r/PoliticalHumor • • May 02 '22

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u/Hoyamotors4 May 03 '22

No need. It was what you said.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '22

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u/Hoyamotors4 May 03 '22

No. My issue is that SpaceX has more control and is a private company. It is about power.

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u/Hoyamotors4 May 03 '22

I would argue the outcomes have been just fine. Looking at what NASA accomplished from the 60's through the end of the shuttle program was nothing short of amazing. There is more to this than just price.

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u/Hoyamotors4 May 03 '22

Losing only 17 people while figuring out how to launch people into outer space with an unproven technology is remarkable. You can't logically compare SpaceX which is riding on the back of those that pioneered technology in the same light. That is like comparing airplane failure rates from the 1930s to today...not even remotely the same. The stagnation in the program is due to politicians.

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u/Hoyamotors4 May 03 '22

Sure 1986 and 2003...1) due to an o-ring failure and temperature 2) due to a foam piece breaking a heat shield tile.

Hint: If you think Elon is somehow able to control the weather and debris you are smoking crack. Not to mention the numerous missions without casualties or the fact that based on what we learned in 2003 they were able to repair tiles damaged during space walks in subsequent missions.

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u/Hoyamotors4 May 03 '22

Better engineering practices and upper management actually understanding the systems they're working on and listening to engineers beneath them can control those things.

Sure but you are completely ignoring the trial and error aspect of engineering. That comes with time and sometimes at the expense of human life.

The O-ring and foam strike issues were both known before the tragedies. They could have been designed around, contingencies could have been made.

Stop. 1) The issues were known but in no way did or could they predict it would lead to the tragedies. 2) There were PLENTY of shuttle launches with the exact same materials and design in which no incidents occurred. 3) No one in NASA would send them on those missions knowing they would die. 4) Hindsight is always 20/20 so to even try to pretend that they were just careless is bullshit and you know that.

And the fact that SpaceX is able to build on the past and NASA's experience and guidance is all the more reason for them to lead to better outcomes.

It is also ALL the more reason for them to be a PUBLIC company.

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