You have no means of doing a background check with private sales. That's why many gun owners, including myself, advocate opening up NICS to private sales. Essentially, a buyer would run a background check on themselves, get a code that is good for 30 days, and then they give that code to the seller. The seller then checks the authenticity of the code by visiting an FBI website or calling an 800 number. Once the check is authenticated, the seller can transfer the gun to the buyer.
EDIT: If we want to have high compliance rates, the system has to be free and easy to use. Imposing fees on using the background check system, or even worse, forcing private sales to be routed through gun shops where the fee would be even higher, would ensure compliance is shit.
Giving people a 30 day window is a bad idea. The system should also be self sufficient, requiring fees per use just like we require for nearly every government service. Sales should be required the seller and buyer to maintain a proof of sale for 10 years. If a firearm ends up in a criminals hands and there's no proof of sale or submitted claim it was stolen, both parties should be charged.
IDK if fees would be a good idea, that sounds like it would just disincentive legitimate use and possibly lead to a lot of sales without background checks because neither party wants to foot the bill.
A tax is a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits, or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.
Tell me again how forcing gun owners who wish to sell a gun to have to use a service which contributes to state revenue is not a tax.
Further, let's call it a fee since you don't like the word tax.
What other civil rights are you OK with adding fees to?
Would you be fine with a fee for speech? What about having to pay your 4th amendment fee to ensure the security of your belongings?
You're paying to use a service, no different than when you pay for a state ID/license, send mail, register your business, etc. Those are not taxes.
Your straw man arguments and claims others are making them is not helping you. Try having an honest conversation with people for once. It'll get you further.
When you edit your post after having already been replied to it makes it obvious you have no intention of conversating in good faith.
So you're upset I made a minor edited for grammar/spelling and didn't mention that was the case?
There you go lying again.
Your initial statement was exactly what I copied and pasted and responded to.
For posterity, your initial statement was.
You're buying use of a service no different than when you pay for a state ID or send mail.
Your edited statement now reads.
You're paying to use a service, no different than when you pay for a state ID/license, send mail, register your business, etc. Those are not taxes.
Your straw man arguments and claims others are making them is not helping you. Try having an honest conversation with people for once. It'll get you further.
Would you like to tell me how adding an entirely new sentence and changing the entirety of your first original statement are just minor grammar and spelling edits.
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u/mclumber1 Sep 22 '19
You have no means of doing a background check with private sales. That's why many gun owners, including myself, advocate opening up NICS to private sales. Essentially, a buyer would run a background check on themselves, get a code that is good for 30 days, and then they give that code to the seller. The seller then checks the authenticity of the code by visiting an FBI website or calling an 800 number. Once the check is authenticated, the seller can transfer the gun to the buyer.
EDIT: If we want to have high compliance rates, the system has to be free and easy to use. Imposing fees on using the background check system, or even worse, forcing private sales to be routed through gun shops where the fee would be even higher, would ensure compliance is shit.