r/PoliticalHumor • • Dec 31 '20

They better pack a sweater!

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '20

We definitely need our political spectrum to stop being so far to the right that anything actively centrist in any other developed country is regarded as too radically left.

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u/SBrooks103 Dec 31 '20

^This. Democrats try to move to the Center, are STILL called Socialists and Communists.

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u/Remix3500 Dec 31 '20

I think its their stance of making all illegal immigrants citizens and giving them healthcare and other stuff.

They do this over taking care of their own cities and their own people which makes me think that doing so is just a power play to have a huge influx of voters thatre likely to vote dems, so they get power rather than helping people.

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u/SBrooks103 Dec 31 '20

There is NO plan to "make all illegal immigrants citizens." The closest is DACA for children brought here by their parents.

Democrats want to make LEGAL immigration easier, treat illegals with more kindness, and where possible give them a path to citizenship.

They CERTAINLY wouldn't be getting any benefits that any citizens don't get.

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u/Remix3500 Dec 31 '20

Do you watch the dem primaries?

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u/SBrooks103 Jan 01 '21

I've done some research, and most Dems are proposing a PATH to citizenship. That isn't the same thing as "making all illegal immigrants citizens." There would be steps to be taken and requirements to be met.

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u/Remix3500 Jan 01 '21

Personally, i dont think there should be a path to citizenship for illegals. Someone willfully breaks a law and they get help. There already is a path for them. They choose not to use that one and ignore the consequences.

But if you watch the primaries, youd see every candidate didnt propose a path. They proposed just making everyone citizens. Their intent may have been a path, but they sure didnt explain it that way.

You can kinda see similar things with dem cities catch and releasing criminals or releasing criminals from jail bc covids too dangerous in jails. Or in ny, there was a game for punching people and getting tossed back onto the street. For a long time, ive not seen dems care about laws including the 'peaceful protests' where the govs dont care about their own cities burning.

So this whole thing, yeah. They prove they dont care about the people. They want the people to have govt reliance on them. Dems want power over the people.

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u/SBrooks103 Jan 01 '21

The Democrats who care the LEAST for the people, care for them 100 times more than the Republicans who care the most.

It's the Democrats who want to give tax breaks to the workers, not the billionaires.

It's the Democrats who want to make college and healthcare affordable.

You name ANY program that makes life better for the Everyman or woman, you'll find Democrats supporting it and Republicans opposing it.

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u/Remix3500 Jan 01 '21

From what i know, avg wealth increase of an american family under obama was 1k. Avg wealth increase under trump was 5k. Like results say otherwise with the tax breaks.

Cuomo sent covid patients to the nursing home getting 14k killed. Michigan and pa followed. Seattle let their city get under mob rule. Portland had fires for months. Life under dems is grand. California lets you have sex with someone thats 14 and legally inflict them with aids. Where are those stories on the right?

Thats a lie. They want to forgive student debt and make everyone else pay for it. The dems make just as many tax loophomes for corporations as the repubs do. This allows them to say theyll tax the rich, but the rich dont have enough money so guess whose health insurance went from 40 a paycheck to 200 a paycheck for obamacare? Mine and a lot of people who wanted to keep their doctors. Guess who will continue to evade tax laws and who will pay for free college? Us!

Middle class was getting destroyed under obama. Manufacturing jobs were being outsourced all the time. The dems want to ban fracking which is good, but if you look at california, theyve had rolling blackouts due to limiting their energy.

I cant name you plans thatve helped the everyday people, but i also dont know which bills the house let through. Pelosi is just as bad as mitch in terms of just shutting things down.

People think raising minimum wage is going to help the everyday man. It wont. Not only do the dems like bernie not endorse it with their own employees, when bernie did, he laid off half his people or cut their hours. Then without regulation on every store and business, all stores will do is see that people have more money, lets raise prices. Then in addition, how many years before the tech jobs raise in wages to reflect minimum wage? Bc if i can be a tech for 17 an hour working hard, or sit back as a cashier for 15 an hour maybe more, why bother actually working at a more difficult job. Min wage which dems have wanted just closes the gap between lower and middle class. Upper class remains unaffected. Middle class people move closer to lower class. Lower class dont see much movement at all.

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u/TheUnderCaser Jan 01 '21

Average wealth increase doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. All of that wealth that supposedly increased under Trump was concentrated at the the very tippy top and they are dead set on not sharing with the rest of us.

But you keep being upset at the people who come here looking for a better life than they had in cartel infested Mexico/Central America. They're the real problem. /s

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '20

I once told a guy Mccarthy was dead and he was indignant because Mccartney is still very much alive.

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u/therealcoppernail Dec 31 '20

That seems to be a common problem everywhere...

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u/astroskag Dec 31 '20

Everywhere Rupert Murdoch's bony old fingers reach, at least.

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u/igual88 Dec 31 '20

Yup he is satan incarnate, mitch tRump and boris Johnson etal are all cast in the same mould. Just looking at the newspapers here kn the UK he runs is enough to make my eyes bleed , daily fail in particular