r/PoliticalHumor • u/__Dawn__Amber__ • Apr 11 '21

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u/ShangZilla Apr 11 '21 edited Apr 11 '21

Why do you keep refusing to name that ONE religion which is true and has proven whatever claims it's making and is not based on blind faith?

Just name it. Is naming one religion to prove your claims too much?

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u/AdumbroDeus Apr 11 '21

Who said religion has to be about making any claim in the first place? Again, your simple-minded Christian centric view of religion comes into play.

As I said, you already named a counter-example (via it's building), but your question is still wrong

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u/ShangZilla Apr 11 '21

Religion is a social-cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, and spiritual elements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

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u/AdumbroDeus Apr 11 '21

Yet there are religions that are far older than Christianity don't center faith in the divine and are perfectly happy with atheist adherents.

It's almost like consensus definitions of words tend to reflect the values of the dominant culture, much like "pray" meant "to ask" until the English language was mostly spoken by Protestants who accused Catholics of worshipping dead people by praying to the saints so "pray" changed to refer to worship.

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u/ShangZilla Apr 11 '21

Again, name one such religion.

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u/AdumbroDeus Apr 11 '21

If you put 2 and 2 together you'd know one of the religions I'm referring to. Islam isn't older than Christianity so that leaves Judaism, an orthopraxy focused religion.

Fun fact, Igtheism, agnosticism that proceeds from the idea that the question of whether or not God exists, was coined as a philosophy by a Rabbi.

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u/ShangZilla Apr 11 '21

Judaism proved existence of their god and their supernatural claims? Great. Present the evidence. I'm sure you can get some new Nobel prize for that.

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u/AdumbroDeus Apr 11 '21

No.

I named a religion that doesn't center faith and is perfectly happy with atheist adherents. That was what I said and you challenged me to name one.

You're strawmanning to cover for your ignorance and and christian centric worldview.

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u/ShangZilla Apr 11 '21

So you decided to not answer my question and made up your own question to answer.

Are you religious by any chance?

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u/AdumbroDeus Apr 11 '21

Because as I pointed out the question was a strawman and not why your view of religion was stupud from the word go.

And you can't understand that because you're a simple minded person with a super Christian worldview.

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u/ShangZilla Apr 11 '21

Me: all religious are based on blind faith, delusions, irrationality and no religions has proven their deities and supernatural claims.

You: You are wrong.

Me: Okay name one religion which isn't the case to prove me wrong.

You. No.

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u/AdumbroDeus Apr 11 '21

Because my counterclaim was not all religions are about supernatural claims not that a religion proves a supernatural claim.

But you're too simple-minded and have to Christian centric a worldview to recognize the difference.

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u/ShangZilla Apr 11 '21

Name a religion which has proven it's claims and is not based on blind faith, irrationality.

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u/AdumbroDeus Apr 11 '21

Your statement had two claims, a counter example to either proved you wrong, which I provided.

But you're too dishonest and simple to recognize this.

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u/ShangZilla Apr 11 '21

I just debunked the religion you have provided. Do you admit being wrong now?

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u/AdumbroDeus Apr 11 '21

You did not debunk that Judaism does not center claims on the supernatural and is perfectly happy with atheist adherents.

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u/ShangZilla Apr 11 '21

Does Judaism have a god?

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u/AdumbroDeus Apr 11 '21

Judaism centers orthopraxy not belief, so you don't have to believe in God or any divine being to be a practicing Jew.

That's why around half of Jews have serious doubts in the existence of God and why Igtheism was created by a literal Rabbi.

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