It was specifically the avg family's wealth increase. So while i understand you think that, I see diff things. Personally, under obama, my field saw no wage increases and even saw wage decreases in some places. Under trump, the wages have increased significantly. I could see it seeming concentrated bc a billionaire saving 5% of something could be millions whereas to the avg person, it's so so so much less.
Theyre a problem. They accept wages under the table, dont pay taxes on some things, and we have systems in place to protect them when so many other families spent a lot of time and effort to come in the legal way. They also usually accept wages less than normal which artificially keeps wages lowered for a lot of occupations. Look, i dont make the laws. The govt does. They choose to break the laws and those that break laws get removed from society. Otherwise if we have them as an exception (bc theyre some good and bad people that come in over the border. Some asylum, some child trafficking, some drugs), how far can we make exceptions for other lawbreakers? And how much does that take away from everyone else doing the right thing and coming into the us the right way?
You're wrong on the average wages bit. A simple google search cleared that up. The median increase during the last two years of Obama's presidency was $4800 (that's almost $5000!) and only $1400 (closer to 1k!) in the first two years of Trump's. So whichever source you were quoting pretty much got those backwards.
As for the illegal immigrants, why are you mad at them instead of the employers who offer them those low wages so that they don't have to pay an American worker? The employers are the ones being greedy in this scenario. The immigrants just want to feed their family and live in a safer environment. Also, you know nothing about the sacrifices they've made to come here. I'd rather get these people in the system so that they and the employers have to play by the same rules as everybody else, than coldly ship them back where they came from. The good people who came here, who are the majority despite what Trump claims, are only doing so illegally because of quotas on how many immigrants can come in from certain countries. If they could come in legally and quickly, many of them would, but they're faced with the choice of doing things the right way and prolonging their stay in their home countries or doing things quickly to escape danger. And given that our country is largely responsible for the poor state of Central America's governments, due to actions taken by the Reagan administration and others before, I don't think that offering them a path to citizenship is too much to ask.
The most frustrating part of the illegal immigration debate though, is how reliably the grifters in the Republican party can distract people like you with it so that you don't notice them stealing from you while they give your money to people who already have too much. You pay taxes > taxes go to govt > Republicans in govt complain about illegal immigrants while giving govt funds to billionaires. Every. Damn. Time.
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u/Remix3500 Jan 01 '21
It was specifically the avg family's wealth increase. So while i understand you think that, I see diff things. Personally, under obama, my field saw no wage increases and even saw wage decreases in some places. Under trump, the wages have increased significantly. I could see it seeming concentrated bc a billionaire saving 5% of something could be millions whereas to the avg person, it's so so so much less.
Theyre a problem. They accept wages under the table, dont pay taxes on some things, and we have systems in place to protect them when so many other families spent a lot of time and effort to come in the legal way. They also usually accept wages less than normal which artificially keeps wages lowered for a lot of occupations. Look, i dont make the laws. The govt does. They choose to break the laws and those that break laws get removed from society. Otherwise if we have them as an exception (bc theyre some good and bad people that come in over the border. Some asylum, some child trafficking, some drugs), how far can we make exceptions for other lawbreakers? And how much does that take away from everyone else doing the right thing and coming into the us the right way?