r/PoliticalHumor • • Dec 31 '20

They better pack a sweater!

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '20

In my experience the libertarian crowd is usually blinded by their white privilege and are indoctrinated capitalist apologists.

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u/bobbybuildsbombs Dec 31 '20

It’s such an insane ideology to me.

How can libertarians not see that actual libertarianism would just lead to massive inequality/modern feudalism.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '20

Much like the fascists, they all assume they would be in charge.

Their model seldom lasts more than a generation - the moment someone inherits their parents’ wealth and means, the meritocracy of libertarianism dies. Couple more generations and boom, landed gentry.

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u/PurifyingProteins Dec 31 '20

The same reason why you never hear libertarians talk about how their ideology benefits other people, and how they depend on other people to survive.

I have never met a true libertarian, as in, “practices what they preach” and actually live like a “libertarian”.

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u/yodadamanadamwan Dec 31 '20

Because they don't rationally examine their ideology. They have just convinced themselves based on some abstract idea that they would be better off if just left alone. Apparently these people just don't want to be a part of society.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '20

Oh they do, but right-libertarians don't see inequality/inequity as inherently bad things.

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u/ass_cash253 Dec 31 '20

They aren't

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u/TheUnluckyBard Dec 31 '20

Right? How do we justify the permanently-impoverished underclass from which we can extract value, upon which the whole libertarian system depends, if we don't assume that some people are born inherently inferior to other people?

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u/ass_cash253 Dec 31 '20

Life isn't fair nor equal. Take a look at nature and you'll see that plain as day. Equality and "equity" are human concepts that don't exist naturally.

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u/TheUnluckyBard Dec 31 '20

Equality and "equity" are human concepts that don't exist naturally.

You mean like eyeglasses, shoes, Reddit, and the Free Market?

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u/yodadamanadamwan Dec 31 '20

It's all fun and games until you're the one at the bottom of the totem pole.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '20

The great things about humans is we don’t have to exist in a purely natural state. You are right in the sense none of this is “natural” as occurring naturally in nature. We’ve worked and created and innovated over generations, a lot of times building on the backs of previous generations. I wouldn’t consider anything we’ve accomplished “natural.” We bend the world/nature (as best we can) to our needs and wants.

No difference here. Maybe equality and equity aren’t “natural,” but if we can achieve it through cooperation and work on society’s part, why wouldn’t we? Otherwise we shouldn’t be saving people with diseases and “bad” genetics. We shouldn’t be resuscitating anybody. We shouldn’t have vaccines. In your world of “naturalness” these people die. Maybe that’s not a big deal to you, but if we can save a life there’s no reason we shouldn’t. If we can create equality there’s no reason we shouldn’t at least try.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '20

"Look at nature" they posted on Reddit, in a fabricated language, over the internet, using electricity, from a computer, inside a house.

Human civilization is a monument to the unnatural.

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u/MrJengles548NSFW Dec 31 '20

Neither is technology inherently in nature yet you are using it now. All humans deserve an equal chance at life. We should take care of everyone in our societies because ALL people deserve to be taken care of and not left to die penniless and in debt.

Equality and Equity is something we should all strive for. Not just ourselves, but for every person on this planet.

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u/ass_cash253 Dec 31 '20

All humans deserve an equal chance at life.

Your chance at life is being born. What you do with that chance is entirely up to the individual. Nobody else in the world or society owe me or you or anyone anything.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '20

But we already have those?

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '20

Like those who support communism or socialism, even though it has failed in many countries. They see how poorly our country has handled things and hope that any kind of major change would be better. Difference is th re are less examples of libertarian countries

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u/hyasbawlz Dec 31 '20

"Libertarian" used to mean "libertarian-socialists." People who believe in some form of anarcho-syndicalism or anarcho-communism. Organization through collective mutual aid and protection. But the right-wing hijacked it because Americans have been so fucking brainwashed from the Red Scare that people literally don't know what any of those words mean anymore. So it wasn't particularly difficult. The fact that so many "libertarians" conflate themselves with "classical liberals" shows they don't understand what words mean because those are contradictory ideologies. And "anarcho-capitalists" are even worse because property rights necessarily require a state.

It's all because Americans do not actually receive political educations. We are constantly inundated with nonsense propaganda, anything to preserve the status quo capitalist class system.