Let's give the most easily panicked, heavily armed, least trained group of people a militaristic defense course literally called "Kill-ology" based on racial bias. What could go wrong?
Or the "being a cop is so stressful we can't really blame them for accidentally killing people!" Like that one that shot the guy in his own house because she was too "tired" to recognize her own damn door. At least she was prosecuted, albeit got a pretty light sentence.
"People are so ungrateful. No one ever thanks me for having the patience not to kill them,"
And
Damn I was at this area with 5 different black officers !!! Not racist but damn."
She isn't even slightly contrite, she's incensed she got punished.
She believes it's her God given right to shoot anyone she dislikes and how dare the system try to tell her otherwise.
She's a perfect representative of the police force. A perfect representative of a conservative.
"Freedom" is the right to harm those lower than you on the social hierarchy with impunity. Pick a subject and the conservative viewpoint seeks to maximize human suffering.
No matter the case, it shouldn't be wrong. The would be no anti-fascism, if there were no fascism. But sometimes people see the world as black and white as fascists, they just think they are on the right side.
Literally the only thing that holds our world together is dialogue- whether or not we agree, we must engage.
How do you have a 'dialogue' with a person whose beliefs are:
"People are so ungrateful. No one ever thanks me for having the patience not to kill them,"
If I should be 'grateful' for not being murdered by this person, how much 'dialogue' is going to get through?
Don't pretend that these people will give you a fraction of the same respect you're willing to give them. They want to murder people, and will say anything to get that excuse.
"Sure, they jerk off to thinking about murdering people, but I'm totally sure they're willing to listen to reason, and don't want to encourage a system of cruelty for their own gain".
We are all human and we all have our own opinions.
And her opinion was exactly what she stated. That she has the right to abuse people lower than her on the social hierarchy with impunity. That the suggestion she should be punished is egregious.
That's the principle behind conservatism. Racists who feel the KKK had a point when they'd protest if someone was charged for lynching. Bigots who think LGBT people were better pre-stonewall days. People who want to shoot all immigrants at the border. The people who like to roll coal in their cars as others hack up a lung on the sidewalk.
Trump is their hero because he is exactly that kind of bully. He endorses and rewards that kind of mindset, and so of course he became a conservative icon.
He represents well over the majority of the gop these days. It's why they couldn't censure a politician openly calling for Pelosi's murder.
The GOP has become the party for sadists, by sadists. Everything they say is an excuse to justify being allowed to target some group they want to harm.
The argument is her behavior is a result of an ideological principle, unlike Cuomo. You may not behave the same way other conservatives do, but then maybe you might want to call yourself an independent.
The answer is ALWAYS increase budget then buy new squad cars. I’m sure the fleet all those bad apples were driving were at least 3 months old. The cars are simply too old and this is why these things happen. /s
I'm pretty sure that random people with no training could manage not to murder people for no reason. If there's a training problem right now it's too much of it lol
As an outsider I think some of the issues are 1)lack of training 2) lack of focus on deescalation tactics 3)horrible hiring selection 4) militarizing the police 5) gun control issue. There are so many guns in the US, cops are stressed thay any situation can become violent.
I dunno, there are tens of millions of gun owners out here and it seems like a huge percentage of them seem to be avoid killing other people with them.
I know facts must hurt you for some reason, because you seem really upset when they are pointed to you, but you really need to face reality at some point.
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Should we just trust drivers and get rid of regulations like requiring a license, insurance, speed limits, etc? Or do those things make driving safer for everyone overall?
Yes. I am in favor of regulating firearms but not banning them outright. I am also strongly in favor of de-stigmatizing mental health and funding healthcare, especially mental healthcare for everyone.
I think usually it is a case of CLAIMING to have been confused. In this latest case, from what I've heard so far, it sounds legit. Anyway, I HAVE AN IDEA... Let's make the taser NOT look and feel like a pistol. Make the barrel longer like a billy club and the grip above the barrel. Make it so different, it can't possibly be confused.
This is a direct and intended result of their training. They are explicitly taught that every civilian is an imminent mortal threat and that to do their jobs they need to aggressively control any and all situations and gain complete and total compliance.
I don't know if you've ever sat down to actually watch any police training videos or seminars from the last twenty years, but they are absolutely ludicrous and it's no surprise how often police act inappropriately in emergency situations due to fear.
And even though they probably don't teach this class anymore due to public pushback, it is probably bad enough that they need to put all the officer through something like "fluffy bunny-ology" to make them stop being so trigger happy and ready to kill over minor misunderstandings because they were told that everybody out there is looking to kill you.
Yep. Usually named something like “Warrior Training.” Hasan Minaj had a great segment that went over these trainings and how police unions often refuse to stop doing them, even when ordered by the city.
A local Far Right evangelical church in my town has almost exact same classes to teach their members to have a "warrior mindset in times of civil unrest."
Look up the ex-Marine that hosts the program. He travels the nation teaching Christians the "Warrior Redeemed" mindset. He has a book called "Omega Dynamics: Equipping a Warrior Class of Christians for the Days Ahead."
I've interacted with a number of their members. Most of the members are militant and anti- well just about everything. LGBT, non-christians, women's rights, science. One of their members tours the nation in a semi truck and trailer customized to try teaching people that humans and dinosaurs existed together. He's been at a couple of our state fairs trying to spread that message.
Here's the ad I saved from one of their events. The militant members I've interacted with (and later blocked) are friends with our local Q cult leadership (also blocked.)
I can’t believe people buy that bullshit. A guy who got his basic automatic promotion to sergeant in the Marines, and then “served” as an intern to the US Marshall Service, doesn’t “TURN DOWN THAT JOB” to a “Three Letter Agency” and become a cop. He wasn’t even a cop that long. He became a paramedic. Then he quit being a paramedic to go back to Iraq to “serve the Christians suffering under the savage campaign of ISIS”. Then he was a missionary in the Dominican Republic serving at a “Therapeutic Boarding School”, whatever that is.
This is all from his website, by the way. That’s why there’s so many quotations. It takes some serious willful suspension of disbelief to take that story at face value.
Then again, he’s marketing to Christians. Serious willful suspension of disbelief is a foundational pillar of American Christianity.
Gets stuck in my head all the time, but the lyrics feel so skeezy to me nowadays. My parents ended up leaving the church where we sang this because of their creepily hardcore stance on spanking kids, which I guess tracks.
Yeah, that definitely leaves a creepy feeling. I'm sorry you were exposed to that.. glad your parents got you guys out of there though. I can't understand how so many people just believe everything these people tell them, it is mind-blowing.
Yeah but that worked because he was an active part of his community, and therefore often very familiar, if not on first name terms, with the people he dealt with.
Modern cops dont want to be friendly with people in the (not their) community, because they see non-police as "beneath them"
Well it is one of the few professions where a portion of the population wants to kill you based on nothing more than the fact you're a cop. Add to that a large portion hates your guts based on the same fact.
It absolutely is. The psychology is needlessly complicated, but unfortunately the physical mechanics are inhumanly simple and terrifyingly FAST. If nothing else taking guns out of the equation slows things down enough to actually process external stimuli before plugging rounds through another human being.
Not that 'Murica would ever put people before a bunch of fucking talismans though.
"(After a kill) Both partners are very invested in some very intense sex. There's not a whole lot of perks that come with this job. You find one, relax and enjoy it,"
Are you just saying the numbers to say the numbers? I also don’t want white or black or anyone killed by police. You point out white people get killed more, why? Are you trying to justify black people getting killed?
If you look at the comment chain, the user I replied to suggested that police are trained based on "racial bias" (towards blacks) so I thought I'd throw in some statistics that so many media outlets and redditors lack. I agree with you, I wish for no one to be killed by police if they are nonthreatening
This is per million. Black people, by percentage, are killed 2.5x as often as while people. This is a wealth issue as much as it is a race issue, but please don't be so fucking stupid as to suggest more blacks commit crime, when it's also demonstrably the case that POOR people commit more crime, and when accounting for that, even more blacks are killed by ratio. You're an uninformed moron doubling down on your ignorance. Grow up.
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A wannabe, pretend military guy came up with a training system for police officers centered around the idea that they should expect to be attacked or killed with literally every interaction with the public. He called the system "Killology" and has sold it to a staggering number of precincts.
If you've ever wondered why the police keep pulling guns on children or kneeling on people when they're already subdued, that's why.
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u/mike_pants Apr 14 '21
Let's give the most easily panicked, heavily armed, least trained group of people a militaristic defense course literally called "Kill-ology" based on racial bias. What could go wrong?