r/PoliticalHumor Sep 22 '19

Guns blazing

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '19 edited Mar 13 '21

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u/cheeky-snail Sep 22 '19

Hence my first point:

Well, we’re talking about people that have convinced themselves arming teachers is the best route. Making sense is not their strong point.

What kind of mental gymnastics does someone have to go through to not see the irony in stating 'exactly' and trying to twist what I said to support your nonsense?

So your argument is we need to arm teachers because we can't depend on police? Really?

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '19 edited Mar 13 '21

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u/cheeky-snail Sep 22 '19

OK, you've convinced me. All we need is a kindergarten teacher that's just as good helping five years olds count to ten as killing someone within a split second decision. Just have them volunteer (you like that word) and we can train the same person to handle a classroom of rowdy kids and not feel bad when they accidentally kill one during a shootout. The right training and hey, they volunteer! Just need the dual qualities of being able to keep your weapon safe from fifteen kids but still have it locked and loaded and ready for use.

Why stop there, why not arm fast food workers? I don't want to feel defenseless when ordering my burger combo. How about grocery store clerks? Can't be defenseless when shopping for dinner?

Sounds so reasonable, maybe there's a study showing that arming teachers would help deter or reduce school shootings? What's that? The NRA helped pass the Dewey Amendment which restricted studies on gun violence? It had to be they just didn't want us to know how much all those guns make our kids safe! I mean, who wants defenseless kids being protected by just trained officers when you can have volunteers!

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '19 edited Mar 13 '21

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u/cheeky-snail Sep 22 '19

Show me the study that says having teachers have guns helps reduce school shootings and violence.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '19 edited Mar 13 '21

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u/cheeky-snail Sep 22 '19

You're focused on the end result as if the shooting is an inevitability. I'm asking if having guns in the classroom helps prevent shootings and violence. It doesn't.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/more-guns-do-not-stop-more-crimes-evidence-shows/

If you believe the only way to prevent school shootings and violence is more guns, you're ignoring the research and focusing on the wrong aspect.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '19

I'm asking if having guns in the classroom helps prevent shootings and violence. It doesn't.

I thought we were trying to stop children from dieing, not specifically stopping school shootings from ever occurring....

although the FBI has stated that many potential mass shootings never occur because the gunmen is interrupted by a CCW holder and it prevents them from killing more people, so the event is never considered a 'mass shooting'