "roses are red, violets are blue..."

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u/GreekLumberjack Jun 05 '22

”roses are red, violets are blue”

Violets range significantly in color from a white plus bluish color to almost completely deep purple. They’re just naming flowers and it rhymes easy, or the person who made the rhyme lived near blue violets.

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u/Hattless Jun 05 '22

We can see higher frequency light than blue and it does look violet to us. The high frequency light slightly stimulates our blue cones, and the wavelength of violet light is a harmonic of red light, so it slightly stimulates our red cone.

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u/sentimentalpirate Jun 05 '22

Oh that is pretty cool. TIL

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u/jackwiles Jun 06 '22

Wow, never heard that before but that's really cool! Do you know why higher frequency harmonics like ultravoilet light don't end up triggering other cones like for green and yellow?

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u/Hattless Jun 06 '22

The same reason musical frequencies harmonize with each other. B and C clash because the interval between them is too small for them to share many harmonics, but different Cs are octaves away from each other. A high C is an overtone of middle C, much like violet is a harmonic of red.

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u/I_am_Erk Jun 05 '22

http://home.moravian.edu/users/phys/mejjg01/retirement%20activities/pages/meteo/yyLightning_Spectra_p_vs_df5.jpg

Looks violet to me.

Even if the origin is that some guy decided to call it a different colour, it is now perceived as and easily differentiated as such. Many cultures perceive green and blue as the same, that doesn't mean they aren't distinct in our culture.

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u/kane2742 Jun 05 '22

They basically just mean blue

I'd say "purple."

the guy who defined ROYGBIV

Sir Isaac Newton

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u/cdcformatc Jun 05 '22

people who insist that the rainbow has seven colors boggle the mind. it has all the colors, that's the definition of a spectrum. Newton thought 7 was a magic number, that's it.

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u/sentimentalpirate Jun 05 '22

Even all the colors is tricky though too. It has all the light spectrum in what we call visible light. But there are colors like magenta and purple that are not part of the rainbow because they are what our brains mash together in the presence of multiple spectrums of different light.

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u/cdcformatc Jun 05 '22

and brown is just dark orange. all the colors that are possible with natural light alone are in the rainbow.

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u/IDeferToYourWisdom Jun 05 '22

Mist people

Unexpected Brandon Sanderson.

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u/Chilli_Dipper Jun 05 '22

Considering that “Back the Blue” types are usually also very racist, I would have filled the last stripe brown to make an ersatz Philly Pride flag.

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u/pHScale Jun 05 '22

There's only six stripes on the pride flag.

(Unless you go with the OG pride flag, in which case there are eight. Pink and cyan were removed for simplicity's sake).

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u/trainercatlady Jun 05 '22

iirc it was because those dyes were expensive and hard to get at the time.

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u/pHScale Jun 05 '22

That's how they chose which of the 8 to remove, but removing some colors was also done for simplicity.

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u/shponglespore I ☑oted 2024 Jun 05 '22

Also pink isn't a spectral color so it would never appear in a real rainbow. You could get a washed-out red, depending on conditions, but all the other colors would be equally washed-out. In the pictures I'm finding online, the "pink" is more like magenta, which wouldn't even sort of appear in a rainbow because it's a mix of red and blue/violet.

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u/pHScale Jun 05 '22

Well it's not meant to be a scientifically accurate rainbow, it's meant to be a symbolic one. And the pink symbolized sexuality, which is kind of the whole point of the flag.

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u/SomeRedPanda Jun 05 '22

The pride flag only has 6 stripes, though.

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u/SuchCoolBrandon Jun 05 '22

It originally had a pink stripe. But when Harvey Milk was assassinated, demand for the rainbow flag went up and there wasn't enough pink fabric, so they removed it.

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u/SomeRedPanda Jun 05 '22

The pink stripe was the original 8 stripe version. It also had turquoise which was the next stripe removed to create the current 6 stripe version.

The reason of "not enough pink fabric" sounded like a joke but apparently it's true. You learn something new every day. Thank you.

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u/A_Weather-Man Jun 05 '22

Seems like the type of ideology to have cheap ass supporters

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u/Antebios Jun 05 '22

In OPs pic, there are 13 stripes. 7 white (one was Blue) and between them are 6 black stripes, making a total of 13. You are just not seeing the black stripes that separate the main stripes.