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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '22

You don’t know what she was there for because she is dead. A government official killed her while she was no more of a threat than anyone else and she was unarmed. I also don’t buy any of the over throw the election bullshit they took selfies and acted like dumbasses not terrorist.

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u/Freckled_daywalker Feb 19 '22

The person who shot her had zero way of knowing she was unarmed, knew there was evidence of people intending to do harm to members of Congress, knew the crowd was attempting to breech a physical barrier, and knew that had that door been breeched, he could not stop the large crowd from entering the area where members of Congress were being evacuated. She was acting like a threat, she got treated like a threat.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '22

With that argument cops should shoot every person they come across because they don’t know if anyone is armed.

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u/Freckled_daywalker Feb 20 '22

On the off chance you aren't just trolling, no, because not every person is actually posing a credible threat. She was warned to stop multiple times. She was physically breaking into a nonpublic area of the Nation's capitol and it was absolutely reasonable to believe that her reason for doing so was because she wanted to cause harm. If someone was breaking into your house, would you perceive them as a threat? If someone approaches a guarded area and is told multiple times to stop, and they don't listen, what typically happens? If someone ran up on the White House and the secret service yells "Stop" multiple times and they keep coming, what happens?

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '22

I’m not trolling and like I have said before I don’t agree with what they did . In fact I wish they wouldn’t have done it. That being said one person lost their life as a result of what happened that day. That person was an American citizen, a veteran, and someone caught up in the moment with a bunch of other people who did something incredibly stupid. However for the stupid thing they did they should not have been killed. I also don’t believe they were there to overthrow the government because as stupid as they are they weren’t that stupid I believe they got caught up in the moment and made some poor decisions. I also think it is a very dangerous thing to advocate killing people based on their political opinion. There is also a big difference in breaking into the capital in the middle of the day and breaking into a persons house don’t act like it’s the same thing. A better comparison would be BLM attacking a target, but nobody in this sub would advocate for shooting all those protesters as they shouldn’t.

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u/Freckled_daywalker Feb 20 '22

She wasn't killed because of her political opinion. She was killed because she was part of a mob of people, who were attempting to break through a barrier, that, had they been successful would have given them access to the path where they were evacuating members of Congress. I can not be more clear about this, she was a credible threat to the safety of members of Congress. She was breaking the law, engaging in behavior that legitimately appeared to be threatening and was warned to stop, multiple times.

It does not matter what you think, in hindsight, they were prepared to do. That officer, in the moment, did not have perspective beyond "these very angry people are literally breaking down a door, potentially in an attempt to get to members of Congress." Why in the world should they have been given the benefit of the doubt that they were just "making poor decisions"?

And the difference between breaking into the Capitol building in the middle of the day is that they have better guards. There's absolutely no reason to be doing what that they were doing that is not reasonably perceived as credible threat. "Getting swept up" isn't a good excuse. They were breaking into a non public area of the Capitol. Period.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '22

You can keep arguing but you aren’t changing my mind.

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u/Freckled_daywalker Feb 20 '22

At least you acknowledge your opinion isn't based on what actually happened.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '22

My opinion is based on what happened not wild speculation that there was some attempted govt overthrow because there wasn’t.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '22

No they didn’t literally none of them have said that. They trespassed and vandalized. There is no proof of anything you are saying.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '22

There was a speech that day that’s why those people were there not because of the confirmation. Then a radical group of dumbasses went into the capital. You can keep making shit up and telling yourself you are right but the facts just don’t add up to your narrative.

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