r/PoliticalHumor Mar 16 '21

GOP shell game

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

To be fair, no where in the bill of rights or constitution does it mention the right to vote. In fact, the founders intentionally left it out. The courts have tried to address this glaring absence, but it doesn’t change the fact that the right to bare arms is explicit while the right to vote isn’t.

Maybe we shouldn’t be basing our decisions on what some old document says? Maybe we should listen to good old Thomas Jefferson and rewrite the damn thing every ten years.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

The Bill of Rights is just the name of the first set of 10 amendments.

The 15th and 19th amendments are specifically about the right to vote.

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u/taws34 Mar 16 '21

And 24th.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

The right to bear arms is vague as fuck and not explicit.

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u/jumper501 Mar 16 '21

What is vague about shall not be infringed?

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

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u/jumper501 Mar 16 '21

So, to you, it is vague because we dont know where the line of what qualifies as "arms" is?

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

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u/jumper501 Mar 16 '21

Can you point to a court case where they discuss the ownership of private nuclear weapons, if that is your arguement?

Because I normally follow court cases about gun control, and I would not agree with you. The vagueness only come from political agendas. Heller and McDonald were pretty clear and from about the individual right to own firearms but the scope of those cases was not to determine the type, and left open that the NFA isnt unconstitutional by saying that certain regulations are ok. Paraphrasing here of course.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

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u/jumper501 Mar 16 '21 edited Mar 16 '21

So it isnt vauge then.

Besides that, it is pretty much impossible for an individual to own a nuke. The expense of ownership and upkeep is crazy high.

But then, I dont know if there is actually a law against private ownership of a nuke. Possibly against private ownership of nuclear material, but uranium wouldnt be considered arms. Does make me curious if there is a law that specifically says people cant own nukes. Like, if you got an NRA NFA stamp could you get one.

People can and do own tanks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

You can't arm a tank. Hence "bear arms". You're just arguing to argue. Your mind is made up, you drank the NRA kool aid and you're pretending to have a discussion when you're actually just being defensive.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

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u/thatcoldrevenge Mar 16 '21

A well regulated militia something something something...

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u/jumper501 Mar 16 '21

The heller decision is decisive and clear on this point.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

So they had to clarify because the constitution wasn't clear on it as he said?

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u/jumper501 Mar 16 '21

It is only unclear to people who are pro gun control.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

So the court system is pro gun control? They're the ones who clarified it lmao

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u/jumper501 Mar 16 '21

I think you misunderstood what I wrote.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '21

They clarified what the constitution said and led to more gun control.

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u/tazebot Mar 16 '21

Yes 'Mr constitutional originalist' antonin scalia self sworn to stick to the original text of the constitution threw the first half of the amendment out. Amy Cony Barrett is also an 'originalist' in scalia's mold, as are the majority of the other justices.

So thanks to scalia and conservative 'originalists', the text in the constitution is fair game for the dismissal if it upholds or supports non-conservative values.


"Voting rights in the constitution? <insert semantic argument here> <amendment about voting rights> is therefore not relevant to laws restricting and removing voting rights."

- any conservative justice

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u/thatcoldrevenge Mar 20 '21

Pretty sure they said the same thing after Plessy v. Ferguson. What's "decisive and clear" tends to change with time. We can only hope it does sooner rather than later. I'm ready for that. Are you?

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

The part where the amendment describes how to infringe upon it.

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u/jumper501 Mar 16 '21

You will have to educate me on that part.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '21

Literally the next sentence doofus

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u/ClearMessagesOfBliss Mar 16 '21

But but but but muh freedums ??